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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    A declared black Abbot or Blabbot as it is known is pointless as we are stiill waiting for the results from the breath holding, in the meantime may I suggest that a Barnfathers Titan is declared if any such shenanigans is being considered being called.
    You may recall that Barnfathers Titan was declared not once but twice in the now infamous Waltham St Lawrence match of 1986 under similar circumstances. The celebrity judge, Russell Harty made a right arse of proceedings by declaring a Black Abbot on the basis that Loughton was at the time owned by the MOD. A school boy error and a good reason that these 'gifted amateurs' should not be allowed to officiate at matches. Dont even get me started on the David Bowie fiasco at Slough in 1990. The mans a menace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    You may recall that Barnfathers Titan was declared not once but twice in the now infamous Waltham St Lawrence match of 1986 under similar circumstances. The celebrity judge, Russell Harty made a right arse of proceedings by declaring a Black Abbot on the basis that Loughton was at the time owned by the MOD. A school boy error and a good reason that these 'gifted amateurs' should not be allowed to officiate at matches. Dont even get me started on the David Bowie fiasco at Slough in 1990. The mans a menace.
    His insistence of "dancing in the street" didn't win him many fans that day I can tell you, really he should of been banned for life but thanks to Molly Bloody Sugden we are now blighted by his presence still.

    Seeing as there is now a call for the "original variations rule" I'm calling Mornington Crescent.

    Before we start again could we PLEASE make it clear to all parties what rule we will be using as there seems to be some confusion.

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    I need a new telescope so have just got off at WIMBLEDON … and we are using the Sir Joseph Hood rules

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    Sir Joseph Hoods rule!!




    This will get messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    His insistence of "dancing in the street" didn't win him many fans that day I can tell you, really he should of been banned for life but thanks to Molly Bloody Sugden we are now blighted by his presence still.

    Seeing as there is now a call for the "original variations rule" I'm calling Mornington Crescent.

    Before we start again could we PLEASE make it clear to all parties what rule we will be using as there seems to be some confusion.
    Although there has been some confusion, the OP nonetheless stated Cornish rules so the Invicta Precedent states we must continue following the 1st stated rules. Since there have not been a prime number of moves since the start, then Mornington Crescent can't be played at this juncture. In fairness it would have been a masterstroke move had we been playing with the Daughter's Variation of Cornish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caruso View Post
    Although there has been some confusion, the OP nonetheless stated Cornish rules so the Invicta Precedent states we must continue following the 1st stated rules. Since there have not been a prime number of moves since the start, then Mornington Crescent can't be played at this juncture. In fairness it would have been a masterstroke move had we been playing with the Daughter's Variation of Cornish.
    The cornish rules are not a good idea on a non Mornington specialist forum such as this as there could be confusion over the triple lays and chalk straws - remember there are some beginners here.

    Just my opinion of course - how about changing play to the Leonard Sachs variation?

    Just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caruso View Post
    Although there has been some confusion, the OP nonetheless stated Cornish rules so the Invicta Precedent states we must continue following the 1st stated rules. Since there have not been a prime number of moves since the start, then Mornington Crescent can't be played at this juncture. In fairness it would have been a masterstroke move had we been playing with the Daughter's Variation of Cornish.
    A natural assumption was made that we were indeed playing the daughters variation, I have yet to witness a match with 3, repeat 3 reverse Dutch steamboats where Daughters variation was not being played. I feel foolish sir, foolish, a massive oversight on my part to call Mornington Crescent so early in the game. Do I have to carry out the forfeit.....please as this is my first offence this season please can I take the usually punishment of 3 passes without wibble?

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    For the love of Brandreth's bouffant how did we get so off topic?
    One early evening snooze and it's descended into something akin to kittens in a creamery whilst I was away.
    No more talk of forfeits during the implied 256 turn probation period of any non-specialist forum game started under Cornish (with or w/o daughters) rules.
    Let's right the ship with a steady "mind the gap" at Chalk Farm.
    Johnny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    Do I have to carry out the forfeit.....please as this is my first offence this season please can I take the usually punishment of 3 passes without wibble?
    Unfortunately, 3 passes without wibble could only permissible under these lax rules (that neither comply fully with either Cornwall or South Devon III, Totnes or Bewley, according to King James III gazumphing), if you go "dancing in the street" with the aforementioned "Bowie" creature, and provided that the particular streets are all danced in; "Baker Street" (you may also have Gerry Rafferty as a dancing partner, "Cannon Street" (you may also take Tommy Cannon), "Goodge street", "Great Portland Street, "High Street Kensington", "Liverpool Street", "Old Street" and lastly but by no means leastly, "Warren Street".

    This leads me to my move. I put forth.... Totteridge and Whetstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinShepherd View Post
    Unfortunately, 3 passes without wibble could only permissible under these lax rules (that neither comply fully with either Cornwall or South Devon III, Totnes or Bewley, according to King James III gazumphing), if you go "dancing in the street" with the aforementioned "Bowie" creature, and provided that the particular streets are all danced in; "Baker Street" (you may also have Gerry Rafferty as a dancing partner, "Cannon Street" (you may also take Tommy Cannon), "Goodge street", "Great Portland Street, "High Street Kensington", "Liverpool Street", "Old Street" and lastly but by no means leastly, "Warren Street".

    This leads me to my move. I put forth.... Totteridge and Whetstone.
    Phew and so close to midnight as well.

    Given that time, 3/4 to the hour of midnight my only choice at this late juncture is Heathrow Terminal 5. Why not terminals 1-3 I hear you ask? Well for those of us playing via Ackerman you will see that Southall to Ealing Broadway is shut so your only choice is the circle line OR quite frankly the insanely stupid Hammersmith and city Line ******throws his cape Wildly over his left shoulder and bids you goodnight*********

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    I think you have overlooked the diagonals, which would permit the option of using the East London Line, so I will go with Denmark Hill, which reverses the order of play as I am sure you are well aware (unless you can throw a double six).

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    Ah ha! No one noticed, or asked if, I was wearing a shropshire flannelling when I played last.

    Well now I can reveal I was!

    So based on precedent from the 1987 international Mornington Crescent championship where Alfred Fotheringay, the dear, departed sage of the game, played his most famous master stroke to beat his arch nemesis Gerald 'Evening All' Peel in that thrilling third round match-you know the one, where play was delayed for four weeks while the controversy over Rule 4 was sorted out, and which eventually led to the schism within the World Mornington Crescent Overseers And Judiciary Board, setting the scene for the 'lost decade' when leadership within the game was nonexistent and all victories during the period were later declared null and void because of the introduction at that time of the Los Angeles scoring system, you remember-and where Alf's use of a shropshire flannelling was instrumental in his then-shocking overhand tunnelling move from Lords Lane to Mersey Basset East, which many agree won him the match, my next move is Bottomly Downs.

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    Arguing about rules is just a distraction.

    Which is fine by me, because it gives me time to do a double block at Sloane Square, which moves me to South Ken and on to the Piccadilly line.

    Yessssss....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinShepherd View Post
    Unfortunately, 3 passes without wibble could only permissible under these lax rules (that neither comply fully with either Cornwall or South Devon III, Totnes or Bewley, according to King James III gazumphing), if you go "dancing in the street" with the aforementioned "Bowie" creature, and provided that the particular streets are all danced in; "Baker Street" (you may also have Gerry Rafferty as a dancing partner, "Cannon Street" (you may also take Tommy Cannon), "Goodge street", "Great Portland Street, "High Street Kensington", "Liverpool Street", "Old Street" and lastly but by no means leastly, "Warren Street".

    This leads me to my move. I put forth.... Totteridge and Whetstone.
    Totteridge and Whetstone??

    Audacious. Reckless even.

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    I know I can play the Cour de Knacker card only once. Hendon Central.

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    Mmmhh.... Henson Central.... Sneaky

    I am going to block your rouse with a swift change of tracks to pimlico... I believe the duke of Devonshire fell into the trap you were trying to set in 1712. He was "indisposed" for three whole days after that traumatic experience...

    So... Pimlico

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    At the risk of sounding like a pedant, there has been NO mention of the Frumpington Farthing Adoption being in play, so I'm switching things up:
    Heron's Quay
    Johnny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jchlu View Post
    At the risk of sounding like a pedant, there has been NO mention of the Frumpington Farthing Adoption being in play, so I'm switching things up:
    Heron's Quay
    Johnny.
    Well this allows me the precise and perfect entry I have been waiting for. Under Cornish rules, the FFA, unless I'm very much mistaken, allows the famous Glamptonbury Sequential move. Controversial perhaps. But it takes us out of Cornish rules into Devonian ones, and with that, I find myself at Moor Park.

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    Well, the tumbleweed has certainly blown through. I'd heard talk of a bus replacement service on some lines today, perhaps that's responsible.
    I'd hate to see such a promising round wither on the vine, so I'm proposing a Tri-cornered Singapore Reversal, opening up any move outlawed during the Plantegenet Revival Adjudication of 1987.
    That should breathe new life into the olde girl eh?
    With new-found vigour and a jaunty spring in my step I shall alight at: Bayswater...

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    Using Singapore Reversal rules, whether tri-cornered or otherwise, I don't believe you can move to a non interchange station such as Bayswater from a zone 6/7 Metropolitan line station. Don't be fooled by the fact that the underground map shows it as being on the district and circle lines, many novices have been caught out by that one (as well as more than a few of the more experienced players who should really know better).


    So on the basis that Bayswater was a foul call then I shall go for Ickenham.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Using Singapore Reversal rules, whether tri-cornered or otherwise, I don't believe you can move to a non interchange station such as Bayswater from a zone 6/7 Metropolitan line station. Don't be fooled by the fact that the underground map shows it as being on the district and circle lines, many novices have been caught out by that one (as well as more than a few of the more experienced players who should really know better).


    So on the basis that Bayswater was a foul call then I shall go for Ickenham.

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    How foolish, hoist by my own petard, I have just infringed the same Singapore Reversal rules as the previous poster by moving to a non interchange station from a zone 6/7 Metropolitan line station. I feel so foolish.

    I have no idea where we stand now. Does anyone know of a precedent for this?

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    Mornington Crescent

    Quote Originally Posted by smoz View Post
    How foolish, hoist by my own petard, I have just infringed the same Singapore Reversal rules as the previous poster by moving to a non interchange station from a zone 6/7 Metropolitan line station. I feel so foolish.

    I have no idea where we stand now. Does anyone know of a precedent for this?
    Well well smoz old boy, while I appreciate you have correctly identified that you yourself contravened SR regulations, we need not worry as to where we stand: Bayswater.
    "Why?" I hear to cry?
    Because, Sir, you were hasty in deeming my move illegal! I agree wholeheartedly in your premise that non-interchange stations are void in this situation were it not for the simple fact, according to the Orkneyford Rules Peer Review Symposium of 2003:
    "Any station, which when travelling in either direction, is met at the next immediate stop by an interchange station [i.e. regardless of direction of travel an interchange is within one stop] that station shall be considered itself an interchange for the purposes of gameplay"
    As I'm sure a gentleman of your experience will know from memory, Bayswater's adjacent stations are Paddington and Notting Hill Gate, both interchanges in their own right.
    I trust we can continue in agreement, however, should anyone feel this round should continue "under protest" awaiting independent verification I'll not be offended.
    As you were - Bayswater
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    Bayswater...

    That's a tough one. Almost certainly spoon.

    To avoid it, last night I had a chat with a couple of friends at GCHQ who asked one of their tame techies on the Special Projects side to knock me up a teleportation device.

    We were in the pub of course but this was standard stuff really - hooks into the neutrino energy field which allows faster-than-light travel.

    At this point I put down my pint of Frottage's Old Master and started to pay attention. This would facilitate anything really - the world was at my fingertips.

    At first I considered whether I should remove geo-political unrest in third-world dictatorships or raise the standard of living in autonomous collectives. Then I thought it might be worth testing climate change parallels by controlling sun spot formation and electrical field discharge.

    Neither seemed to satisfy me so I upped my thinking a little. If I were to rewind a little by four billion years or so, I could influence the trajectory of the proto-continents and design a more accommodating set of landmasses for us all.

    I didn't get too far as Jenkins had rung the bell and I'm never one to miss last orders, but I think this will help us:

    1. Move Pangea southwards
    2. Ensure Laurasia is more vertically aligned and can float northwards once the geo-magnetic field polarity reverses in the Pre-Cambrian
    3. Take a punt on North America forming closer and Africa more Easterly
    4. Make sure Antarctica moves more quickly by punting proto-Asia on the southern tectonics (any plate will do).

    I'm not sure but I'm hoping this will have three considerable effects.

    The first is that Lyme Regis will be closer to London so we can all enjoy ourselves more easily.

    The second is that Bond Street will be closer to the City so we can all pick up milsubs without deviating from our commute.

    The third is that it'll compress the Metropolitan line and allow me accommodate Bayswater to Crouch End.

    If you know your Mornington Crescent, you'll know this is kingmaker play in action.

    My work is done.
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    If you know your Mornington Crescent, you'll know this is kingmaker play in action.

    Umm, possibly, that move is completely hat stand.

    Although I was four years at the West Fukasumi Titnipple High I did not take the regular course of studies, but instead picked out what I thought would be most useful to me, particularly chemistry, which opened a new world, mathematics and physics, a little Greek and Latin, botany and and geology. I was far from satisfied with what I had learned, and should have stayed longer however, I furthered my understanding by many years of self teaching under the watchful guidance of Sum Ting Wong.

    On this occasion I will ignore your attempt to dominate proceedings by controlling sun spot formation and simply call Mornington Crescent. We are no longer under Cornish daughters ruling, Devonian is solidly in place, 3 Dutch reverse steamboats have been induced with permission, Tucker's underpass has finally conceded and my assumption of Ackerman has not been countered so again..... Mornington Crescent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    If you know your Mornington Crescent, you'll know this is kingmaker play in action.

    Umm, possibly, that move is completely hat stand.

    Although I was four years at the West Fukasumi Titnipple High I did not take the regular course of studies, but instead picked out what I thought would be most useful to me, particularly chemistry, which opened a new world, mathematics and physics, a little Greek and Latin, botany and and geology. I was far from satisfied with what I had learned, and should have stayed longer however, I furthered my understanding by many years of self teaching under the watchful guidance of Sum Ting Wong.

    On this occasion I will ignore your attempt to dominate proceedings by controlling sun spot formation and simply call Mornington Crescent. We are no longer under Cornish daughters ruling, Devonian is solidly in place, 3 Dutch reverse steamboats have been induced with permission, Tucker's underpass has finally conceded and my assumption of Ackerman has not been countered so again..... Mornington Crescent.
    You cannot make that move, sir. The Coren-Zybrowykski Protocol has yet to be invoked. Furthermore, the long-diagonal variation appears to be in place. Therefore the only logical move from Crouch End is St James's Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl smout View Post
    Therefore the only logical move from Crouch End is St James's Park.
    But that's put us all in Nip.

    Anyone know a way to bypass? I thought we may be able to retrace via Fromisher Street, but that's prohibited on Fridays and Mondays under Singapore Reversal.

    And the Mounting Bartholomew move, although feasible, would result in the next player being Gibboned, so no-one's going to play that.

    I'm stumped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    But that's put us all in Nip.

    Anyone know a way to bypass? I thought we may be able to retrace via Fromisher Street, but that's prohibited on Fridays and Mondays under Singapore Reversal.

    And the Mounting Bartholomew move, although feasible, would result in the next player being Gibboned, so no-one's going to play that.

    I'm stumped.
    Ah, but if you instigate Ludwig Vann's Tenth Diabelli Variation (as practised by Brendel Horowitz), the move can be made quite safely with no fear of Nip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl smout View Post
    Ah, but if you instigate Ludwig Vann's Tenth Diabelli Variation (as practised by Brendel Horowitz), the move can be made quite safely with no fear of Nip.

    I don't think that would work in recent years, the oyster card has pretty much ended the effectiveness of the Tenth Diabelli. Unless of course there are any DLR stations from which you can pick up a cycle hire scheme bike, this would be a sneaky, though "technically legitimate" way around this little problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    But that's put us all in Nip.

    Anyone know a way to bypass? I thought we may be able to retrace via Fromisher Street, but that's prohibited on Fridays and Mondays under Singapore Reversal.
    Phew, it's Saturday now so I move to Baker Street via a reversal through Fromisher Street and Mudchute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Phew, it's Saturday now so I move to Baker Street via a reversal through Fromisher Street and Mudchute.
    Will be interesting to see how weekend travellers affect the quality of game-play, I've seen things go either way TBH.
    Not sure on my connectivity situation for a couple of days so I'll echo the words of M.W. Frobisher-Smyth on having to play a move shortly before attempting to train-surf from Jammu to Baramulla as a forfeit during the Kashmiri Regional of '83 -
    "I hope to be with you, but should destiny have other plans, let it be known my eyes were open and my heart full of hope as I left you all with the capable amenities of Highbury & Islington"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Phew, it's Saturday now so I move to Baker Street via a reversal through Fromisher Street and Mudchute.
    If I evoke the Alternate Time Zone Technicality (1986), I can use the fact that its still Friday here and take a double to move me to Pontoon Dock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    If I evoke the Alternate Time Zone Technicality (1986), I can use the fact that its still Friday here and take a double to move me to Pontoon Dock.
    Very generous of you sir.... Mornington Crescent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Very generous of you sir.... Mornington Crescent

    Afraid not, don't forget MikeP's move was officially on a Friday, and at that time of day it would have still been during the morning rush hour, so you wouldn't be able to go to Mornington Crescent in one move.

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    Sorry, got sidetracked.
    Lancaster Gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jchlu View Post
    Sorry, got sidetracked.
    Lancaster Gate.
    No! I was waiting to play the Five-day Leap move that would have put all other players on Notice of Upward Declination. Boo! :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    No! I was waiting to play the Five-day Leap move that would have put all other players on Notice of Upward Declination. Boo! :(
    Having fallen foul of such a move in the '89 Straights of Johor round-robin after being bewitched by a temptress known only as "The Orchid" I have developed an ambush sixth sense.

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    Well, after Lancaster Gate, all that remains to be said is MORNINGTON CRESCENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl smout View Post
    Well, after Lancaster Gate, all that remains to be said is MORNINGTON CRESCENT.
    Ah. Bit embarrassing this. How should I put it? A easy mistake to make, I suppose.

    You see, a move in capitals forfeits the previous four moves under Cornish Rules (text-based game-play amendment II, subsection 4.17, page 187. From the 1988 revision.).

    Sorry :(

    That puts us back to Baker Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Ah. Bit embarrassing this. How should I put it? A easy mistake to make, I suppose.

    You see, a move in capitals forfeits the previous four moves under Cornish Rules (text-based game-play amendment II, subsection 4.17, page 187. From the 1988 revision.).

    Sorry :(

    That puts us back to Baker Street.
    And it used to be three didnt it?

    I read a book recently about the adoption of the Cornish Rules. Fascinating. After the St.Agnes incident at the world tournament, they just couldn't go on without clarifying some of the issues raised by old Bernie McCraddock's drunken speech to the governing body.

    Somewhat ironic that he was killed two years later by a cricket ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    Somewhat ironic that he was killed two years later by a cricket ball.
    I know someone who attended that ball. Apparently the over-polished parquet floor could have claimed more lives were it not for the swift abandonment following Bernie's demise.

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    forfeits the previous four moves under Cornish Rules
    While you are indeed correct in your assertion, this game is currently in Devonian rules. A far more forward-thinking set than the rather backward Cornish, in my view. If I'm not mistaken this forfeits not the PREVIOUS four moves, but the NEXT four moves.

    So unless I'm mistaken we move through from Lancaster Gate to Shepherd's Bush (Overground), to Seven Sisters, to Mornington Crescent (some poor fellow missed out there), to Bank and this leaves us safely and correctly at St Paul's .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobywatches View Post
    While you are indeed correct in your assertion, this game is currently in Devonian rules. A far more forward-thinking set than the rather backward Cornish, in my view.
    Nicely played sir. A text book example of the famous Taunton Gamble.

    I've only seen it done successfully once before.

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    Invoking the Spitzmeier Pause--as originally conceived in the 1957-1958 Bender Crescent tournament where there was a break in play lasting over seven months--means I move to Golders Green, and declare No Buckets.

    A wise player will make their next move very carefully.

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    You thought about that one for a while, Sean. The Spitzmeier Pause usually requires a break of no less than 17 years, but the as we are North of the Cutty Sark, a shorter break is permitted under Beezlewak's third amendment to his second amendment.

    Hmm... at the moment I think we are in Spoon and simultaneously in Nip, so No Buckets means a Northward move would be out of kilter. Golders Green is already violating the Kaznavarian pledge, so I will go for Blackfriars.

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    I'm finding the rules a touch confusing, but I'm going to under the water to 'Borough.'

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    No, no no.

    A move from a North London railway station to a south London tube-only station with no interchange precisely breaks the 1964 amendments. Of course, the last person to break those rules was Mickey "the Hat" Hatt back in '75. You recall Mickey: the well known nightclub owner, scrap metal merchant, art collector, bare-knuckle boxing aficionado, Mornington Crescent Grand Master and later Grand Mistress following his "change" of 1982. Of course when Mickey/Michaela broke the rules any complaints were met by a swift upper cut and a visit from some associates.

    I trust you will be more gracious as I move to Vauxhall

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    Is this the new bump your post count thread? Or is it to occupy the mouth breathers so they stop posting about hijacked accounts & tag watches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom_ View Post
    Is this the new bump your post count thread? Or is it to occupy the mouth breathers so they stop posting about hijacked accounts & tag watches?
    The obvious next move is to Elephant & Castle, so we'll all just assume that's what you meant.

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    Obvious? Your proclivity for risk astounds me sir. And I once built a whole set of IKEA shelves without once looking at the instructions so I know what I'm talking about.

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