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    Jeans Thread

    On the back of a couple of related threads I've started to take an interest in denim this year, or more specifically, jeans.

    I've always loved a good pair of jeans and have been buying labels (Paul Smith, Armani, Levi etc) for the last 20-odd years thinking they were the best denim to buy but wondering why none of them really fit me as well as I'd hoped.

    I know there are proper denim geeks out there and I'm not remotely one of those but, having bought my first pair of jeans possibly ever that genuinely fit me, I now see what the fuss is about.

    So I wondered if there would be the appetite for a thread where people could post pics of their new pair and then update pics at intervals during the breaking in period?

    If there is then I'll start it off with pics of my Nudie Steady Eddies that are now two weeks into that process and getting more and more comfortable by the day. They're an 11.5oz dry organic denim that I intend to wear for at least 6 months before washing them for the first time.

    I find the wearing-in and fading process fascinating in respect of every pair will wear and fade differently based on the shape and usage of the owner.

    So, any interest?

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    This could be interesting.

    I have always been a fan of Levi 501, which I enjoy more as they get faded and worn
    I have also found great comfort on Tommy Hilfiger jeans but don't find them as durable as their Levi counterparts

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    I bought two pairs of Hiut's in April this year, one Hacka and one Works. I alternate between them each day and so far so good on the breaking in process. Love their fit and will probably try to go longer than 6 months, or 12 months due to having two new pairs, before I do the first wash.

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    Is the search function not working?

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    Great idea, I hopped on the bandwagon with Hiut in April too, I have a pair of Hack Organics.

    I wore them almost daily (albeit often only in the evening after work) for 6 months before the first wash, and am now waiting for the next on the first aniversary.

    I have some photos knocking around somewhere and also some video; I really wanted to document the process even if only for my interest. I haven't edited the washing video together because it is rather dull and the fades weren't that notable. I was a little disheartened at the time, but they seemed to get stronger quite quickly after this first wash.

    One thing to note, is that raw denim feels very stiff to begin with but not only breaks in but also does stretch. So do consider buying small or tight jeans as these I think will end up fitting best. My Hiuts are 33 waist, but are now needing a belt, I am looking for a slimmer cut and also downsizing on my next purchase, probably the modestly priced Levi's 511 Selvage in 32.

    If you want serious fades, check out "swissjeansfreak" on instagram; quite loopy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post

    So I wondered if there would be the appetite for a thread where people could post pics of their new pair and then update pics at intervals during the breaking in period?

    If there is then I'll start it off with pics of my Nudie Steady Eddies that are now two weeks into that process and getting more and more comfortable by the day. They're an 11.5oz dry organic denim that I intend to wear for at least 6 months before washing them for the first time.

    I find the wearing-in and fading process fascinating in respect of every pair will wear and fade differently based on the shape and usage of the owner.

    So, any interest?

    David
    You wont need 6 months to break 11oz its a 30 day job, I find that 14.75oz take 3-4 months and 16-17oz about 6-9 months depending on how worn. Im about 2 months in on a pair of 14.75oz Tellasons that Ive worn 50 or so days total, slowly getting there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopdong View Post

    One thing to note, is that raw denim feels very stiff to begin with but not only breaks in but also does stretch. So do consider buying small or tight jeans as these I think will end up fitting best.
    I did that this time, I'm usually a 33 or 34 waist and this time bought a 32 which were snug at first but are now loosening up nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    You wont need 6 months to break 11oz its a 30 day job,
    I only tend to wear mine at weekends as I'm suited through the week so 6 months feels about right at twice weekly wear.

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    Oh Christ here we go again with the denim thread, 300 pair of jeans anyone?

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    I am very fussy about my jeans - live in them. For most of my life it had to be zip fly Levi. No other brand would do. But, in recent years, my shape has changed (not for the better I might add!) and it now has to be Wrangler Texas Stretch which are just incredibly comfortable and fit me perfectly :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Oh Christ here we go again with the denim thread, 300 pair of jeans anyone?
    Not at all, my Nudies were 89. And I don't recall anyone saying "oh Christ here we go again with the watch thread, 5k watch anyone?"

    Double standards for sure.

    Anyway, I started this thread so here are mine with 10 days worth of wear and they were very stiff on day one. I'll be back after three months with an update:







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    Does everyone avoid washing their premium denim?

    Whilst I appreciate a general faded look I can't stand the creased knees etc which to me just look scruffy. Just old I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Does everyone avoid washing their premium denim?
    Yes. Marks can be (mostly) dry rubbed away. If you want to wash them then wash cold with no detergent, unless of course they smell rank and then just wash them with detergent.

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    Always used to be Levi 501's.........Now it is Wrangler Texas (Non stretch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Yes. Marks can be (mostly) dry rubbed away. If you want to wash them then wash cold with no detergent, unless of course they smell rank and then just wash them with detergent.
    Yes, realise that there are alternatives (including the freezer) but wondered if everyone likes the creased look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Oh Christ here we go again with the denim thread, 300 pair of jeans anyone?
    Put your can of special brew down and go to bed. It will stop you spoiling threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Yes, realise that there are alternatives (including the freezer) but wondered if everyone likes the creased look.
    Sorry, yes I do like the creased look.

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    I usually buy Diesel or Replay but still love Gstar. At 43 is my time limited ?
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    The main attraction of raw denim is the fades coupled with the enhanced fit, I have a pair that haven't ever been washed, they are a bit rank but a night in the freezer usually makes them bearable again to wear on the bike etc.

    Regarding the comment by number 2 please bore off if you have something useful to say then please contribute but dont do what you always do and what is arguably ruining this forum and hit the 'negative troll' button everytime you are bored, people spend what they like on what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFB Scotland View Post
    I buy usually Diesel or Replay but still love Gstar. At 43 is my time limited ?
    I discovered raw denim at 42 so join the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I discovered raw denim at 42 so join the club
    Will try and keep my converse/ jeans combo going at weekends. Through the week boring suits :)

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    Not fancy the challenge of some 25oz Samurais?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Not fancy the challenge of some 25oz Samurais?
    If they fit me well enough I'd be up for it.

    I had a pair of Carhartt full-front-double-trap 18oz'ers a few years ago (10 years ago) and I loved them. I was talking to the owner of the place I get my jeans from (indy denim specialist in Newcastle) and he doesn't even remember having them in it was so long ago. I wore them until they fell apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFB Scotland View Post
    Put your can of special brew down and go to bed. It will stop you spoiling threads.
    I'm assuming you don't know how the search function works

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=jeans


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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    I'm assuming you don't know how the search function works

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ighlight=jeans

    If you actually read your linked thread and then my original post here you'll see that intentions are very different.

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    I would love a decent pair of heavy jeans, all the ones I seem to find in the normal shops seem really flimsy.
    Where do you guys buy your jeans from, specialists/online etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weirdfish View Post
    I would love a decent pair of heavy jeans, all the ones I seem to find in the normal shops seem really flimsy.
    Where do you guys buy your jeans from, specialists/online etc etc.
    That is what the link in the post above is for. This thread is to swap pictures of jeans that haven't been washed for 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weirdfish View Post
    I would love a decent pair of heavy jeans, all the ones I seem to find in the normal shops seem really flimsy.
    Where do you guys buy your jeans from, specialists/online etc etc.
    Denim specialists are best but that doesn't mean they have to be silly-expensive. I use Union in Newcastle which has been a denim specialist under the same ownership for as long as I can remember and the guys really know what they're talking about. I've found that it's virtually impossible to buy the right jeans online as you have to try them on and take advice about stretch, fit etc. They have an online store but their advice is to try before you buy.

    For example when I bought the pair I'm wearing today I must have tried more than a dozen on, taking the advice of the shop-dude where I needed it. It really is worth the effort though.

    Hope this helps.

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    love the idea but a few things put me off

    don't mind greases on the bike but if im going out 1/2 decent they look terrible

    also with these jeans do they not get knees in when not washed or are they ok being thicker denim ?

    also I go commando as I hate my nuts being twisted and tight ( unfeasibly large testicles) lol

    do they not stink after 6 months ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragerover View Post

    also I go commando as I hate my nuts being twisted and tight ( unfeasibly large testicles) lol

    do they not stink after 6 months ??
    They will if you go commando, your sack and crack touching cloth all day.

    Wear some undercrackers dirty boy

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    I've got some hiuts - 2 selvedge (regular fit) denim and a couple of pairs of organic (1 slim, one regular). In fact I have two pairs from their very first batches... (ooooooh).

    My current faves are the slim fit. And I was pondering getting the selvedge version. But will probably wait.

    Very impressed with them and their customer service. The 'free repairs for life' is ace - and I've already benefitted from it.

    They're probably are many other makers jeans I'd like - but having found one that fits, I can't be bothered to try any others....yet :)

    obviously not one to follow fashion.....but I need to save for my redwing boots :)
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    Recently obtained a pair of 1955 Levi 501's and Edwin 39 Regular's which were fairly hard work, I also found a pair of Over Works Factory which are made by Edwin and they are just so super soft. Spend a long time looking to find some jeans I liked the fit of, I don't really care if others say they don't fit. I like my space for some 'men's movement' if you know what I mean.

    I've owned Diesel, other Levi's and a few other brands, but usually end up getting multiple pairs when I'm over in the US.

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    Okay, Ill start by saying I very rarely wear jeans (more a chino wearer) so dont really get the whole denim thing.

    But when you chaps dont wash them for months on end what are you aiming to achieve - is this all about the way they fade (or dont if not washed) or something else?

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    I bought a pair of Gustin 18oz slim fit denim jeans a few month ago. These are true to size so don't try to go small. They are quite hard work for the first times you wear them but they're just bedding in now and starting to take shape. Ive usually bought Edwin which are a really nice denim

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    I was given a pair of Edwins last year and they are by far the best jeans I have ever had, lovely and comfy and fit perfectly.

    I also have some Momotaros and recently added a pair of Nudie jeans. Another new convert to '300 quid' raw selvedge etc.

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    I've never worn anything except US made Levis, which I can usually pick up from eBay or Etsy for 10-30. I've just found a pair of new with tags Orange Tab 505s, and the first thing I'll be doing is washing them. None of this walking round with cardboard legs/putting in the freezer for six months for me.

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    I've just received a pair of Uniqlo's raw selvedge Japanese denim jeans.
    Not had much wear as yet so can't comment on how well they break in. They are a fantastic fit on me but do have a low rise. http://www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/130083

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Stoat View Post
    Okay, Ill start by saying I very rarely wear jeans (more a chino wearer) so dont really get the whole denim thing.

    But when you chaps dont wash them for months on end what are you aiming to achieve - is this all about the way they fade (or dont if not washed) or something else?
    By not washing the jeans you are preserving the colour to obtain a good contrast between the areas that get worn out and those that don't. The starch in the material also encourages creasing, again giving greater contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davida View Post
    By not washing the jeans you are preserving the colour to obtain a good contrast between the areas that get worn out and those that don't. The starch in the material also encourages creasing, again giving greater contrast.
    What he said ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Not fancy the challenge of some 25oz Samurais?
    Have you tried Iron Hearts Kerry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Have you tried Iron Hearts Kerry?
    I've got some Samurai jeans I bought in Japan, I've been wearing them I'm for about a year and a half now with two washes, heavy and slubby. Comfortable now they have been broken in with some decent fades.

    Also have some Momotaro smarter jeans that I also got in Japan, hand made with a pink selvedge and inner leg line. Smoother cotton (the chap in the shop said Zimbabwean instead of the rougher Texan) and they're quite smart by comparison to the Samurai ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Have you tried Iron Hearts Kerry?
    No, I did Edwins back in the day and indeed Diesel were once ok but I am a massive fan of Tellason Jeans and I appreciate the weave and cut of Oni as they are almost like Tweed its that raw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    No, I did Edwins back in the day and indeed Diesel were once ok but I am a massive fan of Tellason Jeans and I appreciate the weave and cut of Oni as they are almost like Tweed its that raw.
    I love the Tellason 12.5oz jean jacket and at 169 it's what you'd pay on the high street from someone like Armani or Boss.

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    Like the idea of raw denim but the reports of getting the sizing and shrinkage wrong puts me off when I'm forking out that sort of money.

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    I agree that the sizing thing can be off putting but with the distance selling rules, you can order what you fancy and if they don't fit, the retailer is legally bound to refund your money provided you return the goods within 10 days (I think) of receipt. Yes you might have the hassle of parcelling them back up and paying a bit of postage but if you live somewhere which doesn't have a selection of raw denim available, it is your best choice.

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    I'm guessing if modern selvedge is still shrink-fit that you have to walk about in jeans two sizes too big?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo697 View Post
    I'm guessing if modern selvedge is still shrink-fit that you have to walk about in jeans two sizes too big?
    They vary. Manufacturers will tell you if they're sanforized or unsaforized.

    I'm a big fan of Edwin and Nudie. Still breaking in my latest pair of Edwin selvage ED-55's. It takes a while seeing as I don't wear them that often.

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    A lot depends on whether you want jeans to fit you or are just happy to wear them regardless. I've not got much of an arse (although I'm told it's perfectly formed ) so jeans tend to reveal a bit of crack once they're worn in if I'm not careful.

    When I bought this pair of Nudie I actually went in for the Edwin ED-55s purely based on the feel, cut and weight. But try as I might I cannot get a pair of Edwin to fit me well enough, or any other brand other than Nudie for that matter. Nudie seem to be more about fit than other brands and offer more fit options. I need jeans with a higher back pocket and yolk to sit much higher around the bottom of my back and these Steady Eddies are the best I've ever owned.

    I know you're thinking Simon Cowell jeans!

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    Has anyone tried Lawless Jeans? I saw they are apparently doing 50% off with the code: blackfriday2014

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