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    I'm thinking about something like this



    Unitas 6498, screwed Glucydur balance,Nivarox hairspring, swan-neck regulator, 3/4 bridge with Geneva stripes and blued screws.



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    I'd say that's a good thought to be having!!

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    That's nice but I do wish the Smiths Chrono would get a move on
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    Very nice! I'd be hoping size wise for something like the 29A. Max 37mm, ideally smaller. Love the small seconds, hands and indices. Sapphire glass if possible please chief.

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    Have you got the Armstrong Siddeley name now?

    Does that mean you'll be making cars soon?

    How about the AS Speedbird? That'll really wind David Brown up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    I'd be hoping size wise for something like the 29A. Max 37mm, ideally smaller.
    With a 6498 in it? You'd have a job...the movement is about that size on it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungfugerbil View Post
    With a 6498 in it? You'd have a job...the movement is about that size on it's own.
    Showing my lack of knowledge there! I still think a dress watch such as this should be on the smaller side. I don't consider purchasing any watch with a case size of over 38mm now, 36mm being the sweet spot but that's just me. I realise I'm in the minority on here :-)

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    Is the inter-twined AS logo owned by the owner's club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broussard View Post
    Is the inter-twined AS logo owned by the owner's club?
    No, they don't use this style. They only use intetwined initials together with the sphinx plus it's a completely different typeface.



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    It looks a lot nicer than this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Very nice! I'd be hoping size wise for something like the 29A. Max 37mm, ideally smaller. Love the small seconds, hands and indices. Sapphire glass if possible please chief.
    That would be nice, but I can't remember seeing a watch with the 6498 that was under 42mm in diameter (without crown).

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    Sorry Eddie, I wasn't very clear. I was asking whether they owned the intertwined logo - rather than commenting on yours. The answer appears to be that they do - hence your choice of linked AS.

    Lancaster, Hurricane, Typhoon, Tempest, Sapphire. Some interesting names were linked with AS. Nice that it's gone to a good home.

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    No, they don't use this style. They only use intetwined initials together with the sphinx plus it's a completely different typeface.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzomantis View Post
    That would be nice, but I can't remember seeing a watch with the 6498 that was under 42mm in diameter (without crown).
    Yep. Seems I don't know my movements from my er...... movements.

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    Depending on the size (the bigger the better) I'd love this to be my first of eddies watches. I've been looking for something to wear with my reds.

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    Very nice, Eddie.

    I perceive a few nods to the Omega Ranchero, a watch that you've mentioned in the past, in that design.
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    I like it, especially the movement choice. I'd perhaps thin down the markers or have a more readablecolour for them with the hands. Silver on white can be hard to read.

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    Very nice...I've been drawn of late to the Junghans Meister dress watch and this has a similar appeal - definitely interested!

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    That would be nice.

    I've thought a modern Smiths dress watch would be a good seller. Based on these…






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    The watch I absolutely love (Zenith 135..one of my long time lusts), but the art deco logo looks cheap.

    If it's 37/38mm, but no more, then I think you have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporalsparrow View Post
    The watch I absolutely love (Zenith 135..one of my long time lusts), but the art deco logo looks cheap.

    If it's 37/38mm, but no more, then I think you have a winner.
    It can't be 37/38mm, given the movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    That would be nice.

    I've thought a modern Smiths dress watch would be a good seller. Based on these…







    Yes, this. In a modern size. Instant sell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzomantis View Post
    That would be nice, but I can't remember seeing a watch with the 6498 that was under 42mm in diameter (without crown).
    Ofrei sell a 41mm case that takes the 649X, it uses the case back instead of a movement holder. I think that's the lower limit.

    http://www.ofrei.com/page1494.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Showing my lack of knowledge there! I still think a dress watch such as this should be on the smaller side. I don't consider purchasing any watch with a case size of over 38mm now, 36mm being the sweet spot but that's just me. I realise I'm in the minority on here :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirPrize View Post
    You are not alone!
    Good to hear. Together we will fight the clown effect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Good to hear. Together we will fight the clown effect!
    Count me in too. 38/40mm max.

    "The clown effect". I love it.

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    Go Eddie, go!
    And please hurry up, can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirPrize View Post
    You are not alone!
    And a third :-) Especially on that kind of watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    It can't be 37/38mm, given the movement.

    Eddie
    Well...at any size it's lovely. Those indexes are sublime. A welcome return to elegance.

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    I can see what the thinking is on a smaller size… very similar in a way to a watch that I'm looking at for my 40th. But I think this would work at a larger size really well - with the arrow head hour markers it would look stunning..

    Looking good!

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    37 is max for me on a dress watch, having tried 39, it is just too big for me being all dial, looks wrong.

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    That looks lovely the Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire? after their classy 50's saloon/ limo which was more expensive than the equivalent Daimler or Jag of the day.

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    It looks really good.
    How slim would it be?

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    Given the size of the movement, is there not a risk that you'll have the same sort of criticism levelled at the new Christopher Ward "in-house" thingie?
    In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton-Browne View Post
    Given the size of the movement, is there not a risk that you'll have the same sort of criticism levelled at the new Christopher Ward "in-house" thingie?
    As I recall the bulk of the ire at the CW offering was directed at it's depth (or thickness I suppose!). The CW watch is 13.5mm thick - the movement itself is a beastie. Think of a Unitas with an auto rotor bolted on top.

    The Unitas is something like 4.5mm thick on it's own, about the same as a 2824. It all depends on the details of the case but there's no reason it can't be appreciably thinner than the CW watch and potentially a millimetre less diameter or so.

    edit: just remembered I once had a Dornblueth 99.1 - it was a 42.something mm watch that was around 12mm thick and wore very nicely as a larger dress watch so I don't see why not...
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    Yes, you're right. I had an Archimedes Pilot with similar dimensions and it was fine.
    In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    It can't be 37/38mm, given the movement.

    Eddie
    Two sizes, maybe?
    One with Unitas, and the other with Peseux 7001, it is much smaller (23.8 mm, 2.5 mm high).

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    Looks good, but at 40mm+ would be too big for me as a dress watch.
    Ah well.

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    Its odd… I never look at a watch as a dress watch or a sports watch… I'd wear a watch like this with jeans or a DJ. Maybe a diver doesn't go with evening wear but I think a smarter piece can always go casual.

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    Yeah I like it

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    gotta agree with naming the watch smiths astral - it builds on your previous work and is another classic smiths.never heard of armstrong siddely.....basically you can't go wrong with the unitas movement although i understand the concerns with the size and being a classic dress watch.

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    A modern Smiths Astral dress watch would be nice. 40mm would be OK but more would be too big IMHO. Of course a lot depends on the case design.

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    When i owned a Stowa Marine Auto i came to realise that there is some kind of golden ratio in watchmaking. Unlike its mathematical equivalent it can only measured subjectively and defies concrete definition. It's most proficient exponent worked at Rolex in the 50s and 60s and some of his disciples drew up the defstans.

    The rule has many facets but an important one is that too much free space on the dial is; initially quite striking, briefly pleasing and then rather dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


    Unitas 6498, screwed Glucydur balance,Nivarox hairspring, swan-neck regulator, 3/4 bridge with Geneva stripes and blued screws.

    Eddie
    I'd say that's a great thought, I think (almost) everyone could do with a good quality strong design understated dresswatch.......
    You can count me in for one

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    I have a thought about making the markers and hands in rose gold.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I have a thought about making the markers and hands in rose gold.

    Eddie
    You have been doing a lot of thinking… and they are all great ideas!

    So a contrast in metals (obviously in rose) like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I have a thought about making the markers and hands in rose gold.
    That would be very appealing indeed in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    That would be very appealing indeed in my opinion.
    Me too Eddie. Sounds like an excellent idea.

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    Would have to be quite a bit bigger for a 6498 wouldn't it?

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    Never mind me...it's already been commented on, carry on about your business folks

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    I say...

    oh dear.... I have just popped back and seen this "I'm thinking of something like this".... for goodness sake will you stop it man, This is going to cost me again isn't it? I like it very much, classic and understated just as I like. Ah well where is me piggy bank, best start saving.

    I don't suppose it will have a nice crystal back to view its inner doodahs will it? or has that been covered already?
    Last edited by toezapper; 18th July 2014 at 11:42. Reason: typical typos & new thought

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