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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    If so I wonder why Omega regards this as an issue?
    It is curious.

    Going to ask them? (He asks nosily)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    It is curious.

    Going to ask them? (He asks nosily)
    Yes, Ive emailed them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Yes, Ive emailed them
    Cool.

    Apologies for being pushy. It's just that the mismatch between what appears to be a genuine original case back versus Omega's comment intrigues me.

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    That bracelet looks rather good - I've just sent something off to Seth at the other place but I'll have to keep this in mind.

    The caseback stipulation is interesting and I'd want to find out a little more before surrendering anything to Bienne. Everybody seems to have a high opinion of the service manager at STS (with the possible exception of pipsqueak) so perhaps pick up the phone. I'd also be looking at examples on Ebay to see if there are any like yours.

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    Just checked my CD186.0005 ( gold plated rectangle version) and that has product detail, Omega stamp and case ref.
    Not that it proves anything either way, but suppose mine would be able to be guaranteed water resistent if serviced by Omega or their agents.

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    According to STS its the fact that the 'Seamaster' back (which is the correct one) doesnt have the required references stamped on the inside. They would return the original if proceeding with replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    According to STS its the fact that the 'Seamaster' back (which is the correct one) doesnt have the required references stamped on the inside. They would return the original if proceeding with replacement.
    Interesting, thanks for the update. It does seem rather odd that they would want to replace what is the correct (and presumably original) back but so be it I guess. At least they say they'll return it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    A different kind of Speedmaster!

    Arrived yesterday - 1976 Speedmaster Professional 186.0004 Quartz - LCD display - calibre 1620

    Very unusual Speedy! Me like a lot!!
    Wear it in good health!

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    Update!

    It arrived back from Bienne via STS yesterday



    Fully serviced with new case back and pushers

    With reference to previous posts concerning the case back - here is the original. As you can see there are no reference numbers etc engraved on the inside



    New case back



    Now back on its recently refurbished original Omega bracelet



    It not quite perfect but not far off. A couple of dings here and there that couldn't be polished out completely and some wear to the bezel including a slight crack at 10 o'clock but not very noticeable at all





    I wonder how many of these rarer round case LCD Speedmasters are left?

    Ian

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    Sorry, forgot to say - in relation to a few earlier posts regarding case size here are some measurements taken this morning

    Case excluding pushers



    Case with pushers



    Lug to lug



    Height



    Hope thats of interest
    Ian

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    Excellent, thanks for the update!

    Must be lovely to have it back.

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    Thanks Mark

    Feels as though its been away for years!
    Last edited by Velorum; 13th May 2016 at 15:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    I wonder how many of these rarer round case LCD Speedmasters are left?
    I still have mine even though my collection is down to just a few select pieces. Still surprised STS can't do them any longer but glad you have yours back and you like it :)

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    Thanks

    Thought that I would try it on a Hirsch this afternoon

    I quite like it




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    Great to see it back Ian.

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    Now on my hit list. For my money the original bracelet tops all the leather and nato options. Just gives it the vintage vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watkins101 View Post
    Now on my hit list. For my money the original bracelet tops all the leather and nato options. Just gives it the vintage vibe.

    Last edited by Velorum; 24th February 2017 at 23:32.

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    Shortly after the above post, due to the need to raise some cash quickly I sold this back to Dan (Caruso)

    Fast forward to this week and it becomes the latest of my watches to be passed to and fro with another forum member

    Looking forward to getting it back tomorrow and I am grateful to Dan for letting me have it!

    I have in mind trying it on a Bonetto Cinturini rubber strap
    Last edited by Velorum; 26th February 2017 at 17:57.

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    A very different speedie.....abosultely perfect in every way. Love it.

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    Happy for you Ian and chapeau to Caruso.

    VeryVERY cool watch imo.
    They only made them for a year I believe.

    Good quality Omega luxury watch with modern tech accurate chronograph. The digital read out is also proper stopwatch format.
    The only niggle would be the pushers. Omega could have fitted the ones with the slightly mushroomed tops they used on their stopwatches as they later did on the 'Polaris' Seamaster.

    Anyway; a rather special watch. Thank you for sharing the story.

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    Thanks folks

    I have removed the bracelet and am awaiting some straps to try.

    Its nice to have it back - sorry for the poor photo, my camera is misbehaving



    I do realised of course that the seconds are slightly out as indicated by the atomic G Shock that synced early this morning. I just wasn't quick enough pressing the start button on the Speedmasters reset function!
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    Lovely watch and very cool !

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    Here's an interesting 'grandfather of the X-33' link

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...alaska+project



    Last edited by Velorum; 25th February 2017 at 12:44.

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    Glad to see it back Ian. Slight pang of regret on my behalf, but having the other one helps!

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    The other one mentioned by Dan is where the bracelet came from, the only way I could source the virtually unobtainable end links was to buy a complete watch and bracelet set!

    In retrospect I'm not sure it was quite worth the effort and expense as try as I might I just cannot get on with bracelets and this is a watch to wear as opposed to keep as a collectors piece!

    In consequence the bracelet will soon be reunited with its original Speedmaster.

    I think that one of these might look and feel good

    BC293


    BC297


    The BC285's Ive tried in divers on the past have been super soft and comfy

    I'm also going to try one of these. Its one of the few rally straps Ive spotted that come in a shorter 110/70 size

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post


    Again thanks.
    The only one 'missing' in the thread is the Z-33.

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    I only have this version, bracelet is better imo.


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    Nice!

    Box and manual look original

    Just as well the bracelet wears OK as it would be difficult to fit an alternative I suspect

    Do you wear it often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Nice!

    Box and manual look original

    Just as well the bracelet wears OK as it would be difficult to fit an alternative I suspect

    Do you wear it often?
    Never wear it, just got it back from STS who fixed the light not working.
    For the chop soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    Never wear it, just got it back from STS who fixed the light not working.
    For the chop soon.
    Well there seems to be growing interest in this kind of vintage LCD so you should be able to move it on OK. I believe that LCD Speedmasters are sought after in Japan so an international eBay listing perhaps if there is no interest here. I have also seen them traded on the Omega forum - which appears to be mainly USA based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    For the chop soon.
    Just looking at eBay and I see that prices are often quite strong for those pieces, for example

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Lcd-...MAAOSw4GVYQfPB


    As regards the 186.004, they don't appear very often - I'm not sure what this one will end up going for. It has its original box (no papers) but from the description is clearly in need of attention. As mentioned previously mine had to go back to Beinne as no one else could service it - at a cost of £550!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speedmaste...gAAOSwax5YrdTF
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    Though it might be interesting to include this extract from the Omega forum here

    Ive been searching the net and I cant find any pictures of it being worn by a shuttle pilot - I'll keep looking though




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    Have you noticed the NOT made in Switzerland? ;-)

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    Ok I'm going to do it. What's the deal with this? Is it the rarity of it that makes it desirable? I can't stand the look of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Ok I'm going to do it. What's the deal with this? Is it the rarity of it that makes it desirable? I can't stand the look of it
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, they are rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huertecilla View Post
    Have you noticed the NOT made in Switzerland? ;-)
    I hadn't actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    I hadn't actually
    A few movement shots from the net





    And this is a shot of the other one that I sold to Dan


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    Searching through the forum it would appear that there are four 186.004 owners on here

    Gurmot (Simon)
    dickstar1977 (Tom)
    Caruso (Dan)
    Velorum (me)

    As a matter of interest - is there anyone else?
    Last edited by Velorum; 26th February 2017 at 23:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Searching through the forum it would appear that there are four 186.004 owners on here

    Gurmot (Simon)
    dickstar1977 (Tom)
    Caruso (Dan)
    Velorum (ian)

    As a matter of interest - is there anyone else?
    Yes, and I supplied one of the others on the list (I had two at one time when I had a few other 1620's which were passed on to other forum members). Just one round 1620 and a steel memomaster left in my possession.
    Last edited by Gurmot; 26th February 2017 at 18:33.

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    So at least 3 of us have owned multiples - with various pieces passing between us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmot View Post
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, they are rare.
    Ok. So are there different grades of quality for a digital watch. That's a genuine question if it sounds stupid.

    It just looks like a digital watch but was made by Omega and is therefore special. Is it built a lot better than others? Don't mean to cause offence by the way.

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    Well done on getting it serviced.
    I think looks best on the NASA strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Well done on getting it serviced.
    I think looks best on the NASA strap.
    Thanks

    I had high hopes for the NASA Velcro, its such a shame that it didn't fit. I might give this a go at some point - I will be extra careful with my measurements next time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Ok. So are there different grades of quality for a digital watch.
    There are even eight (that I know of) different display types ranging from mechanical to EPD. This Omega is the dominant one of three LCD ones.
    And yes there is a wide range of quality in the movements/modules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Kinda growing on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Ok. So are there different grades of quality for a digital watch. That's a genuine question if it sounds stupid.

    It just looks like a digital watch but was made by Omega and is therefore special. Is it built a lot better than others? Don't mean to cause offence by the way.
    It depends on how one perceives quality. My current cal 1620 LCD Speedmaster runs very accurately at around +/- 1 sec per month and no fancy nuclear clock synchronising, just good quality electronics. That said, the accuracy is not the main attraction for me. I like the looks, the history and the rarity.

    No offence by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Searching through the forum it would appear that there are four 186.004 owners on here

    Gurmot (Simon)
    dickstar1977 (Tom)
    Caruso (Dan)
    Velorum (Ian)

    As a matter of interest - is there anyone else?
    Ian, the one you currently have I bought from Gurmot back in 2014. So it's been in forum membership for nearly 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Ok. So are there different grades of quality for a digital watch. That's a genuine question if it sounds stupid.

    It just looks like a digital watch but was made by Omega and is therefore special. Is it built a lot better than others? Don't mean to cause offence by the way.
    Steve, it's a fair question. For me the attraction is it's place in history as a piece of high quality cutting edge technology. I also used to have a lovely old Bang & Olufsen TV from the 1980s. It had a wood effect case and almost oval screen, but it was beautifully made including the metal remote control and the sound was fantastic - good enough to fool my cat into thinking there were birds in the room. Obviously the display technology has been surpassed since then, but like the LCD Speedmaster it was fundamentally well engineered and in many ways performed as well as or better than much more modern stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmot View Post
    It depends on how one perceives quality. My current cal 1620 LCD Speedmaster runs very accurately at around +/- 1 sec per month and no fancy nuclear clock synchronising, just good quality electronics. That said, the accuracy is not the main attraction for me. I like the looks, the history and the rarity.

    No offence by the way.
    I see. Very interesting! I just kind of assumed a quartz digital would be bang on rather than a mechanical watch with moving parts etc etc. How do they service such a watch? Now my eyes are being opened. Did any other luxury brands do digital?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caruso View Post
    Steve, it's a fair question. For me the attraction is it's place in history as a piece of high quality cutting edge technology. I also used to have a lovely old Bang & Olufsen TV from the 1980s. It had a wood effect case and almost oval screen, but it was beautifully made including the metal remote control and the sound was fantastic - good enough to fool my cat into thinking there were birds in the room. Obviously the display technology has been surpassed since then, but like the LCD Speedmaster it was fundamentally well engineered and in many ways performed as well as or better than much more modern stuff.
    Thanks for the answer. Very interesting to read what makes it special to people. Really makes you appreciate this forum and his wildly varying views and tastes.

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