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    Christoper Ward watch at 4000 pounds

    Please see the link- Any thoughts????

    https://www.christopherward.co.uk/wa...ato-1vev-range

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    I quite like the look of it



    Especially the power reserve...


    ...but not £4k like

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    "It's not often we get the chance to own a piece of history, never mind wear it. That's why the C9 DB4 '1 VEV' is so special: not only is it a beautiful watch, but it contains a body panel fragment from one of the sought-after sports cars in the world: the DB4 GT Zagato. And like the car, just 19 individual models have been made."

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    A sharp looking watch. Don't care much for the price and the fragment!
    How long before Bremont is evoked?
    1,2,3.......,,

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    I really like it, but struggle hugely with the 4k price tag. They woukd be better served marketing a regular model for less than a quarter of that and doing away with the Aston scrap metal scheme :)

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    Wow! Having seen the amount of increasingly pointless LE's available from brands like Bremont this does not float my boat.

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    I just don't get the incorporation of stuff into watches. Allegedly every glass of water we drink contains some once consumed and urinated by Napoleon.
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    One for the very keen CW collectors, or the owner of the Aston Martin itself - but not for me.

    New logo, 43mm, dial design, CW heritage and price are all against it for my taste. Not even in their winter sale at 50% off. The good thing is that CW are still pushing their boundaries to become something other than a "colour-supplement brand" and that should be applauded.

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    Looks well made and tells the time but I don't see any great resemblance to the DB4 or it's dials.

    The case and movement look similar to the C90.

    Last edited by TimeOut; 8th August 2016 at 19:01.

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    Not a fan of this style of marketing full stop.

    I'd rather they focus on a British design aesthetic and do it well than all these myriad "special editions", many of which are of dubious value at normal prices, let alone this level. A couple of things they have done are really nice such as the jump hour, moonphase, Trident (if you forgive the hands) but they're off on a tangent with these imo.

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    Yes I do quite like the look of it but how can they justify at 4 times what it should be priced at. I have to say limited edition watches in general are a real pet hate of mine.

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    Doesn't move me anywhere near enough to want to part with four grand for one. I'm not a car nut so the fact it's got a piece of scrap in it is lost on me too.

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    These LE,s with "car parts" embedded in them are becoming popular, it's a nice watch, but 4K for a CW??
    I just can't see the serious collector or Aston Martin aficionado caring much for this, I know CW are coming through, but as a fashion brand new pretender type.
    There was a thread recently of a watch with Ford Mustang metal embedded which I thought had some very cool design features, but this is just not doing it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeOut View Post
    Looks well made and tells the time but I don't see any great resemblance to the DB4 or it's dials.

    The case and movement look similar to the C90.

    Would that be the Honda c90 or the TDK C90?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Since there are only 19, I guess it will not have the usual Carpet Warehouse...sorry Christopher Ward discount at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Would that be the Honda c90 or the TDK C90?
    lol possibly the Sinclair

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    No No No NO! Ludicrously overstyled, desperate to look a little pointlessly different. And as for the price tag, it'd be overpriced even if it lost one of the zeros.

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    I like the look of it, but I wouldn't buy it. As others have already said, 4k is too much and that rubbish about a bit of metal from the Aston is a right turn-off.

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    I quite like the design if I'm honest. I've had a few CW's here and there but only have one now. I don't,however,like the logo. This is the third iteration,the second bring the hideous hospital ward sign,and it does CW no good whatsoever in the land of credibility by forking out loads of cash at regular intervals to so called brand experts who keep producing something your average 'man in pub with biro and fag packet' could come up with.
    I also am not a fan of this fad for sticking reject offcuts of so called historic bits of engineering into watches and then charging silly amounts for the pleasure. So the price is daft but no doubt it will sell.

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    Shame it's £4K . . . I like it but not anywhere near £4K.

    Hopefully they will release some with similar design without some old car parts for sub-£1k!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    "It's not often we get the chance to own a piece of history, never mind wear it. That's why the C9 DB4 '1 VEV' is so special: not only is it a beautiful watch, but it contains a body panel fragment from one of the sought-after sports cars in the world: the DB4 GT Zagato. And like the car, just 19 individual models have been made."
    It contains a piece of scrap metal that some chumps will actually pay for. Woop dee doo...

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    You're having a 4King laugh

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    Looks like something you get off Amazon for £20.

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    I really like the look of this watch, clean, clear design, at £4K you'd have to say this or the new Air King ... or perhaps the Bremont Jaguar ... it is a shame the Christopher Ward brand isn't stronger, the broad range of products and sales don't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christech81 View Post
    I really like the look of this watch, clean, clear design, at £4K you'd have to say this or the new Air King ... or perhaps the Bremont Jaguar ... it is a shame the Christopher Ward brand isn't stronger, the broad range of products and sales don't help.
    You know the game is up when even on the CW forum they are saying "£4k for a CW watch?"

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    Forget the price, I can't get past the aesthetics. Even though I'd regard myself as being something of a petrolhead I'm really not keen on watches that have been heavily influenced by car dials. The Bremont/Jag 3 hander is also a no-no (the chrono isn't so bad) though the tyre tread crowns on both are ghastly!

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    I actually quite like the design but 43mm!!!!! Really??? Clearly daft case sizes are here to stay.

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    I like the strap. Reminds me the one I got from Weston Watch Straps for under ten quid, to put on my first automatic.

    Was a little shocked when I realised this doesn't have the in house movement. But I suppose for this watch they've already lined up their 19 nutters, and a nutter who spends £4000 on something like this has left the concept of value for money a long, long way behind?

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    At least they chose a brilliant, lovely, car to highlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I like the strap. Reminds me the one I got from Weston Watch Straps for under ten quid, to put on my first automatic.

    Was a little shocked when I realised this doesn't have the in house movement. But I suppose for this watch they've already lined up their 19 nutters, and a nutter who spends £4000 on something like this has left the concept of value for money a long, long way behind?

    Really, it doesn't even have their 5 day movement?

    I though the pricing was crazy already with their 5 day movement. Those 19 people need to be marched straight into therapy

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    I don't normally like motoring inspired watches with speedo based dial designs as I think they are a little bit tacky. Bearing apart the pricing issues and the Belmont brothers type marketing gimmick ('each one contains a piece of the true Holy Cross / George Best's left shoelace etc) think this a pretty good looking watch. It's pretty unique looking which in itself is an achievement. I also think they have done well to ditch the old faux Georgian logo and that the new logo sits well on this piece.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Christopher Ward @ £4K LOL


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    4 grand for that?

    I wonder what they paid the "designer" for that rubbish Letraset logo. Even if it was a fraction of £4K they were robbed.

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    The competition is high in the £4K territory. Would I choose that over a Rolex or an omega or a JLC? No chance.

    Slightly off topic but the newer CW logo really looks like they just used the same/similar font from their Early Learning Centre logo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe.d View Post
    The competition is high in the £4K territory. Would I choose that over a Rolex or an omega or a JLC? No chance.
    You wouldn't get anything vaguely exclusive from the big manufacturers though. That will, undoubtedly, appeal to enough people to ensure you don't see these in the 50% sale any time soon!

    It's a bit bland for me and I wouldn't pay that much for anything from Rolex or Omega either (not sure about JLC's current range, but doubt that too), so this holds no appeal for me.

    It does look nicely made in the photos, but I find CWs ALWAYS look great in photos (unlike most watch manufacturers who photoshop their images so much they don't even look like photographs any more!), maybe not so in person...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeOut View Post

    A private (compared to some trust or fund that invest in cars) owner of a car like this one is a pure aficionado with a refined taste, a real epicurean. I cannot imagine him considering a piece like this CW. No history/pedigree, a (very) common movement, not a reputable/recognised brand, blunt design (my taste).....price is not the issue....

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    Isn't it the same watch as the GT40 'limited edition' which is 40 pieces? I don't know if there are others already produced in the same vein or planned.

    Looks nice but I think the 'Fuel Gauge' would look better if it looked like an actual AM period fuel gauge. But that would have meant making it a genuine limited edition.

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    No steel watch is worth 4k based on materials alone. Therefore a 4k watch has to sell based on the prestige of the name. CW does not have that prestige. End of.

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    Doesn't look like there are any buyers here yet then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus fenix View Post
    No steel watch is worth 4k based on materials alone. Therefore a 4k watch has to sell based on the prestige of the name. CW does not have that prestige. End of.
    But its not really watch is it, its a bit of commemorative tat in the form of a watch, the necessary prestige coming from the subject not CW....

    I'm trying to work out what exactly is in this for CW. 19 x 4k = £76,000 - is that a huge thing for them? I suppose most of that £76,000 is money that they wouldn't otherwise be receiving. But still, time and effort isn't free.

    Which is the bigger secondary benefit for them: getting to associate themselves with Aston Martin? or getting people used to the idea that a CW can cost £4,000?

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    Really getting ridiculous now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    But its not really watch is it, its a bit of commemorative tat in the form of a watch, the necessary prestige coming from the subject not CW....

    I'm trying to work out what exactly is in this for CW. 19 x 4k = £76,000 - is that a huge thing for them? I suppose most of that £76,000 is money that they wouldn't otherwise be receiving. But still, time and effort isn't free.

    Which is the bigger secondary benefit for them: getting to associate themselves with Aston Martin? or getting people used to the idea that a CW can cost £4,000?
    Exactly - I don't think this will sell to Watch fans, but to Aston Martin fans (not owners, necessarily).

    I think people underestimate the appeal of exclusivity too. Having one of just 19 watches WILL appeal to a significant number of people, certainly 19!

    I guess it's a bit of a 'halo' watch for them. With a 4K watch in the range, £1000 for a more common model doesn't seem so unpalatable (perhaps).

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    I think cw have a major ( historical) problem in that they can't seem to decide where to position themselves in the market. They seem to want to be all things to all men (and women *)


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    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    It looks 'nice' but not 'bloody gorgeous' that a £4000 watch should. And an ETA movement to boot. I'll pass thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Would that be the Honda c90 or the TDK C90?
    Volvo

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    As long as you can negotiate a £3500 discount it looks OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    But its not really watch is it, its a bit of commemorative tat in the form of a watch, the necessary prestige coming from the subject not CW....

    I'm trying to work out what exactly is in this for CW. 19 x 4k = £76,000 - is that a huge thing for them? I suppose most of that £76,000 is money that they wouldn't otherwise be receiving. But still, time and effort isn't free.

    Which is the bigger secondary benefit for them: getting to associate themselves with Aston Martin? or getting people used to the idea that a CW can cost £4,000?
    Plus the design itself - it will be sold in a non-limited edition form in a couple of years I'm sure...

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    I would be amazed if anyone with the nous to own an Aston Martin would be dumb enough to fork out £4,000 for this. I remember buying one of Christopher Ward's first watches, it was pretty damn good for the £100 selling price. This C9 DB4 watch is nice enough as it stands but it seems CW has moved to a different planet if he thinks he is going to get ANYWHERE near four grand each!
    Last edited by KavKav; 9th August 2016 at 10:04.

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    I'd be surprised if 10 of the production run of 19 actually go on sale to the public.

    Somebody asked 'What's in it for CW?' - publicity, dear boy. The need for content is so great now that what's discussed on specialist fora today is clickbait tomorrow.
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    Wonder if they'll be on watchfinder for £9k by the autumn?

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