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    Now my four year old son has got into it too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raptor View Post
    Does anyone know if uniqlo selvedge wear true to size?
    Cheers
    My 33" waist, 32" leg selvedge jeans have been excellent. 2yrs old now and still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Maybe we should start a fades thread (so to speak). Here are my Samurais, patched with a piece of a kimono using Sashiko stitching. The Samurais were a limited edition from a little shop in Osaka, that the guy designed with ridges in the back pocket to create wear patterns.
    Looks like a hole not a fade TBH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Looks like a hole not a fade TBH.
    Yes, it is a patched hole. Which started as a fade!

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    New Hiuts

    Well then, fellow denim aficionados, my 2 prs Hiut's have just arrived. I have one pair of Work Selvedge and one pair of Hack Selvedge. I followed the measuring instructions on the site and both pairs fit well, the relaxed fit is more relaxed, and the slim is err, slimmer. So far so good.

    So what happens now?

    Will they stretch?
    They feel pretty comfortable - what's all this about break in?
    Do I need to sit in the bath with them on?
    I ordered 34/32, they come up a bit long in the leg - is that so I can do the turn up thing? If I don't want the turn up, is it socially acceptable to turn them up on the inside?
    It says don't wash them for 6 months. How does that translate into wear-days?
    They're 14.5oz denim, but they don't feel any different to my Nudie's
    Will I be able to walk into Shoreditch and be accepted as an equal, or will the hipsters suss me out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    Well then, fellow denim aficionados, my 2 prs Hiut's have just arrived. I have one pair of Work Selvedge and one pair of Hack Selvedge. I followed the measuring instructions on the site and both pairs fit well, the relaxed fit is more relaxed, and the slim is err, slimmer. So far so good.

    So what happens now?

    Will they stretch?
    They feel pretty comfortable - what's all this about break in?
    Do I need to sit in the bath with them on?
    I ordered 34/32, they come up a bit long in the leg - is that so I can do the turn up thing? If I don't want the turn up, is it socially acceptable to turn them up on the inside?
    It says don't wash them for 6 months. How does that translate into wear-days?
    They're 14.5oz denim, but they don't feel any different to my Nudie's
    Will I be able to walk into Shoreditch and be accepted as an equal, or will the hipsters suss me out?

    Turn ups on the inside? Maybe get them pressed with a nice crease down the middle while you are at it? :-)

    Turning them under looks like a solicitor on dress down Friday, apologies if you are a solicitor.

    They will stretch out a bit with wear but shrink back a little on their first wash. Leave it as long as you can before first wash, watch out for transfer of indigo onto furnishings and other clothes but I doubt Hiut overdye massively.
    If they are overlong you can get them shortened and chain stitched but do that after any shrinkage, I just roll the turn up.

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    Solicitors have to wear chinos on dress down Fridays....

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    It says don't wash them for 6 months. How does that translate into wear-days?
    I never wash any of my jeans although I usually wear Carhartt which is a very different price point but same applies with the odd Evisu, RL and Diesel pairs I own.

    Maybe that's the Irish farmer in my DNA and not so much the Zone 1 trendy?

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    Just stumbled across this thread and wish Iíd found it sooner.

    Can I get some denim advice please.

    Iíve bought Nudie jeans for the last 8 years but would like to try something a bit different. Iím London based for work and Iíve done some research and it looks like Son of a stag and Rivet and hide are 2 specialist stores that do a wide range of Japanese denim.

    Has anyone been to these stores or are there others I should consider?

    Are there any brands I should look out for?

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    Just bought these from Rivet & Hide in London.

    Really friendly staff and pure denim porn




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    Excellent choice! Momotaro jeans are so well made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Excellent choice! Momotaro jeans are so well made.
    Iíve only worn Nudie jeans for the last few years and these are definitely a step up in fit and quality


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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    Well then, fellow denim aficionados, my 2 prs Hiut's have just arrived. I have one pair of Work Selvedge and one pair of Hack Selvedge. I followed the measuring instructions on the site and both pairs fit well, the relaxed fit is more relaxed, and the slim is err, slimmer. So far so good.

    So what happens now?

    Will they stretch?
    They feel pretty comfortable - what's all this about break in?
    Do I need to sit in the bath with them on?
    I ordered 34/32, they come up a bit long in the leg - is that so I can do the turn up thing? If I don't want the turn up, is it socially acceptable to turn them up on the inside?
    It says don't wash them for 6 months. How does that translate into wear-days?
    They're 14.5oz denim, but they don't feel any different to my Nudie's
    Will I be able to walk into Shoreditch and be accepted as an equal, or will the hipsters suss me out?
    I refer the honourable gentleman to this thread...

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...9&share_type=t

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    I donít like the sound of this not washing business


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    Quote Originally Posted by David r View Post
    Just bought these from Rivet & Hide in London.

    Really friendly staff and pure denim porn


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    That label sown across the angled seam would do my head in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maris View Post
    That label sown across the angled seam would do my head in.
    Yes, doesnít have to be rectangular!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amnesia View Post
    I refer the honourable gentleman to this thread...

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...9&share_type=t

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    Thanks - I see thats had a thread resurrection. So far so good, but it's only a week or so. The freezer is full of cat meat so I'm not sure I'll find space, but maybe airing them on the line will help, but no bad niff so far.

    On a non Jean but cool British gear front, anyone tried the HebTroCo? Might try a pair of the black canvas as a change from jeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    Thanks - I see thats had a thread resurrection. So far so good, but it's only a week or so. The freezer is full of cat meat so I'm not sure I'll find space, but maybe airing them on the line will help, but no bad niff so far.

    On a non Jean but cool British gear front, anyone tried the HebTroCo? Might try a pair of the black canvas as a change from jeans.
    I like the style. They look black but it says dark navy. Like the tan ones, although I already have some similar Momotaro ones that I love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    Thanks - I see thats had a thread resurrection. So far so good, but it's only a week or so. The freezer is full of cat meat so I'm not sure I'll find space, but maybe airing them on the line will help, but no bad niff so far.

    On a non Jean but cool British gear front, anyone tried the HebTroCo? Might try a pair of the black canvas as a change from jeans.
    Yeah i have quite a few pairs of hebtroco 👍
    And now my weight lose means they are getting a bit big 😔

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattH View Post
    Yeah i have quite a few pairs of hebtroco
    And now my weight lose means they are getting a bit big
    Ah annoying when that happens! What's the quality like? I like the straight fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Ah annoying when that happens! What's the quality like? I like the straight fit.
    annoying in a good way, though. I like the look of the moleskins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    annoying in a good way, though. I like the look of the moleskins.
    Yes, I k ow just what you mean, I had a belt custom made for me with the right hole perfectly centred just before I lost a load of weight and now am wearing it comfortably on a hole tighter.

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    Quality is excellent.... got the

    Moleskins
    Cords
    Dark blue older guvnor canvas
    New stone canvas jeans
    Chinos

    hmm writing that down was a bad idea... hence why i am annoyed as all are a bit big now.....

    Have both straight cut and tapered.. lovely fit and well put together.
    Reality sizing not vanity..
    Also have the cord shirt/tshirts etc - very much a favourite shop
    of mine now. Nice guys as well trying to put british manufacture
    back on the map !

    cheers

    matt
    Last edited by MattH; 23rd March 2019 at 21:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berin View Post
    Well then, fellow denim aficionados, my 2 prs Hiut's have just arrived. I have one pair of Work Selvedge and one pair of Hack Selvedge. I followed the measuring instructions on the site and both pairs fit well, the relaxed fit is more relaxed, and the slim is err, slimmer. So far so good.

    So what happens now?
    Iíll be interested to hear how the pockets hold up. I had three pair, and the pockets needed darned in no time at all. Twice each. I carry some loose change in my pockets, and it devoured the pockets.

    Ok, they were fixed for free, but they went again in no time.

    Such a shame as the jeans looked great, but that finished me with Hiut.

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    What size are they all Matt? Looked at the website and it looks good stuff, might go to the open day next weekend but nothing like trying some second hand stuff first ;)


    Quote Originally Posted by MattH View Post
    Quality is excellent.... got the

    Moleskins
    Cords
    Dark blue older guvnor canvas
    New stone canvas jeans
    Chinos

    hmm writing that down was a bad idea... hence why i am annoyed as all are a bit big now.....

    Have both straight cut and tapered.. lovely fit and well put together.
    Reality sizing not vanity..
    Also have the cord shirt/tshirts etc - very much a favourite shop
    of mine now. Nice guys as well trying to put british manufacture
    back on the map !

    cheers

    matt

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    38Ē either 30 or 32 leg.

    True 38 with a tape measure 😂

    Cheers

    matt

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    Iím about to get my first pair of selvedge jeans but how do you stop any bleed into trainers, furniture and everything in between


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    Quote Originally Posted by comdiver View Post
    Iím about to get my first pair of selvedge jeans but how do you stop any bleed into trainers, furniture and everything in between


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    With difficulty. Your hands will be blue too but they do 'calm down' after a while. Try to resist resorting to washing them too soon (if raw denim).

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    So donít wear anything white then


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    I started this thread over four years ago with the pair you can see at post #11.

    This is them today:




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    Good fades! Especially the front.

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    G-star raw denim on Amazon deal of the day today. No idea of the quality but for £25 Iíll take a punt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Maybe we should start a fades thread (so to speak). Here are my Samurais, patched with a piece of a kimono using Sashiko stitching. The Samurais were a limited edition from a little shop in Osaka, that the guy designed with ridges in the back pocket to create wear patterns.
    Inspired by this image I found myself, for the first time in about 30 years, with a needle and thread in hand making an attempt at a rustic style sashiko repair in a couple of kness that have seen better days after crawling around after my toddler! HAve to say that the first one is a bit sketchy, but I am legit pleased with my second attempt and can see this being wuite an addictive thing to get into!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I started this thread over four years ago with the pair you can see at post #11.

    This is them today:


    Are they a tad.........long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashtennisguru View Post
    Inspired by this image I found myself, for the first time in about 30 years, with a needle and thread in hand making an attempt at a rustic style sashiko repair in a couple of kness that have seen better days after crawling around after my toddler! HAve to say that the first one is a bit sketchy, but I am legit pleased with my second attempt and can see this being wuite an addictive thing to get into!
    Nice, looking forward to seeing photos!

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    Am I missing something? They all look like jeans usually do. If they have holes in them I would throw them away and surely by fades you mean starting to wear out.

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    Theyíre meant to be long so they can be worn with turn-ups as shown.

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    Are they a tad.........long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Theyíre meant to be long so they can be worn with turn-ups as shown.
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    I do have other pairs that are the right length but this pair were bought to wear like this.

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    Blimey 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODP View Post
    Am I missing something? They all look like jeans usually do. If they have holes in them I would throw them away and surely by fades you mean starting to wear out.
    Loads of information if you read the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Nice, looking forward to seeing photos!
    Well, you did ask!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ODP View Post
    Am I missing something? They all look like jeans usually do. If they have holes in them I would throw them away and surely by fades you mean starting to wear out.
    Yes. About 200+ posts. The entire thread. Thank you for the contribution though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I started this thread over four years ago with the pair you can see at post #11.

    This is them today:


    Do you keep a note of how many washes theyíve been through? I canít see the original images (blurred out by PB), but looking at the fade pattern (very light honeycombs) I assume they are washed rather than a dry selvedge?
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    This pair weren't dry. They're also not selvedge as I don't pay the premium for a bit of tape/ribbon stitched inside. I washed them twice in the first 18 months but they've been washed quite a few times since then.

    I have a dry pair that I've had for a couple of years and they're fading differently. Dry are quite good but the amount starch added to them can be really high in some instances and can result in them bleeding a brown, sticky substance (starch) if they get a good drenching in the rain. Hasn't happened to me but I'm aware of it happening.

    So if I was to buy dry again I'd probably soak them to remove a lot of the starch (turns the bath water brown) which kind of defeats the object, doesn't it?

    I don't think I'll be buying jeans for a good while but I might try Edwin again next time as I think the quality of Nudie isn't what it once was.

    Quote Originally Posted by VDG View Post
    Do you keep a note of how many washes theyíve been through? I canít see the original images (blurred out by PB), but looking at the fade pattern (very light honeycombs) I assume they are washed rather than a dry selvedge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    This pair weren't dry. They're also not selvedge as I don't pay the premium for a bit of tape/ribbon stitched inside.
    Not how selvedge denim works. This article shows how and why there's a price premium. Although some manufacturers do take extreme liberties.

    https://toddshelton.com/blog/product.../selvage-denim

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    Extracted from that article....

    Ēthere may be many questions concerning the differences between selvedge and non-selvedge denim. One is not superior to the other in terms of quality and longevity. Moreover, the cotton and the dyeing processes used for selvedge are not necessarily different than those used for non-selvedge. In question of comfort, non-selvedge may offer somewhat more flexibility in fabric. However, selvedge is undeniably more desirable and attractive....Ē

    So selvedge isnít higher quality or dyed differently, just woven differently and fashionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Extracted from that article....

    Ēthere may be many questions concerning the differences between selvedge and non-selvedge denim. One is not superior to the other in terms of quality and longevity. Moreover, the cotton and the dyeing processes used for selvedge are not necessarily different than those used for non-selvedge. In question of comfort, non-selvedge may offer somewhat more flexibility in fabric. However, selvedge is undeniably more desirable and attractive....Ē

    So selvedge isnít higher quality or dyed differently, just woven differently and fashionable.
    It depends on who makes it. Like watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashtennisguru View Post
    Well, you did ask!

    Neat work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    This pair weren't dry. They're also not selvedge as I don't pay the premium for a bit of tape/ribbon stitched inside. I washed them twice in the first 18 months but they've been washed quite a few times since then.

    I have a dry pair that I've had for a couple of years and they're fading differently. Dry are quite good but the amount starch added to them can be really high in some instances and can result in them bleeding a brown, sticky substance (starch) if they get a good drenching in the rain. Hasn't happened to me but I'm aware of it happening.

    So if I was to buy dry again I'd probably soak them to remove a lot of the starch (turns the bath water brown) which kind of defeats the object, doesn't it?

    I don't think I'll be buying jeans for a good while but I might try Edwin again next time as I think the quality of Nudie isn't what it once was.
    Cheers, I never heard of manufacturers adding starch to a dry selvedge, well at least not the likes of Cone Mills or Japanese producers. Iím aware though that some people starch their jeans to get crispier whiskers/honeycombs which is another matter and a completely separate topic. Dry, unsanforised denim will bleed indigo, and if itís an natural one it may contain impurities which can be perceived as brown I suppose but never sticky. May be itís a crotch and arse gunk/cheese if they been worn for a few months before they got soaked/washed? ;)

    Also, if itís not a pair of selvedge jeans turning the bottoms up is totally defeats the purpose IMO since itís done to show off the selvedge edge and signal to the fellow denim aficionados what youíve got, well in addition of cause to wear them as it was done when jeans were just a Ďtoolí pants made out of dry selvedge denim as no other kind of denim was available at the time.. :))
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    This pair weren't dry. They're also not selvedge as I don't pay the premium for a bit of tape/ribbon stitched inside. I washed them twice in the first 18 months but they've been washed quite a few times since then.

    I have a dry pair that I've had for a couple of years and they're fading differently. Dry are quite good but the amount starch added to them can be really high in some instances and can result in them bleeding a brown, sticky substance (starch) if they get a good drenching in the rain. Hasn't happened to me but I'm aware of it happening.

    So if I was to buy dry again I'd probably soak them to remove a lot of the starch (turns the bath water brown) which kind of defeats the object, doesn't it?

    I don't think I'll be buying jeans for a good while but I might try Edwin again next time as I think the quality of Nudie isn't what it once was.
    "washed them twice in the first 18 months" How often do you wear them? Must be pretty grubby by the time they get washed!
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