Reply With QuoteReally looking forward to it, I have to say I'm loving the modern Bond as much as the classic stuff at the moment, long may Daniel Craig reign as 007.
Another new motor for this one, Aston Martin DB10 - limited to just ten cars (plus movie props).
Here is a behind the scenes of the new bond - Spectre. its gunna be awesome
https://twitter.com/007/status/565842513995366402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN0Ts2UeWI
Really looking forward to it, I have to say I'm loving the modern Bond as much as the classic stuff at the moment, long may Daniel Craig reign as 007.
Another new motor for this one, Aston Martin DB10 - limited to just ten cars (plus movie props).
I got really excited at the unveiling last year, and then remembered it was the same writing crew and director as last time.
I was very disappointed with Skyfall, remember coming out of the cinema thinking it was a good film but not a good Bond film. Re-watched it over xmas and changed my mind, its still not a good Bond film, but it's not a good film either. Poor pacing, tries to be a serious story and yet has the most unbelievable setups and coincidences. Doesn't have any of the signature Bond look (the camera work was fine, it just didn't look like Bond), or sound, which gives them so much of their identity. The opening scene is one of the best in any Bond, and the last 2 minutes brought a smile to my face, but everything else in between is a disjointed snoozefest.
I loved Casino Royale, but am not sure Craig is the right man for Bond, I certainly don't think Mendes is the right man to direct, and whoever did the score really isn't the man for the job.
I'll still be going on opening night, but with much lower expectations than last time.
I have to agree.Originally Posted by gamingdave
Everyone seemed in agreement that it was a modern masterpiece of a Bond movie, but both I and the wife (a big movie buff) also thought that it didn't feel Bond enough. DC does the hardman act very well, but the ending was silly and I kept climbing out of plot holes.
Hope this one is better
Looks like a futuristic Vantage v8.Really looking forward to it, I have to say I'm loving the modern Bond as much as the classic stuff at the moment, long may Daniel Craig reign as 007.
Another new motor for this one, Aston Martin DB10 - limited to just ten cars (plus movie props).
I don't mind Craig--in fact, I don't think whoever the actor is makes much difference now; the films are bigger than any leading man. But I'm not a huge fan of the new films. Partly the stories, partly how over-the-top they are now. It seems like they want to be taken seriously, and at the same time still use all the over-the-top sci-fi gadgets and stage MI6 offices that look like something out of Star Trek.
I especially don't like the way they've used M in the stories (going back to The World Is Not Enough). OK, you've got a great actress playing the character, but nevertheless, M's main function is to send Bond on missions and then give him a kick up the backside about half way through the film. M shouldn't become the fulcrum of the whole film. I was happy to see M cop it at the end of Skyfall, but equally worried that Fiennes will now start to accompany Bond on his missions as some sort of sidekick.
Even Casino Royale--a relatively true-to-the-book movie--was bloated. Cut about 30-45 minutes from it and it would have been a better film.
I recently watched Quantum of Solace for the second time, having first seen it shortly after it was released, and despite it seemingly being the least-liked of the Craig-era films by most people, it's now my favourite. A classic Bond, insomuch as it's Bond going off and saving the world from the bad guys. Nothing too complicated. And I found the fast-cut editing, which was distracting and annoying first time around, wasn't a problem on the second viewing.
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I agree with everything you've said there - nail on the head. You know it's a good film if you can revisit it again and still enjoy it. I can do that with QoS and somewhat with Casino Royale, but I just couldn't be bothered to watch Skyfall twice.
I'm worried about the potential of the Daniel Craig series to mirror that of Pierce Brosnan. Each sequel has to be more and more OTT until you end up with something like Die Another Day - which was like watching a camp cartoon version of Bond.
I am very much looking forwards to spectre, imo Daniel Craig is the best bond in ages.
Loved casino royals. Not keen on QoS, very unbondlike plot and found it quite tedious. Thought skyfall was great and gave some background to the character. Surprise there is so little love for it shown here.
I got into bond via the books initially, I even have a couple of 1st edition Flemings on my bookcase. Flemings bond in my mind is very different to cubby broccolis version.
Some of the connery films were OK but roger moore turned it into a naff comedy.
Flemings bond is a hard living pshyco who relied on wits and (often) bare hands to get the job done.
Prior to Daniel Craig I think George lazenby was the most true to the books. I.e. no stupid gadgets, using his fists and being overtaken by his emotions.
Last edited by jmitch; 12th February 2015 at 21:39.
Can't wait for this one!
I am directly the opposite of others here. Thought Casino Royale was great and Skyfall even better. Both were tremendous Bond films and Daniel Craig is a superb Bond. On the other hand, thought Quantum of Solace was a real miss and easily a distant 3rd place to the other two.
Funny that, I liked Casino Royal, thought QoS was crap and really enjoyed Skyfall. I am a bond fan, I have read all the books a few times, for me Connery will always be the main man.
my thoughts exactly cant wait for the new one
I quite agree re QOS which I watched again the other week. I even like the theme tune - in fact it is now one of my favourites.
I think Craig is just about OK but as I disliked Brosnan and Dalton so much then I guess virtually anyone would have been an improvement.........
I thought Connery was awful in the last two films he made and I am thinking more and more that Lazenby could have been the best Bond had he stuck with it.
The Moore era was highly entertaining in my view - but then I have always liked Carry On films.
Yep pretty much my thoughts.
Looking forward to the release of Spectre.
I liked the fact that Connery aged in the last two bonds, I liked the fact that he played a bit of a dinosaur. Diamonds are Forever is a poor bond but has some great scenes IMO. I love (although not official bond) Never Say Never Again. I guess I just love Connery lol!! One of my first film memories is watching Dr No when I was about 5 years old.I quite agree re QOS which I watched again the other week. I even like the theme tune - in fact it is now one of my favourites.
I think Craig is just about OK but as I disliked Brosnan and Dalton so much then I guess virtually anyone would have been an improvement.........
I thought Connery was awful in the last two films he made and I am thinking more and more that Lazenby could have been the best Bond had he stuck with it.
The Moore era was highly entertaining in my view - but then I have always liked Carry On films.
My growing up era was Moore/Dalton which is why I like those films so much - I can watch any of them again and again. Can't stand any of the Connery films.
Favourite scene is where Roger Moore whips up a quiche for supper in View to a Kill.
Yeah I am 36 now so my era was Moore and onwards, but Connery was always the best IMO. And after reading the books 20 years after first seeing the bond movies, I imagined the character described as the Connery Bond.
Another new motor for this one, Aston Martin DB10 - limited to just ten cars (plus movie props).
From 'backstage' at Blenheim Palace recently:
I think the problem with Skyfall is that they felt they had to add all these "nods" to the old movies because it was an anniversary. I'm hoping that SPECTRE will be more in-line with CS and QoS.
Personally I thought CR was possibly the best Bond movie of them all, it felt slightly stripped back and more in-line with the source material, certainly more than the Moore and Brosnan movies. QoS, while having bad pacing and cinematography (some awful shakey cam and fast cuts), was still a pretty good Bond movie and could have been a fairly decent middle act for a 3-movie story line. Apparently SPECTRE will have Mr White back in it so it could build on CR and QoS, perhaps QoS will become relevant again. Skyfall will hopefully end up being a stand alone movie made as a tribute to the franchise. That would be my vision for the modern Bond movies, anyway.
I am so glad others thought this too. 1&2 DC Bond were better imho.
Going through the books in order at the mo. Currently half way through Diamonds are Forever. Flemings Bond is the better Bond but then I guess it would be wouldn't it.
Was Skiing in Solden last week and they were filming at the top of the mountain. There is a very cool restaurant there, would make an excellent baddies lair......
They will have to go some to match the final line of dialogue in Moonraker
I also grew up watching the Moore (tail end was contemporary--I saw View to a Kill in the cinema) and Connery on TV. Like them both very much and can still watch any of their films.
Recently watched For Your Eyes Only. Now comparing it with any of the DC films isn't apples to apples. I feel the DC films are trying to be somewhat 'real' (thanks to the success--and superiority in terms of the realness and grittiness--of the Bourne films) whereas the Connery and Moore movies were treated as flights of fancy, illustrated for example by the recurrence of the villain's base at the end of each film, despite the whole idea of a massive 'secret base' being quite preposterous.
But that's the formula you bought into when you went to see Bond back then: baddie wants world domination/mass destruction/blackmail of nation-state, Bond sets off to find him, he gets into some fights and car chases, beds some ladies, puts two and two together at some point leading him to the secret base, which gets destroyed and Bond gets the girl. (Similar plot to QoS, may be why I liked it better than the other DC films.)
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