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    New Bremont Wright Flyer

    So the day has arrived and the Bremont Wright Flyer lands on the market place.
    What will it promise and in reality what will it actually deliver?
    For sure they claim a English designed and made movement!
    They call it there own In-house creation but let's wait and see.

    For this is not the case!

    For me personally I'm weary of the claims that Bremont make.
    Let's wait and see how the story unfolds but mark my words closely "This is not an English designed movement. It is NOT in-house"

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    ...and your background and source of info is...?

    Just another troll IMO.

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    I'm sure the Bremont will be better than your spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    ...and your background and source of info is...?

    Just another troll IMO.
    We have the original movement number Manufacturer and catalog insert.
    They have taken old Swiss movement and merely called it there own! Fact!
    Last edited by Wright Flyer; 23rd July 2014 at 09:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnsey66 View Post
    I'm sure the Bremont will be better than your spelling.
    They might do better with the spelling but not the facts that is for sure, but let's see hey!

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    Please show facts.

    No facts=troll.

    Daddel.
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    So you are suggesting Bremont are simply re-branding a Swiss movement? Is this a picture you have in your avatar?

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    so your username is Wright Flyer and you are discussing the Bremont Wright Flyer.

    Please elaborate on your claims and reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adesmith View Post
    so your username is Wright Flyer and you are discussing the Bremont Wright Flyer.

    Please elaborate on your claims and reasons.
    The movement they launch tomorrow that is claimed to be in house and British is just a Swiss made movement that has been purchased and branded Bremont. My user name is Wright Flyer and I'm only here to Wright the Wrong so to speak. Call me a troll today but let's see who was correct tomorrow.

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    Why are you telling us?

    We only buy Rolex.

    Tell Bremont troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W44NNE View Post
    So you are suggesting Bremont are simply re-branding a Swiss movement? Is this a picture you have in your avatar?
    That is exactly what I am saying. The photo is of the new watch!

    The movement is not New. It is not English. It is Swiss. Fact plain and simple.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by burnsey66 View Post
    Why are you telling us?

    We only buy Rolex.

    Tell Bremont troll.
    This is the best forum to reach out to!

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    Odd post indeed. Main link is dead so had to find the cached one: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    The movement they launch tomorrow that is claimed to be in house and British is just a Swiss made movement that has been purchased and branded Bremont. My user name is Wright Flyer and I'm only here to Wright the Wrong so to speak. Call me a troll today but let's see who was correct tomorrow.
    Why tomorrow?

    You claim to have the facts, show them.

    Daddel.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    We have a Bremont watchmaker on this forum by the way. Is he biting his lip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Odd post indeed. Main link is dead so had to find the cached one: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
    Hmmm, the guy's photo matches up so we can't deny he's correct there.

    Perhaps until someone shows a photo of the movement, we won't know if the rest is true.

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    Is this new movement not British in the same way that many Swiss movements can only actually be deemed to be Swiss due to the % cost/value added of reworking?

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    Could be true, just need to see the facts.

    There are loads of companies who make claims regarding in-house movements, they wouldn't be the first, or the last.

    Daddel.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adesmith View Post
    We have a Bremont watchmaker on this forum by the way. Is he biting his lip?
    I hope no Bremont watchmakers have there feelings hurt! But lips will be very sore by tonight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    I hope no Bremont watchmakers have there feelings hurt! But lips will be very sore by tonight!
    Calm down... It's not a government conspiracy you've unraveled here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    I hope no Bremont watchmakers have there feelings hurt! But lips will be very sore by tonight!
    The New Bremont movement is on my Facebook page now. It's called Wright-flyer.

    The reason for these posts today is quite simple really. Companies should not trade on the fact that there products are British made and charge a premium for that reason. Great Britain is not a selling point to extract more profit from a product that is made outside these shores.

    Bremont should simply tell the truth about there new product, then if the customer wishes to buy the product for the asking price then he so she knows exactly what there getting. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. If I'm not correct then I will change my name to the Wrong Flyer!
    Last edited by Wright Flyer; 23rd July 2014 at 10:47.

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    For the record

    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    The New Bremont movement is on my Facebook page now. It's called Wright-flyer.

    The reason for these posts today is quite simple really. Companies should not trade on the fact that there products are British made and charge a premium for that reason. Great Britain is not a selling point to extract more profit from a product that is made outside these shores.

    Bremont should simply tell the truth about there new product, then if the customer wishes to buy the product for the asking price then he so she knows exactly what there getting. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. If I'm not correct then I will change my name to the Wrong Flyer!
    If Bremont wish to state as a fact that I am wrong then please let them do so, it's a Great Britian after all not China!

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    You have joined with the express - and, I'm going out on a limb here, sole - intent to trash-talk Bremont, going so far as to take the name of one of their products in order to draw attention. A more pointlessly arcane, single-issue, narrow-focus activity I can hardly fathom, and an archetype for the phenomenon known as "troll". The fact that you have trolled so openly leads me to some questions:

    Are you here for any other reason? Do you have a job? I don't think Bremont is predictable or cynical enough to run a false-flag campaign in order to draw interest. Do you, in fact, work for SWATCHCO?
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adesmith View Post
    We have a Bremont watchmaker on this forum by the way. Is he biting his lip?
    Will send first aid kit for injured lip!

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    Okay.
    You have their photos (well done on the scoop), and you have made an allegation that the movement is in fact Swiss.
    Bremont (in the blurb on your photos) state that it was "designed and developed in Britain", and that "many of its constituent parts have also been crafted at the company's workshops in Henley-on-Thames".
    You need to tell us who else you believe produced the movement, and why you believe it is in fact a Swiss movement that has been "bought" by Bremont, rather than developed by them.
    Without such, yours is merely an allegation.
    I am sure Bremont's text has been gone over with a fine tooth comb to ensure that what they claim is in fact true. After all, they have a lot more to lose from lying than you do, they are the ones with the reputation and business to lose if they are.
    You lose nothing apart from a very short forum membership.
    So the ball is in your court.

    Dave

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    The New Bremont movement is on my Facebook page now. It's called Wright-flyer.


    Link?

    Daddel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew View Post
    You have joined with the express - and, I'm going out on a limb here, sole - intent to trash-talk Bremont, going so far as to take the name of one of their products in order to draw attention. A more pointlessly arcane, single-issue, narrow-focus activity I can hardly fathom, and an archetype for the phenomenon known as "troll". The fact that you have trolled so openly leads me to some questions:

    Are you here for any other reason? Do you have a job? I don't think Bremont is predictable or cynical enough to run a false-flag campaign in order to draw interest. Do you, in fact, work for SWATCHCO?
    We merely wish people to know the true facts before they spend what to most people is hard earned money on a product that is clearly not as described. There is nothing wrong with stating a fact that is correct and to the point. Let me answer your final question if I may also please. I'm more of a Watch Dog than anything else you might say. And over the coming days we will be proven correct. If telling the truth hurts then so be it. We have stated only the truth about this matter purely to alert people to the facts, nothing more or less.
    And no I don't work for swatch, I own many watches including something special for the Isle of Mann! I drive only English made cars and I'm what some would call an Englishman.

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    We?

    Care to elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    We merely wish people to know the true facts before they spend what to most people is hard earned money on a product that is clearly not as described. There is nothing wrong with stating a fact that is correct and to the point. Let me answer your final question if I may also please. I'm more of a Watch Dog than anything else you might say. And over the coming days we will be proven correct. If telling the truth hurts then so be it. We have stated only the truth about this matter purely to alert people to the facts, nothing more or less.
    And no I don't work for swatch, I own many watches including something special for the Isle of Mann! I drive only English made cars and I'm what some would call an Englishman.
    You are what some might call a twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
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    Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    And no I don't work for swatch, I own many watches including something special for the Isle of Mann! I drive only English made cars and I'm what some would call an Englishman.
    So posting a quick photo of an English newspaper wouldn't be too difficult then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    The New Bremont movement is on my Facebook page now. It's called Wright-flyer.


    Link?

    Daddel.
    http://www.Facebook.com/pages/wright...52675188216000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    More posts going up today on Facebook pages. Let's wait and see if we are wrong!

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    Who is the "we" you refer too? Are you involved in the watch making industry? Are you Christopher Ward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snedboy View Post
    Who is the "we" you refer too? Are you involved in the watch making industry? Are you Christopher Ward?
    or UKIP?

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    I notice that you have ignored the requests for facts to back up your assertions. You have merely stated that you are telling the truth, without actually telling us any "facts" at all. You clearly think you "know" the truth. Share it. Details. Otherwise it is mere trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    Thanks.

    I can't make out from the pic if it's really in-house, or made by someone else based on an old design.

    Daddel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Joined Facebook 22.7.2014 as well.

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    Dear Eddie

    May I email the movement details later on then you can decide for yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    I notice that you have ignored the requests for facts to back up your assertions. You have merely stated that you are telling the truth, without actually telling us any "facts" at all. You clearly think you "know" the truth. Share it. Details. Otherwise it is mere trolling.

    D
    We will post the details later today as promised.

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    What's stopping you from posting these details up on the forum now?

    C'mon!

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    Going off the page that OldHooky posted, there's no claim of an in-house designed and built movement. The only claim is that many of the components have been hand crafted in-house.

    That can mean many things but certainly not an in-house designed and built movement.

    Unless I'm missing something somewhere.

    The OP certainly seems to have only one item on his agenda!

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    ok, ill play.....animal, mineral or vegetable?

    are you Christopher Ward? or a failed Bremont apprentice?

    if your revelation is that they bought an old movement manufacturer or name and have remodelled a movement to call it their own by redesign then making and assembling a percentage of it in the UK I think you are going to be rather disappointed with the lack of shock and awe you are likely to see

    so, say what you know/claim to know or clear off back to the bridge you were living under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wright Flyer View Post
    We will post the details later today as promised.

    really, truly, you promise mister. im all a quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snedboy View Post
    Who is the "we" you refer too? Are you involved in the watch making industry? Are you Christopher Ward?
    As he's an Englishman perhaps it's liberal use of the 'Royal' 'we'?

    A

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    actually this whole thread was just an elaborate set up so I could reply and hit 250 posts, Yeah, I can sell my undercrackers on the SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    You are what some might call a twat.

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    Beat me to it.... always good to have a laugh at the ramblings of an idiot irrespective of right or wrong. Lets hope the 'we' guardians of honesty in the world get bored

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    Hello

    Who is this tit?

    How sad to join a forum just to do this.

    I suggest you get a life and do something more productive. Like test drive faulty parachutes from 10,000ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PD1 View Post
    Beat me to it.... always good to have a laugh at the ramblings of an idiot irrespective of right or wrong. Lets hope the 'we' guardians of honesty in the world get bored
    Stay clam and wait!

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    It's quite clear they've done a fairly standard private label job with a Swiss manufacturer. This isn't news really. The bits they 'make in their workshop' will no doubt be something relatively trivial like decoration on a bridge or skeletonising a rotor or something. It's ChRISTopHErWaRd all over again.

    The above is however opinion and I am not presenting it as fact nor asserting that I shall be proven right :)

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