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    Big Rolex sale at Christie's (Milsub, Comex, Paul Newman..)

    Just had an interesting browse through the lots.

    Lot 100 caught me eye...

    http://www.christies.com//lotfinder/...f-7ad321f1254d

    16th May in Geneva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeOut View Post
    Just had an interesting browse through the lots.

    Lot 100 caught me eye...

    http://www.christies.com//lotfinder/...f-7ad321f1254d

    16th May in Geneva.
    Thanks for the heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeOut View Post
    Just had an interesting browse through the lots.

    Lot 100 caught me eye...

    http://www.christies.com//lotfinder/...f-7ad321f1254d

    16th May in Geneva.

    As a fans of the Rolex, that one in the website is really a masterpiece

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    A watch with those details has surfaced before.

    What do members think of that bezel insert.......?

    Haywood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    A watch with those details has surfaced before.

    What do members think of that bezel insert.......?

    Haywood
    I don't like it. I quite like this though:

    http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/w...&page=11&lid=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    A watch with those details has surfaced before.

    What do members think of that bezel insert.......?

    Haywood
    It's black, with markings all around. The 0.2 micrograms less ink involved should bump the price by only $80,000 or so, making it the world's most expensive anti-matter, at around $400,000,000,000,000 per negative kilo ;).
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew View Post
    It's black, with markings all around. The 0.2 micrograms less ink involved should bump the price by only $80,000 or so, making it the world's most expensive anti-matter, at around $400,000,000,000,000 per negative kilo ;).
    A genuine military insert might make a price difference........

    H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    A genuine military insert might make a price difference........

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    You don't think it is ? I don't really have an opinion - seems to be in good shape considered there is rust on hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post

    What do members think of that bezel insert.......?

    Haywood

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    Looks like a replacement insert to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    A genuine military insert might make a price difference........

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    I'm not disagreeing but can you tell us how you identify it's not genuine? Font? weight of markings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowflow View Post
    I'm not disagreeing but can you tell us how you identify it's not genuine? Font? weight of markings?
    That sort of question, especially with the highest value parts, often causes a dealer something of a conflict.

    I'm afraid that I don't wish to comment on open forum and provide the fakers with any assistance, but of course as a fellow tz-uk member I would happily and for no charge give an opinion on such a bezel insert if you were offered one. Is that a fair and reasonable compromise?

    Haywood

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    I was interested so had a quick search and found a couple of different ones. There's absolutely no chance I will ever be offered one, so I don't expect to call upon Haywood for assistance but appreciate the offer nonetheless!

    The Christies one..



    Another that looks similar posted here in 2010..

    https://www.timekeeperforum.com/foru...mariners.9270/



    Finally a third that I found here that looks slightly different to the others..

    http://www.diving-watch.net/MILSUB-M...EX-SUBMARINER-

    Last edited by TimeOut; 19th April 2016 at 16:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris56 View Post
    Looks like a replacement insert to me.
    If by "replacement" you mean not genuine, then yes, it would appear so.

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    Lot of funny estimates in this sale btw

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    It's a minefield, and I'm happy to be just an interested observer when it comes to vintage Rolex :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonasy View Post
    You don't think it is ? I don't really have an opinion - seems to be in good shape considered there is rust on hands.
    Jonasy if Haywood says it's not then honestly take it that it's not...he knows his stuff

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    Estimates are just designed to get bidders interested arent they? And say how something 'smashed the estimate'... shame!

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    I know but it is still funny to see. Last week a was at a local auction where a Heuer 2446 had an estimate of EUR 500-800. There were 2 guys in the room without much knowledge who thought that it would end in that region. However: it ended at EUR 8600 excl 28% fee....

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    Dread to think what some of these will go for... Bubble prices

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