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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Easily available
    You would have thought so but Iíve been to Harrods today and they only had probably 25-30 watches for sale out of 8 cases. 75% of the cushions were empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Easily available
    Thatís good... Iíve always liked them but itís not something Iíd usually consider... for most of its history, a Milgauss waiting list would have been not strange, but surreal... such are times that the question has to be asked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Shift from a watch thatís no longer available new to a watch thatís unobtainable new?

    I donít think so.

    Demand for grey/used will go UP because people will no longer have the hope of ďthe listĒ they think theyíre on to get a new one at list price.......
    Yes, I have been persuaded by one of the posts above which referenced the Daytona (116520/116500), which is a similar situation (desirable watch replaced by a more desirable one)... the 116520 prices have continued to rise with the Ceramic, but do seem to keep a few k behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    Yes, I have been persuaded by one of the posts above which referenced the Daytona (116520/116500), which is a similar situation (desirable watch replaced by a more desirable one)... the 116520 prices have continued to rise with the Ceramic, but do seem to keep a few k behind.
    Aye, Miltons listed a Daytona yesterday (non ceramic) for £15k. Itís sold already. 9 months ago ceramics were that much....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny73 View Post
    Donít want to start a fresh thread but I just came back from Singapore and they had a BLNR (new one on jubilee), ceramic sub and ceramic daytona (black face) in a cabinet with a sign saying ďthese are for demonstration purposes only and not for saleĒ.

    They were working watches mind,m (I tried the daytona) not dummies set at 10 to 2 or suchlike, hang tag on the bracelet and so on. The assistant was rude and not intent on talking or explaining what it was about so I left but am now wondering if I missed a trick? (Saying that I only want the white face daytona anyhow so Iím not too upset).

    Anyone seen this before?
    One of the ADís on Orchard Road had the full ss sports line up with the same ďdisplay onlyĒ signs. I found it quite amusing, I think the salesman did too. He was basically saying to me, ďwhat do I have to sell?Ē Gesturing at a cabinet with about 4 x datejust models!
    The service in ADís is hit and miss but I think they donít understand my accent half the time so are unsure what Iím talking about.
    To be fair to them Iíve heard tourists asking about Rolex ss sports & PP Nautilus multiple times already so think theyíre as fed up with it as everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Aye, Miltons listed a Daytona yesterday (non ceramic) for £15k. Itís sold already. 9 months ago ceramics were that much....
    Ah, that would've been mine, I sold it last week along with my Sub Date. The were both in as new condition. I didn't check how much the were up for, but I was happy with the price I got and it was risk free and quick. BTW Miltons paid me twice by mistake, Heywood sent me a nice email to thank me for sending back the over payment, and kindly donated £100 to a charity as thanks.

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    Michael Spierís in Plymouth had white and black OPs and blue dialled oyster/smooth bezel 2019 Datejust. The DJ looked awesome.


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    Yacht Master 37 ref 268622

    Saw one in the window of Watches of Switzerland in Canary Wharf, along with a SS DateJust 41 ref 126300

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronet king View Post
    You would have thought so but Iíve been to Harrods today and they only had probably 25-30 watches for sale out of 8 cases. 75% of the cushions were empty.
    I was in Harrods a couple of weeks ago and saw the same thing. Their Rolex concession is huge and yet there are no bloody watches in there to sell.

    Well, none that anyone sensible would want, anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merch131 View Post
    Ah, that would've been mine, I sold it last week along with my Sub Date. The were both in as new condition. I didn't check how much the were up for, but I was happy with the price I got and it was risk free and quick. BTW Miltons paid me twice by mistake, Heywood sent me a nice email to thank me for sending back the over payment, and kindly donated £100 to a charity as thanks.


    Bet Heywoodís blood pressure flickered slightly upward when he realised what had happened ?

    A nice touch from him for the charity donation, and well done you for a prompt response.

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    Goldsmiths, Watford Intu have a DJ 41 blue baton dial , fluted bezel on a Jubilee.

    Seems to be a popular model if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSTW View Post
    I was in Harrods a couple of weeks ago and saw the same thing. Their Rolex concession is huge and yet there are no bloody watches in there to sell.

    Well, none that anyone sensible would want, anyhow.
    Went there myself a few months back , it was empty bar possibly 3 watches. Started speaking to the gentleman there and he basically said every 5 mins people will come in and enquire about the same watches gmt , hulks , Daytonas , but as it was harrods and they have regulars who even do their weekly shop from there , all their "hot" stock is spoken for well in advance .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak_35 View Post
    Went there myself a few months back , it was empty bar possibly 3 watches. Started speaking to the gentleman there and he basically said every 5 mins people will come in and enquire about the same watches gmt , hulks , Daytonas , but as it was harrods and they have regulars who even do their weekly shop from there , all their "hot" stock is spoken for well in advance .
    Yup I heard the same. Even standing there in Harrods Rolex area, multiple Chinese tourists came in pointing at photos of a Daytona’s, Hulks, BLNR, Pepsi etc.....only to get shown the door.

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    Dropped by the Rolex shop in HK Airport last night as I do whenever I am wandering around an airport. They had one sports Rolex in the safe, a SD Deep Blue and offered it for $HK98k. I declined but thats the first time I have had a 'hit'. Shame it wasnt an SD43 or I would have been trapped!

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    What about PM Daytona's in Harrods

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    Not in the window, but Solid gold blue sub, and TT black sub available at Goldsmiths Metro Centre.

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    Goldsmiths at Merry Hill was devoid of anything today apart from a preowned Batman at a smidge under £14k. Bizzarely I was invited to put my name on the waiting list for a new one or a Pepsi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Goldsmiths at Merry Hill was devoid of anything today apart from a preowned Batman at a smidge under £14k. Bizzarely I was invited to put my name on the waiting list for a new one or a Pepsi.


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    Already on it, but that was only after I bought my explorer at another branch.

    It just took me by surprise that I was invited to go on it as a walk-in.


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    Was down Burlington Arcade Friday doing some shopping in the area, lovely 2018 116610LV in the window. Made an enquiry, only wanted £15,500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSTW View Post
    Saw one in the window of Watches of Switzerland in Canary Wharf, along with a SS DateJust 41 ref 126300
    By any chance the YM is still available? Canary Wharf is quite a long commute for me to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesycake7 View Post
    By any chance the YM is still available? Canary Wharf is quite a long commute for me to check.
    Surely just give them a call in the morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak_35 View Post
    Started speaking to the gentleman there and he basically said every 5 mins people will come in and enquire about the same watches gmt , hulks , Daytonas , but as it was harrods and they have regulars who even do their weekly shop from there , all their "hot" stock is spoken for well in advance .
    Being asked for something you canít sell every 5 minutes would get annoying very quick.

    You can almost understand the stickers, papers, sign this contract in blood attitude of some ADís, Rolex really are the master of branding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesycake7 View Post
    By any chance the YM is still available? Canary Wharf is quite a long commute for me to check.
    I visit CW monthly, that was my last trip. Sorry mate, worth a call though?

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    Does anyone know if TT CHNRs are still displayed on windows nowadays? Guessing not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesycake7 View Post
    Does anyone know if TT CHNRs are still displayed on windows nowadays? Guessing not?
    WF will buy for more than RRP so guessing not. Will be an allocation piece now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Being asked for something you canít sell every 5 minutes would get annoying very quick.

    You can almost understand the stickers, papers, sign this contract in blood attitude of some ADís, Rolex really are the master of branding..
    To be fair he was a very nice guy . He knew my question prior to me asking , yet was still polite in his reply . Had a good chat about the current state of Rolexes , and he did mention that due to the issues with S/S models he has sold alot of previously unloved stock .

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    When will all this madness end

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    When all of the "previously unloved" stock is sold??

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    Made my first Rolex AD round in central London this week (last time was ~3 years ago).

    Oh my god its dire. The Rolex windows (outside and in) are a compelte wasteland of empty cushions, ocationally scattered with some lady's gold watches. It must be hell working there, not having anything at all to sell. There's not even waiting lists.

    Last time I did this, they all had drawers of Subs etc, not GMT's or Daytones but still.

    I was looking to try the 'new' OP 39, none of them had it. Grey's is the only way apparently, even they admitted to it.

    So there is the official RSP, and then the actual market price at the Grey's next door. Mental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aph123 View Post
    Made my first Rolex AD round in central London this week (last time was ~3 years ago).

    Oh my god its dire. The Rolex windows (outside and in) are a compelte wasteland of empty cushions, ocationally scattered with some lady's gold watches. It must be hell working there, not having anything at all to sell. There's not even waiting lists.

    Last time I did this, they all had drawers of Subs etc, not GMT's or Daytones but still.

    I was looking to try the 'new' OP 39, none of them had it. Grey's is the only way apparently, even they admitted to it.

    So there is the official RSP, and then the actual market price at the Grey's next door. Mental.
    OP39s are still easily available out of London I believe. Same situation in HK with greys right next to ADs

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    i assume the rolex staff dont get paid commission then as theres bugger all to sell.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzyb123 View Post
    When will all this madness end
    Well this numpty is trying to get £9,000 for a used Air King so the bubble continues to expand!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Role...m/323912088794

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Well this numpty is trying to get £9,000 for a used Air King so the bubble continues to expand!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Role...m/323912088794
    if that sells for 9k the worlds gone tits up. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesycake7 View Post
    OP39s are still easily available out of London I believe.
    Thereís a member looking for one in this thread:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...P-114300-white

    Could you post details of where theyíre easily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aph123 View Post
    Made my first Rolex AD round in central London this week (last time was ~3 years ago).

    Oh my god its dire. The Rolex windows (outside and in) are a compelte wasteland of empty cushions, ocationally scattered with some lady's gold watches. It must be hell working there, not having anything at all to sell. There's not even waiting lists.

    Last time I did this, they all had drawers of Subs etc, not GMT's or Daytones but still.

    I was looking to try the 'new' OP 39, none of them had it. Grey's is the only way apparently, even they admitted to it.

    So there is the official RSP, and then the actual market price at the Grey's next door. Mental.
    Yeah thatís pretty much the standard experience now, which is a great shame.
    That said, itís making me look really hard at the 4/5 digit references for my next purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Well this numpty is trying to get £9,000 for a used Air King so the bubble continues to expand!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Role...m/323912088794



    Heís not a numpty at all , no harm in trying to get that price when youíre selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Well this numpty is trying to get £9,000 for a used Air King so the bubble continues to expand!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Role...m/323912088794
    When I clicked on the link I was half expecting to see his listing vandalised by the bitter disapproval of forum members baulking at the price and the sheer nerve of the man for trying to sell his own watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster73 View Post
    Heís not a numpty at all , no harm in trying to get that price when youíre selling.
    Surely it is being a prat listing something at £9k, when thereís a bunch of unworn ones on C24 at for £5300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    Surely it is being a prat listing something at £9k, when thereís a bunch of unworn ones on C24 at for £5300?

    Ever thought he doesnít know about C24 ? , thereís loads of folk I know havenít got a clue about watch forums and other selling sites , at worst heís a chancer , good luck to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    Surely it is being a prat listing something at £9k, when thereís a bunch of unworn ones on C24 at for £5300?
    C24 is notorious for blaggers, I keep an eye on 14060 prices as I have one and some people are asking £15K! that's virtually double other 14060 full sets but they still try it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster73 View Post
    Ever thought he doesnít know about C24 ? , thereís loads of folk I know havenít got a clue about watch forums and other selling sites , at worst heís a chancer , good luck to him.
    This is part of the problem to do with inflated market prices.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster73 View Post
    Ever thought he doesnít know about C24 ? , thereís loads of folk I know havenít got a clue about watch forums and other selling sites , at worst heís a chancer , good luck to him.
    Surely with Google etc. he could arrive at a ballpark price for the highly expensive item heís selling... heís not selling a biro, why didnít he take the trouble to find out the going rate? Iím sorry, he must be an imbecile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    C24 is notorious for blaggers, I keep an eye on 14060 prices as I have one and some people are asking £15K! that's virtually double other 14060 full sets but they still try it on.
    Ha, thatís incredible!

    That said Iíve seen similar things on eBay with all sorts of items. Iíve always been led to believe itís so that their listing gets to the top (or bottom) of when someone sorts their search results by price.
    I can only assume theyíre open to offers with a price that high if they are realistic about selling it.

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    If it sells for that Im selling my one for 8k as it has a little dink in it

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    If it sells for that Im selling my one for 8k as it has a little dink in it

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    Yacht master 2 rose gold at my AD in Horsham West Sussex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    Surely with Google etc. he could arrive at a ballpark price for the highly expensive item he’s selling... he’s not selling a biro, why didn’t he take the trouble to find out the going rate? I’m sorry, he must be an imbecile.
    He is not necessarily stupid. He may well be intentionally pushing up upper prices.

    I saw exactly this happen (albeit at a much lower level) with CWC G10s on eBay. Back when prices were £50-£70 for an average, perfectly good pre-used G10, I saw a few vendors asking £150-£250 for unremarkable ones. And here we are now, six months or so later, and common prices for G10s are well over £100 on eBay.

    Of course, all desirable watches are being pulled up in price indirectly by the Rolex effect (yes, even Seikos and G10s), but I felt that there was a concerted effort to push up asking prices of G10s. So why not Air-Kings too.
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    QDL in the Algarve , the local Rolex dealer had three YM in the window this morning.

    Full size and medium size Rhodium faced , plus a full size two tone gold model.

    No prices on show either.

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    This was in my window this evening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster73 View Post
    QDL in the Algarve , the local Rolex dealer had three YM in the window this morning.

    Full size and medium size Rhodium faced , plus a full size two tone gold model.

    No prices on show either.
    The YM is under appreciated, but definitely not in two tone...

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