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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post

    Then why did Goldsmiths put the prices on the window display (rather than the ‘usual’ ‘For Exhibition only’ signs)?
    To get people through the door.

    Firstly, a year ago every Rolex that came into stock had a buyer, even unpopular models were sold instantly with little effort as buyers knew they could offload to a grey dealer for a profit. That's now changed, grey dealers are paying around list, or a little over for most models, and below list for two-tone and gold pieces. So the ADs now have to work a little harder to sell those two-tone DJs, and Airkings.

    Secondly, Goldsmiths still want to sell jewellery and other watches so getting people in store who enquire about a new Submariner, may be told that they'll have a good chance of getting one shortly if they were to buy a pair of diamond earrings or Cartier watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    To get people through the door.

    Firstly, a year ago every Rolex that came into stock had a buyer, even unpopular models were sold instantly with little effort as buyers knew they could offload to a grey dealer for a profit. That's now changed, grey dealers are paying around list, or a little over for most models, and below list for two-tone and gold pieces. So the ADs now have to work a little harder to sell those two-tone DJs, and Airkings.

    Secondly, Goldsmiths still want to sell jewellery and other watches so getting people in store who enquire about a new Submariner, may be told that they'll have a good chance of getting one shortly if they were to buy a pair of diamond earrings or Cartier watch.
    Michael Spiers and Pragnells follow the same pattern.

    A few months ago, I asked a SA at Exeter Michael Spiers, if they were FS as they had a price with them.
    "No, he replied, a policy they now follow"
    he invited me to come inside, but I politely declined!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    To get people through the door.

    Firstly, a year ago every Rolex that came into stock had a buyer, even unpopular models were sold instantly with little effort as buyers knew they could offload to a grey dealer for a profit. That's now changed, grey dealers are paying around list, or a little over for most models, and below list for two-tone and gold pieces. So the ADs now have to work a little harder to sell those two-tone DJs, and Airkings.

    Secondly, Goldsmiths still want to sell jewellery and other watches so getting people in store who enquire about a new Submariner, may be told that they'll have a good chance of getting one shortly if they were to buy a pair of diamond earrings or Cartier watch.

    You are ignoring the other sign that Goldsmiths had in the same window on the same day:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat30093 View Post
    Michael Spiers and Pragnells follow the same pattern.

    A few months ago, I asked a SA at Exeter Michael Spiers, if they were FS as they had a price with them.
    "No, he replied, a policy they now follow"
    he invited me to come inside, but I politely declined!
    To come inside for what, exactly? It's been said a million times, but beyond ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    To come inside for what, exactly? It's been said a million times, but beyond ridiculous!
    Come inside to be shown a two tone datejust with diamond dial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairn1980 View Post
    Come inside to be shown a two tone datejust with diamond dial.
    Or a white gold 1908


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairn1980 View Post
    Come inside to be shown a two tone datejust with diamond dial.
    First Rolex I bought was a TT Datejust 41. No value to the flippers obviously, but a great watch.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    Or a white gold 1908


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    Eh? It’s a beautiful watch. I’m waiting for my Platinum one.

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    Rolex T2 Heathrow

    Called into the Rolex Boutique (hut size) early this morning and caught them just as they opened. There were quite a few pieces dotted around the windows, with none of the usual "exhibition only" signs displayed

    Had my eye on their Green Oyster Perpetual and was rubbing my hands as I walked in only to be told "sorry not for sale" :) Oh well, joyous albeit only for a minute

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    Exhibition only signs in evidence at Goldsmiths Meadowhall. Spent a pleasant 45 minutes chewing the fat, drinking their coffee and looking at Sports watches that I cannot buy.





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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    Exhibition only signs in evidence at Goldsmiths Meadowhall. Spent a pleasant 45 minutes chewing the fat, drinking their coffee and looking at Sports watches that I cannot buy.





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    I got a Batman from G/smiths Meadowhall at the latter end of last year after about a 2 year wait so it does happen.

    What are you after?

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    ND Sub. 18 months on the list now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    ND Sub. 18 months on the list now.


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    I would have thought you would get one soon-Im surprised you have waited this long TBH. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaplad View Post
    I would have thought you would get one soon-Im surprised you have waited this long TBH. Good luck.
    You and me both mate. Bit galling when you read other folks get one in a couple of months.

    Browns in town told me the list is suspended. It’s been that way for three years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    You and me both mate. Bit galling when you read other folks get one in a couple of months.

    Browns in town told me the list is suspended. It’s been that way for three years.


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    Ive sent you a PM fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    ND Sub. 18 months on the list now.


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    Might happen sooner if you stopped calling it ND Sub.
    Just kiddin:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Might happen sooner if you stopped calling it ND Sub.
    Just kiddin:-)
    I shall modify my vocabulary


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    Loads on the India in the bull ring too, nowt interesting for sale though

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    This is available to buy in our local AD. Thankfully a little above my spend zone!!






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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Thankfully a little above my spend zone!!
    And a lot below my taste zone. I find it a little vulgar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    And a lot below my taste zone. I find it a little vulgar.
    Like Katie Price was a designer at Invicta ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    This is available to buy in our local AD. Thankfully a little above my spend zone!!

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    Han from Enter The Dragon moonlighting at the Rolex AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    This is available to buy in our local AD. Thankfully a little above my spend zone!!





    My AD has one in the window. £50k. I can only imagine how heavy that thing is

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    Quote Originally Posted by awright101 View Post
    My AD has one in the window. £50k. I can only imagine how heavy that thing is
    I can imagine amount of money you will lose the second you walk out the shop


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    Quote Originally Posted by awright101 View Post
    My AD has one in the window. £50k. I can only imagine how heavy that thing is
    It was like having a small brick on the wrist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by awright101 View Post
    My AD has one in the window. £50k. I can only imagine how heavy that thing is
    Only 320 gm

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    Got the call today for an Explorer II Polar Dial.

    Not 100% certain it’s for me at this point. If I don’t want it; does anyone want me to pick it up on their behalf?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    Got the call today for an Explorer II Polar Dial.

    Not 100% certain it’s for me at this point. If I don’t want it; does anyone want me to pick it up on their behalf?


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    Did you wait long for it?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Did you wait long for it?
    Weeks rather than months


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    This is available to buy in our local AD. Thankfully a little above my spend zone!!





    I’d don’t mind admitting that if I could I would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    Weeks rather than months


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    Why the sudden change of mind? Did you find something else?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Plenty of new watches on display at Bangkok International Airport but zero for sale.

    Asked about the 2 I’d buy on the spot if available but the SA said they cannot/will not sell.

    I get it in an AD, but in an airport concession WTAF is the point if there’s nothing for sale whatsoever. It’s a purely transactional outlet in an airport but serves as a brand museum in this case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth-W View Post
    Plenty of new watches on display at Bangkok International Airport but zero for sale.

    Asked about the 2 I’d buy on the spot if available but the SA said they cannot/will not sell.

    I get it in an AD, but in an airport concession WTAF is the point if there’s nothing for sale whatsoever. It’s a purely transactional outlet in an airport but serves as a brand museum in this case
    Quite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyp1973 View Post
    I’d don’t mind admitting that if I could I would.


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    The Nigella Lawson.

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    Quite a few for sale in PT AD. Mostly all gold (silver, rose, yellow) and a variety of DJ with diamond indices etc. Bi-metal as well. Didn't see anything in steel for sale except for an AirKing.

    I was reading their new (temporary) manufacturing facilities go online this year, 2025, which build started in 2023 https://hypebeast.com/2023/3/rolex-s...factories-info, but I am sure Rolex will not flood the market?
    “ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG

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    The unified Rolex in the window thread

    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Why the sudden change of mind? Did you find something else?
    Not exactly. I wanted a GMT as I do actually travel abroad a fair bit. I asked about the Explorer II as a second choice. I’ve yet to see a Polar in the flesh and, of course, it’s 42mm not 40mm. So I may not want it when I get there.


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    In Copenhagen and some nice watch shops ,Rolex only show no buy , plenty of used but quite steep

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    Not exactly. I wanted a GMT as I do actually travel abroad a fair bit. I asked about the Explorer II as a second choice. I’ve yet to see a Polar in the flesh and, of course, it’s 42mm not 40mm. So I may not want it when I get there.


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    GMT's probably aren't too hard to get, unless it's the Batman or Pepsi I suppose. I had to wait 2 years for a Batman.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    GMT's probably aren't too hard to get, unless it's the Batman or Pepsi I suppose. I had to wait 2 years for a Batman.
    The AD, where I have some spend history, told me their GMT list is suspended on stainless models and it’s been that way since 2020. The other (WoS group dealer) I’ve been on their list more than a year now with no positive signs


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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    The AD, where I have some spend history, told me their GMT list is suspended on stainless models and it’s been that way since 2020. The other (WoS group dealer) I’ve been on their list more than a year now with no positive signs


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    Oldoak may be referring to two tone or gold GMTs, which are not difficult to get hold of, at all.

    All iterations of the steel GMT are not easy to get hold of, even when you are on the mythical list. Your local AD may well be Meadowhall (which is one of the larger ADs across the country and probably gets more GMTs than most).

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    Had a chat with my usual AD about the availability of the Daytona that ive been waiting for for around 10 months. Basically is there any chance of anything in the next few months.
    The answer was the usual " you never know as things can change " type reply which was fair enough but they did offer me the 126619lb blue sub but at £40k a bit out of my price bracket .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ptjoe View Post
    They did offer me the 126619lb blue sub but at £40k a bit out of my price bracket .
    There are lots on Chrono24 for between £25K and £30K, so people must be taking a proper bath on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ptjoe View Post
    Had a chat with my usual AD about the availability of the Daytona that ive been waiting for for around 10 months. Basically is there any chance of anything in the next few months.
    The answer was the usual " you never know as things can change " type reply which was fair enough but they did offer me the 126619lb blue sub but at £40k a bit out of my price bracket .
    Which Daytona model have you been waiting for 10 months for?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Which Daytona model have you been waiting for 10 months for?
    Just the basic steel model in either black or white.

    I dont expect anything for a while even with an ok history and a market downturn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ptjoe View Post
    Just the basic steel model in either black or white.

    I dont expect anything for a while even with an ok history and a market downturn.
    I think you may be right about that.

    Did they perhaps give you any indication of waiting times?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ptjoe View Post
    ................. but they did offer me the 126619lb blue sub but at £40k a bit out of my price bracket .
    Well at least they have a sense of humour.
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 10th February 2025 at 16:06.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    I think you may be right about that.

    Did they perhaps give you any indication of waiting times?



    Well at least they have a sense of humour.
    It's a relationship builder that PM Sub according to Prestons who tried to flog me one last month :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by petay993 View Post
    It's a relationship builder that PM Sub according to Prestons who tried to flog me one last month :)
    Did they put you on the list for a steel Daytona as well?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Did they put you on the list for a steel Daytona as well?
    Alas no but I am more of a Navitimer guy so no great loss.

    My wife likes the Daytona....

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    Quote Originally Posted by petay993 View Post
    It's a relationship builder that PM Sub according to Prestons who tried to flog me one last month :)
    Sounds like an abusive relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Sounds like an abusive relationship.
    Yep too true.

    Apparently it could be very helpful on my "Patek Journey"

    Absolute guff this lot come out with!!

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