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    Heuer Collectors Summit 2016

    I have the urge to write about the Heuer Collectors Summit for those that did not attend and try to share with you my own experiences there. I have to start with the fact that i'm very grateful to Tag Heuer for the opportunity to participate in what could only be described the greatest watch related event i've ever attended.
    There was definately the feeling that there were three events running parallel to each other during our time there. The Tag Heuer tour & program, the preview of the new Autavia & then the social networking by the collectors that attended. No need to worry as to whether these were at odds to each other, as there were plenty social opportunities between the Tag Heuer tours & the new Autavia preview for collctors to share their thoughts & passions.

    Lets start with showing the program so you can see how it all hung together :

    SUNDAY 11
    People made their way to Hotel Palafitte in Neuchatel, Switzerland. It was not a matter of everyone arriving at the same time but rather a procession of collectors & media checking in & then making their way down to the open restuarant area to begin the social buzz. There were introductions & reunions as random groups of watches were piled up for photos & stories.



    People were very good at mixing, crossing nationalities & their own tastes/collecting genres to share with those around them. It seemed to me that we fed off each others excitement on this occasion with everyone getting the chance to see & hold some extremely exotic watches.
    The group were drawn together in the late afternoon sun upon the shores of scenic Lake Neuchâtel for the arrival of Jean Claude Biver ( the new CEO at Tag Heuer ). He then gave a welcoming speech that set the tone for the summit. It was very emotional & impressive in the fact that he admitted that Tag had not done enough in the past to support its own heritage and thanked us profusely for our own efforts & passion for the vintage pieces we admire so much. Very bold words indeed but it did not feel at all staged, it really gave me the feeling that they want us to survive & thrive with their support. May i add that he was wearing a very nice compressor case Autavia 2446 at the time!

    MONDAY 12
    An early start to the day as were shuttled to the Tag Heuer headquarters. We were taken in smaller groups through the factory.




    We saw new watches being hand assembled & then we shuffled into the vintage Heuer workshop where a few specialist watchmakers were servicing the watches we cherrish so much. Shock and awe is probably the best way to describe our reactions as we spotted a set of cupboards filled with vintage dials & bezels for nearly any model you can imagine.

    Dial anyone ?


    Or maybe a bezel




    It was almost too much for us to bear and we progressed with a barrage of questions for the guy in charge of the area.

    You may well have seen pictures of these already but its astounding to be in the presence of so many vintage spare parts. I can only imagine i had the same expression on my face as a 15yo girl meeting her favourite pop idol !!!
    Its worth noting that we were not going through the stockpile of parts ourselves & that we did not recieve any spare parts as souvenirs !!!

    From the excitement of seeing that amazing stock of vintage parts we were in for another treat as we shuffled in a trance to the next location. Next stop was the design teams CAD virtual Autavia & then suddenly ( & i do mean without warning ) BOOM, we saw the prototype 2017 Autavia !!




    There were even mock ups of the grains of rice bracelet & an orginal Gay Freres double rice for inspiration

    We were crawling over each other to photograph and hold it but there was time for us each to handle it. There was definately an air of excitement within the collectors group & the feedback i heard was very positive indeed.

    Here's a photo of my own 1962 Autavia 2446 next to the 2017 prototype - i think the heritage & styling cues are clear for all to see. I really like it & predict it will be a successful model for them when you cosider its powered by an inhouse movement, it really comes down to where they set the price at but i think there's a good chance i will buy one myself.


    Coming back to earth from the dizzying experience of seeing the vintage watch workshop & the new Autavia we met with Jack Heuer & he gave a speech in the Tag Heuer boardroom. I would add that he is still sharp and seemingly active gentleman, always a pleasure to meet him.


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    There were a numbers of workshops after lunch & inbetween was the perfect opportunity to relax in the themed Heuer museum. For anyone planning a tour to Tag Heuer i would strongly suggest an email to them prior to travelling to make sure the museum is open as its unlikely you will ever see a better range of dramatic and important Heuer's produced throughout the companies history.





    Late afternoon we were asked to go out behind the factory where Tesla had set up a makeshift drag strip. We were invited to drive the 95D model Tesla's upto the christas tree & give it everything they've got. My own explanation of the experience is that i have never driven anything with 4 wheels that accelerates so hard. Whoh yeh !!

    This was my own pass on the strip ;-)
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    Dinner was held up in the mountains in a chalet style restuarant where we ate the classic swiss dish fondue, great for the taste buds but probably not recommended by your cardiologist !


    There were more than just a few chronographs being passed around the various tables and i will say there were moments where food was far from everones priority as you would suddenly found yourself in the presence of yet another exotic watch.
    The drinks flowed, the stories followed & a good time was had by all.

    TUESDAY 13
    Another early start as we were on buses again on our way to the case factory. The current production is geared to make womans Link watches & standard Carrera's but were shown every part of their process. It was explained that Tag had recently invested in premium equipment & machinery and this meant they can now produce cases to a much higher standard, a promising sign for the forthcoming Autavia.
    We moved on to a second location where Tag has also upgraded its movement factory. This is the location where the inhouse Autavia movement will be produced. Formerly named the CH80 ( due to its 80 hour power reserve ) the movement will be known as the Heuer 03 when the Autavia goes into production.

    After lunch there were thankyou's & farewell's as we split away from the group & were shuttled to our various airports & and points of departure.


    My review of the summit :
    My most prevailing impression of the trip was the deeper level of commitment Tag Heuer is making towards the vintage Heuer community. It was not an attempt on their behalf to dominate us as collectors but more recognition for the good work we have done maintaining the prestige of the Heuer name. They made it clear that its also in their best interests to fly the vintage Heuer flag as high as possible in a market where they themselves are appealing to customers romantic link to the past.
    I thoroughly enjoyed my time at the summit. The staff & support from Tag Heuer were second to none. It takes a lot of planning to make such an event flow for a large & diverse group but Catherine & her hard working team made it look effortless. It was also clear to see that her team were enjoying the contact with us - i salute every one of them !!!
    The collectors were an outstanding blend of people. I've never seen such a large and cohesive group maintain their sense of unity in any subject. There were many new friends made & the promise to meet up again at the first opportunity.
    My thanks to everyone i met whilst in Switzerland, a great time was had by all.

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    Looks a great event. Thanks for posting.

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    Really interesting read Darren, many thanks for taking the time to write up your memorable experience!

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    Great write up, Darren, thank you. As someone who loves vintage watches, it makes me regard TAG Heuer in a different light, too... is there another manufacturer that shows this kind of respect to collectors of its products?

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    very enjoyable post

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    I enjoyed reading that Darren, very informative. Thanks for taking the time to post it here.
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    Interesting read, thanks for taking the time to post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Great write up, Darren, thank you. As someone who loves vintage watches, it makes me regard TAG Heuer in a different light, too... is there another manufacturer that shows this kind of respect to collectors of its products?
    Indeed - most impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELD1970 View Post
    Interesting read, thanks for taking the time to post.
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    Very interesting read.

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    It is nice to see Tag Heuer respecting it's past glories. I get the impression though they are taking their time and doing it properly rather than raiding granny's cupboard for a quick buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Great write up, Darren, thank you. As someone who loves vintage watches, it makes me regard TAG Heuer in a different light, too... is there another manufacturer that shows this kind of respect to collectors of its products?
    ^^ This. TAG seems to be about the manufacturer of scale currently to see its relationships with customers as a two-way thing.

    Great looking shindig.

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    Possibly Longines (whose records appear to be superlative).

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Great write up, Darren, thank you. As someone who loves vintage watches, it makes me regard TAG Heuer in a different light, too... is there another manufacturer that shows this kind of respect to collectors of its products?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broussard View Post
    Possibly Longines (whose records appear to be superlative).
    Yes, good example from what I understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Yes, good example from what I understand.


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    Biver is a master at this kind of thing: gets all the right people together; explains why the watch is different to the vintage model(s); talks like a "collector"; rebuilds links to vintage Heuer; and sends everyone away happy. Interesting, also, to note the role of key "collectors", 'bloggers and 'sites in this, and other Heuer-related events. If you compare the Haslinger Sale, for example, to the Philips' sale, the upcoming Heuer 100 and other online sales, the vintage brand has come a long way, and gained far greater notoriety.

    I'd hate to think what it all cost (few invitees have disclosed the estimated cost of the trip), but, given the coverage so far, I'd say it was worth it.

    Longines seems to follow a different route: maintain decent records from the start (unlike, it seems, the majority of other, similar, brands); allow access to collectors; provide extracts; release relatively faithful "Heritage" editions.

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    Thanks for posting, an interesting read!

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    As many have said on other threads, It's easy to be critical of present-day Tag Heuer given their rather marmite product range (Monaco excepted) and their recent brand/price repositioning, so it is heartening to see a bit of effort going into events such as these. Vintage Heuer is an interesting place to forage and it certainly feels like the brand is going out of its way to engage with its best customers and keep them close.

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    Sounds like an absolutely cracking trip OP.

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    One of the best posts I've read on here for a long time. Thanks for that!

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    Thanks for sharing, really enjoyed reading that.

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    Sounds like a fun trip. I'd read the HODINKEE review of the trip, so nice to hear of a TZ'rs account. Having recently started to appreciate the vintage Heuers i can only imagine it must have been like a kid in a sweet shop.


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    Brilliant event and report! Thank you.

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    A really interesting report, thanks.

    Any thoughts on the likely price range for the new Autavia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by village View Post
    One of the best posts I've read on here for a long time. Thanks for that!
    +1

    Also shows that it's worth treating customers well because they spread the word. My view of TH has improved (and I already lusted after the vintage Heuer stuff having bought the odd piece from Stewart (Europa, TZ passim).

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    That looked like my idea of the perfect mini-break, and my wife's idea of sheer hell

    Did you ask the white coat boffin in pic 6 if he always wears 2 watches? Maybe he was conducting a scientific timing test?

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    Come on, confess; how many of those vintage dials did you manage to sneak out?

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    A very good report, thanks for taking the time to post it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broussard View Post
    Biver is a master at this kind of thing: gets all the right people together; explains why the watch is different to the vintage model(s); talks like a "collector"; rebuilds links to vintage Heuer; and sends everyone away happy. Interesting, also, to note the role of key "collectors", 'bloggers and 'sites in this, and other Heuer-related events. If you compare the Haslinger Sale, for example, to the Philips' sale, the upcoming Heuer 100 and other online sales, the vintage brand has come a long way, and gained far greater notoriety.

    I'd hate to think what it all cost (few invitees have disclosed the estimated cost of the trip), but, given the coverage so far, I'd say it was worth it.
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    Exactly what you've said here !!!!
    And the supprt from Tag has been promised long term - this doesn't feel like a short romance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    Come on, confess; how many of those vintage dials did you manage to sneak out?
    I swear , it was a completely hands off deal. I so wanted to reach in & look around but fought the urge - as a guest it would have seemed like biting the hand that feeds you.

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    It sounds like it was a fantastic event, and a great display of hospitality by Tag Heuer.
    Thank you for taking the time to prepare the detailed write up.

    Good to see there are still some spares around, so one should never give up the search (although I expect those are pretty much priceless!)

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    Great writeup of what sounds like a fantastic trip.

    Interesting you say that people were complimentary about the new Autavia - there's been a lot of criticism of it, especially the bezel. Maybe people being polite or excitement overtaking them?

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    That certainly was a great write up and it sounds like a great day. Like others it is a brand that has previously not interested me but I happen to try on a vintage looking Monza in an outlet shop near York the other day and I was very impressed indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Cal.11/12 View Post
    Shock and awe is probably the best way to describe our reactions as we spotted a set of cupboards filled with vintage dials & bezels for nearly any model you can imagine.

    Dial anyone ?


    Or maybe a bezel

    Greetings, "shock and awe" certainly is a good way to put it. For those pics alone this was well worth the read, together with the 1962 2446. Thanks for sharing those.
    Regards,
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    Looks like a great trip, thanks for sharing. As others have said - impressive to see the stock of vintage bezels and especially dials!

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    Great post, thanks for sharing.

    Did they give any indication of their commitment to servicing and restoration of vintage pieces; it's great that they've got some stock but do they have the capacity for restorations?

    I've seen members on forums complain that Tag Heuer refuse to refinish even a modern Monaco case which suggests they don't have the expertise. Is this something that has or is likely to change?

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