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    Omega trench watch with a sandwich type dial..Valuation

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    That's a big old watch with a tonne of history I suspect. Enjoy

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    Very interesting, what a nice thing to find. Any chance of showing the movement?

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    Splendid looking old thing!

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    I think you are right It defiantly looks like a re-cased pocket watch movement. The indication would be the seconds at 9. How big is it? Cool thing


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    Thanks, nice to see. From a bit of googling the movement looks very much like the Omega Royal Flying Corps pocket watches but like I said the experts will no doubt be along soon.

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    Remember they have a fair bit of radium in, glowing or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    Good point best not store it in my underwear
    Or lick the dial!

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    That's just gorgeous. Why do I never find a good one like that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.chef View Post
    I think you are right It defiantly looks like a re-cased pocket watch movement. The indication would be the seconds at 9. How big is it? Cool thing

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    I do hope I am wrong but it does look like a Ukrainian conversion.
    Last edited by abraxas; 20th May 2019 at 19:10.

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    Brendan or Paul would probably know the answer to this one.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    Interesting point boys, they are indeed out there. The only thing I can confirm is the movement and hands are period correct for an omega. As and when this was converted is going to be difficult as it could have been done last week.
    I don't believe the hands are original to the movement. It's a curiosity piece but no collector value other than the movement. I would say it's worth around £100ish and defiantly doesn't have any military connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    I would "defiantly" say no one ever suggested it was.... 
    Apologies for the autocorrect error. I was referring to the eBay listing where it was described as a WW1 trench watch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    Ahh I can see what you are trying to do here...that listing was cancelled as soon as abraxas mentioned Ukrainian conversion...here is the full description WW1 was 1914/1918 right??
    I was trying to help as you had asked for some as I had in 2016. Sorry my valuation isn’t in-line with your £500 asking price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    And when that fails it’s now back to price....I have done absolutely nothing wrong here I have even pulled the ebay listing to prevent any issues with buyers out of this forum.
    What about the snarky comment at post 20? I was trying to help you out and you appear to be offended by what I have to say. Thanks


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    I do not think the entire watch dates to WW1. I would put forward the possibility that someone, possibly a pilot, had the movement recased in this obviously quite dated case. Looking at the wear and patina, I would (stylistically) date the case as 1930's and the movement has been there since then.
    Loving the dial and hands, very difficult to assess their originality, but I like the watch any way.
    Last edited by bobbee; 20th May 2019 at 23:34.

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    Bob could well be right, it might not be WW1 but it does look old enough and seems to be well put together.
    Also given the size of some Panerai would be wearable for some. Looks a nice thing and I’m sure someone would buy it.
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    Looks very cool, but it's not got a sandwich dial otherwise the middle of the 6 would fall out !!! 😁

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    Case looks stainless. When did that become normal?
    I'd have expected a 1915 watch to be silver (or plate), chrome or nickel.

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    If you have a UV light, it might be a good idea to check the luminosity of the numerals, as I see what looks like luminous paint markers behind each number.
    The dial looks faded, it may originally have been much darker.

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    UV pens with a light are incredibly cheap on eBay, under a pound and well worth it as you can also invisibly mark your belongings with them.


    Edit- a picture of my 1967 diver using one of those cheap pens, for reference.



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    That is a lovely big piece of kit. Congrats

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    Has anybody ever seen that case before on an Omega?

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    Why not ask the question across on MWR, if your a member on that forum. A gp of very knowledgable guy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jambobbyb View Post
    Fair point but the case and lugs are plated...it’s thick but it is plated..
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    You're right. Now I look back at the original photos, the brassing is quite visible on the wired lugs when viewed from the top.
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