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    Early in the thread someone suggested that it would become known as the thread of pain. Having run through it my mouth has been open, tongue lolling out and eyes wide open with undisguised envy and lust. Very unplesant to behold and damn painful ( dry mouth,, tongue like leather, tears and sore eyeballs). Thread of pain is right. Worth it though for some great watches in super condition. My rather battered Longines Greenlander is a bit of a wallflower in such august company still love it though.

    Congratulations you fortunate ( was going to say "lucky" but I am certain that hard work had more to do with it than chance ) ble*ders. Super collections.

  2. #102

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    Great collections I will post my collection tomorrow.!!!

  3. #103

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    Smiths W10's - You can find them in the sales Corner as I am selling all 5 as a Lot!!!


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    I enjoy collecting British military issue Rolex Submariners.

    Sadly, as we all know, they're becoming rarer and dearer by the day.

    Fortunately, I do have a few to keep me going...



    :D

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    Re: Military Collections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Wood
    I enjoy collecting British military issue Rolex Submariners.

    Sadly, as we all know, they're becoming rarer and dearer by the day.

    Fortunately, I do have a few to keep me going...



    :D
    :shock: :shock: :shock: :o :o :( :( :evil: :cry: :D :) :) :) :cheers: :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

    that's just so... beautiful... :)

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    A very interesting read and some very nice collections.

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    Some update of the 56' group candies... :D

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    Enjoy!! :lol: :P :drunken:

  8. #108

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    Great collection Hans!
    It seems you have them all.
    Congratulations,
    Adrian.

  9. #109

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    Not a bad collection you have got there :wink:

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    Re: Military Collections

    There´s nothing new I have to offer which hasn´t been mentioned exept this one perhaps;
    WWW Jaeger LeCoultre P dial KNIL marked, probably one of the rarest.KNIL
    is the abbreviation of “Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger”.In English : “ROYAL
    DUTCH ARMY OF THE EAST INDIES”.
    Adrian van der Meijden wrote an article together with Hans Goerter about Knil and the www watches;
    http://www.goerter.de/IWCFORUM/THE_IWC_ ... RPROOF.pdf










    Regards Jimmy

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    Re: Military Collections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Wood
    I enjoy collecting British military issue Rolex Submariners.

    Sadly, as we all know, they're becoming rarer and dearer by the day.

    Fortunately, I do have a few to keep me going...



    :D
    Jesus wept....I didn´t think it possible, and there´s me with my one civil 1964 meters firt submariner...puts one to shame

    best regards

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    Re: Military Collections

    This may also be of interest, the Mark 11 was also used with the Astro Compass for navigational purposes


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    Hi Jimmy,
    Nice JLC W.W.W. KNIL.
    It is a pity that the lugs are not fixed ones.
    Regards,
    Adrian.

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    Hi Adrian,
    do you know, I didn´t even notice it till now. Probably because I always have a strap on it.It will be done, I can assure you, and done so there is no difference to the original.
    I´ll let you know when its done, maybe even show the next time you go on a "Kopje Koffie" with Hajo Th.....(Aix la Chapelle)

    Regards Jimmy

  15. #115

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    OK,Jimmy, now you have made me curious!
    Regards,
    Adrian. :o

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    Let my Mark 11 go recently so am down by 1 :(

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    Re: Military Collections

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    Do we have a member with a military Smiths Deluxe and who is prepared to let Eddie laser scan it for a homage?

    1300 quid for a Smiths
    viewtopic.php?f=1&t=132180

    john

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    -Some eyes sweeties

    Smiths group



    Divers Group



    Enjoy!! :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansL
    -Some eyes sweeties

    Smiths group



    ......
    Are these yours?

    john

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    Makes ones eyes water...very,very nice Hans!
    Regards Jimmy

  21. #121

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    Some more....

    Two button Mil chronos...



    JLC MK XIs



    Enjoy!! :bounce:

  22. #122

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    Just overwhelming.....
    Adrian.

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    Re: Military Collections

    Is everthing blurred or are my eyes watering?
    by the way, a couple of the Jaeger LeCoultre´s have spring bars, or am I wrong?
    Ive just had one of mine altered!

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    Hi Geronimo,
    You might be referring to the Mk 11, where the IWC (RAF) had fixed bars and the JLC had spring bars.
    Regards,
    Adrian. :wink:

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    Thanks Adrian, one is never too old to learn... :D

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    Re: Military Collections

    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo
    Is everthing blurred or are my eyes watering?
    by the way, a couple of the Jaeger LeCoultre´s have spring bars, or am I wrong?
    Ive just had one of mine altered!
    Interesting that you have a Prometheum JLC, so do I. I always assumed that these were MoD redials from the 1970s.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Hi Geronimo,
    You might be referring to the Mk 11, where the IWC (RAF) had fixed bars and the JLC had spring bars.
    Regards,
    Adrian.
    That's not my understanding. I always understood that RAF issued JLC's have fixed bars whilst RAAF issued JLC's have spring bars.

    Cheers

    Foggy

  28. #128

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    You are absolutely right!
    Sorry for the omission.
    Regards,
    Adrian.

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    Re: Military Collections

    Quote Originally Posted by HansL

    JLC MK XIs

    I'm very jealous, these are superb.

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    Interesting that you have a Prometheum JLC, so do I. I always assumed that these were MoD redials from the 1970s.
    whether they were from the 70´s, is beyond my knowledge, but I´m sure we should find out soon. Maybe Adrian or someone else who has more qualified information would like to submit their opinion on this matter?
    Regards Jimmy

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    Re: Military Collections

    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo
    Interesting that you have a Prometheum JLC, so do I. I always assumed that these were MoD redials from the 1970s.
    whether they were from the 70´s, is beyound my knowledge, but I´m sure we should find out soon. Maybe Arian or someone else who has more qualified information would like to submit their opinion on this matter?
    Regards Jimmy
    I know the watches aren't from the 70s but the fact that Prometheum was used ties it down to quite a narrow time-frame, Prometheum was pretty useless and only used for 3 or 4 years.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    I´m surprised the used Promethium at all!
    Used as a light source for signals that require reliable, independent operation (using phosphor to absorb the beta radiation and produce light). In particular, Promethium(III) chloride (PmCl3) mixed with zinc sulfide (ZnS) was used for a time as a major luminous paint for watches after radium was discontinued. This mixture is still occasionally used for some luminous paint applications (though most such uses requiring radioactive materials have switched to tritium for safety reasons).
    Promethium must be handled with great care because of its high radioactivity. In particular, promethium can emit X-rays during its beta decay. Its half-life is less than that of plutonium-239 by a factor of about 1350, and its biological toxicity is correspondingly higher. Promethium has no biological role.

    What were their plans, (MoD) give the watches to the enemy as an unexpected present, and wait for them to die? :D

    Jimmy

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    All W.W.W. watches were delivered in 1945 and all had a Radium dial. While the W.W.W.'s arrived too late for what they were ordered for : WW II, the MoD had to store thousands of Radium loaded watches and it was this storage that caused trouble. While one Radium watch per soldier was not a health problem, the thousands of stored watches in one room , made the place a significant nuclear source. That was the reason to scrap many watches and to exchange most of the dials of the remaining watches by Tritium and a few by Promethium. I do not know the time span wherin Promethium was used.
    Tritium is a Beta-emittor and its radiation will not leave the wach : the Beta-rays are blocked even by the watch crystal.
    But its half-time is so short ( 12,33 years), that after 5 years the luminous effect almost has been disappeared. In the 1990-ties, Tritium was replaced by SuperLuminova a not radioactive material that is "turned on" by white or ultra-violet light.
    This after-glow effect makes that a modern watch can be read in the dark, because it has been charged during the day. The tecnnique of " after glow" has already been used by IWC when they made during WW II deck watches for German submarines. The whole dial was coated with ZnS (Zinc sulphid). On board was an UV-lamp. The watch was lighted for a few seconds and presented than the "after-glow" effect.
    Regards,
    Adrian.

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    Re: Military Collections

    It seems that Seiko started using Promethium in the mid-80s and discontinued it around 1991. It was certainly used on the Gen 1 RAF quartz chronograph, not sure about the Gen2.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    I am in awe of the collections I have just seen, and the knowledge of the collectors. :cheers:

  36. #136

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    Some update of the Longines...24 hours dials im COSD and Dennison casings...

    There is an additional small pilot watch as well... :D

    All with "original" strap...



    Enjoy!!

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    I think I can play at this one.
    Die Zeit verwandelt uns nicht, sie entfaltet uns nur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy
    Hi Geronimo,
    You might be referring to the Mk 11, where the IWC (RAF) had fixed bars and the JLC had spring bars.
    Regards,
    Adrian.
    That's not my understanding. I always understood that RAF issued JLC's have fixed bars whilst RAAF issued JLC's have spring bars.

    Cheers

    Foggy
    Yep, my RAAF JLC has springbars.

    Br,

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    Re: Military Collections

    Mine too



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    Re: Military Collections

    My modest dozen.....

    Five issued CWC's (to each of the services Army/Air Force/Navy/Royal marines plus an extra RM Diver)

    WWW Record

    Pair of issues Precista's (Army/RAF)

    A cushion case Hamilton and an unissued CWC to match

    A Stocker & Yale and the Seiko 'Contra' Fieldmaster.


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    New additions added... a LeCoultre, SAAF Longines and black dialed Omega...



    Enjoy and Salute!!

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    Wonderful to see Hans, thanks for posting. 8)

    AP.

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    Re: Military Collections

    Yes the Gen 2 - military or civilian - also had Promethium - hence the Circle P on the dial. The Gen 2 in the picture below was bought new from a Wimbledon watch shop in around 1995. It made for a very clear and legible display, by day or night:

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    I just read the whole thread,.... pfff, what a knowledge and nice wathces!!!

    I'm more and more into vintage and also Military watches. I only got two but am very happy with both of them.

    Pictures:


    and



    Hope you like them. Still want a Hamilton without Geneve and one with only CWC.

  45. #145

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    A couple of mine...
    A Gen 1 Seiko and the Titanium Tutima




  46. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by notnowkato
    A couple of mine...
    A Gen 1 Seiko and the Titanium Tutima



    Nice looking Tutima, reminds me of a Sinn!

  47. #147

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    Fabulous collection.......and plenty of natos i'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davide
    Here is my military collection -




    Very nice.......have been feeling the Lemania pull real quick in recent weeks.

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    Re: Military Collections

    I had the camera out today to get some quick and dirties of the military collection, just for insurance records. I've never had them all in one place at the same time before.

    Mostly post-war RAF, with some W10s, quartz and an interloper (with a real military pedigree). I also have the "Dirty Dozen" with extra Records and Eternas.



    My favourite part of the collection, the Navigator's:



    and a picture I've posted before:


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    Super collection!
    Thanks for showing,
    drool, drool...... :lol:
    Kind regards,
    Adrian.

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