Reply With QuoteThe worst propensity for every government is their need to "do something" and legislate rather than tackle the cause.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37565862
Of course, none of us would have any need or desire to carry a knife...
Even if they do in civilised countries, for all of those times when a knife is a handy thing to have. Such as cutting a piece of Camembert or stripping the insultion from a wire. Honestly.
Last edited by Cornholio; 6th October 2016 at 11:32. Reason: Removed BBC from title - wasn't having a go at the BBC
The worst propensity for every government is their need to "do something" and legislate rather than tackle the cause.
I've carried a pen knife in my pocket since I before I was 10 years old! So that's over 45 years. It goes every where with me and gets used for opening parcels, cutting paper, preparing food, etc... etc... In fact I often find, when in shops, that I end up lending my pen knife to store people to open things at the counter as they struggle with those stupid/useless covered knify things they use! I even used to carry it on planes of foreign holidays until all that hijack rubbish hit the fan a couple of decades ago. I remember on a flight back from Turkey once where the Turkish security people where showing said knife off to their colleagues after the scanner went off. They just larfed and handed it back.
If you need a knife to cut camembert then you're doing it all wrong.
"A man of little significance"
Typical of the BBC to "forget" to make the distinction between a legal to carry knife and an illegal to carry knife.
Like Steve, I always have a knife on my person.
Carrying a knife 'for a legal purpose' has never been illegal, so I'm not sure there's really a need to spell out ALL the legal niceties, is there?Originally Posted by hafle
Surely the BBC aren't responsible for the change in the law, anyway?
A case of shooting the messenger here I think... And of course, no-one's suggesting that people will be locked up for carrying a work knife or a pocket penknife to open their post...
What is it with people frothing at the mouth over the BBC? You don't see threads saying "Sky News is making carrying a gun illegal" do you?
M
BBC also call I knife a "cutting tool" when it suits.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-37401527
Meanwhile, a voice from inside the car said: "I've got a licence. I've got a licence. I've got insurance. You're smashing this for no reason."
The officer could then be seen striking the windscreen, shattering the glass before he sliced around the damaged area with what looked like a cutting tool.
I always carry one in my pocket too - but on the basis of this I'm going to change it as it is assisted opening and locking even if below the legal length (Ken Onion Leek that I've had for at least a decade). Oh well, another nice thing to go research and buy
What I would like to see however is the 'Zombie Killer', samurai swords and fantasy daggers that you see in the windows of certain shops somehow got rid of. They serve no purpose but to encourage violent fantasies (that sometimes become realities).
Good point!
A spoon is the appropriate utensil.
Already done - http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37080682I always carry one in my pocket too - but on the basis of this I'm going to change it as it is assisted opening and locking even if below the legal length (Ken Onion Leek that I've had for at least a decade). Oh well, another nice thing to go research and buy
What I would like to see however is the 'Zombie Killer', samurai swords and fantasy daggers that you see in the windows of certain shops somehow got rid of. They serve no purpose but to encourage violent fantasies (that sometimes become realities).
They've been quite sure not to mention that certain knives are perfectly legal to carry. If you don't think that their blanket statements are not done for a specific reason, that's pretty naive (and ironically the picture in the story includes a pocket penknife)Carrying a knife 'for a legal purpose' has never been illegal, so I'm not sure there's really a need to spell out ALL the legal niceties, is there?
Surely the BBC aren't responsible for the change in the law, anyway?
A case of shooting the messenger here I think... And of course, no-one's suggesting that people will be locked up for carrying a work knife or a pocket penknife to open their post...
What is it with people frothing at the mouth over the BBC? You don't see threads saying "Sky News is making carrying a gun illegal" do you?
M
REALLY? I may be being naive, but what's your take?
Are the BBC trying to imprison people for carrying penknives?????
I think you're reading too much into the modern 'soundbite' journalism that expects people to be too busy or too lazy to read more than a headline...
M
PS It does indeed include a penknife, but I still don't really see why you believe there's a conspiracy here...? The law will remain the law.
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While I understand the sentiment with regard to zombie knives and fantasy daggers, the samurai sword angle is less clear. There are quite a few legitimate collectors of antique (and contemporary) nihonto that could easily be lumped in with the wall hanger brigade. Practitioners of Iaido, kantei specialists, historians, art lovers and even investors could easily be punished as a result of this kind of knee jerk banning frenzy. It would be a shame to see a 600 year old irreplaceable and very valuable piece of historical art melted down just to appease those who think it's only violent fantasists who would want to own such things.
Last edited by Groundrush; 6th October 2016 at 13:24.
Already illegal to manufacture, import, sell or rent in the UK.
Not illegal to own, so samurai owners are OK AFAIK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37080682
and as it serves not US as the first priority it is far from per definition in our interest; nor good or even ethical.
Sorry, wasn't clear. I am referring to the samurai swords displayed on their plastic wood-ish stands next to the Zombie Killers and fantasy daggers - not the ones in the antiques and militaria shops - very different animal.
Considering how absurdly easy it is to make a machete from a piece of steel or, with a touch of 10-year-old's imagination, a zombie killer style version, I fail to see the point in any of it. No sane person would carry one while shopping or whatever. The number of YouTube instructions on how to do it... storm - teacup...
Hmmmmm Époisses,
Needs no knife.
I carry a leatherman wave on my belt every day, which technically has a locking blade on it, granted I am an electrician, and have never been pulled for it.
I guess if I wore my tracksuit and baseball cap back to front more often, there would be a problem with it.
So to summarise, something that was already illegal has become a bit more illegal. Smacks to me of "being seen to do something". :)
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