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    DIY Planet Ocean bezel swap

    I posted this on a clothing forum that I use but thought I'd put it up on here as well as I'm pretty happy with it all ..... possibly old news and/or very basic for some on here but anyway .......

    Taking inspiration from a mates orange bezel swap I thought I'd track one down for mine and do the same. Done a little home work and with help from the same mate(for which I'm most grateful) in sourcing a new orange bezel thought I'd have a crack at it myself.

    It's a simple job with the right tools and goes like this ...

    My PO with the new bezel



    The tools needed ... A nylon bezel puller that I made up in work, a sharp blade and a pair of tweezers. You can just see the small lip on the puller that clips under the recess on the underside of the bezel. Once this is seated where it should be it's a case of a twist and a pull with even pressure and the bezel just pops off



    With the bezel off you can see the click spring that allows the unidirectional movement and the precise clicks of the bezel



    Here is the click spring removed, just for cleaning, together with the bezel spring that holds everything in place



    The bezel springs are clear here in position and everything is ready to go back together



    Now it's just a case of positioning the new bezel on the watch and pressing down evenly until it clicks back into position. The new bezel is fitted and I now have the choice of the two .. this is about as simple as it gets really and the only 'specialist' tool needed is a decent puller.



    The orange bezel is quite striking after the black one and complements the orange digits

    As you can see in the photos this took me around 10 minutes from start to finish and that included cleaning the suprising amount of 'gunk' that had collected underneath the original bezel.

    Very happy with that for a relatively small outlay and a few minutes ...two watches in one now
    Last edited by cf31bloobird; 29th May 2014 at 17:46.

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    Very neat 'tool' you've made
    Looks good

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    Job well done !!!!, how much was the bezel please?


    Mike

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    I`m interested in the tool you've made; getting Omega bezels off isn't easy.

    Opinions differ on whether to lubricate the bezel spring or not. If it's greased, the dirt will stick and that may accelerate wear; if it's dry, it isn`t lubricated. Omega put a small amount of water proof grease on so that's what I do.....but I`m never sure whether it's a good or bad idea. If it's greased, it should come off easier in the future, which can`t be a bad thing.

    Paul

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    Cheers Lewie, Mike ... I gave £80 all in for the bezel which is a great price considering they're around the 220 mark new.

    Paul, I'm not sure that the spring would need lubricating .. for what it does I don't really see the need. I can see both sides of the argument but it's not something I'd worry about either way. The bezel also pops off easily enough so ..... personal choice really I suppose

    Darren

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    Darren I'd like to know where you got the bezel for £80 please.
    as once you've hopefully made the tool for me I need to source the bezel, which is £180 from Cousins, which I thought wasn't bad.....

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    It was off a mate of a mate Sam .. he used to work for Omega and now works for Goldsmiths apparently.

    I didn't asked any questions just handed over the 80 ... which is quite some bargain imo :) I was willing to pay around 200 initially though, 180 is a good price

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    I've made you up a tool today .. just waiting for some jiffys to arrive and I'll get it in the post

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    I wish your mate had more lol. Send me a PayPal invoice and I'll square you up Darren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Darren I'd like to know where you got the bezel for £80 please.
    as once you've hopefully made the tool for me I need to source the bezel, which is £180 from Cousins, which I thought wasn't bad.....
    Don`t forget VAT at 20% plus carriage. Ordering from Ofrei in the states won't be any cheaper once you've paid the import tax (20%) and shipping costs.

    Paul

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    Can someone let me know the product code for he orange bezel to suit the 42mm PO....
    lim looking on the cousins site but there are a few and don't want to order the wrong one because we all know they won't take it back if I cock up.
    cheers.

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    I always wonder when people post these threads, how many times can you swap a snap-on bezel before the tight friction fit is lost????

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus fenix View Post
    I always wonder when people post these threads, how many times can you swap a snap-on bezel before the tight friction fit is lost????
    Well for me personally I'm not gonna be changing it about every week! Not like my watch straps, it will prob be changed a couple of times a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus fenix View Post
    I always wonder when people post these threads, how many times can you swap a snap-on bezel before the tight friction fit is lost????
    It shouldn`t be a problem. The friction fit is between the wire spring and a stout lip in the case. However, I`ve seen examples where the lip has become gouged owing to the spring getting trapped during attempts at removal.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    However, Ive seen examples where the lip has become gouged owing to the spring getting trapped during attempts at removal.
    That's when people don't have the right tools for the job Paul ;)

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    No maskin when removing the bezel to prevent scratches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfin View Post
    No maskin when removing the bezel to prevent scratches?
    Nylon won't touch stainless steel as far as I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Can someone let me know the product code for he orange bezel to suit the 42mm PO....
    lim looking on the cousins site but there are a few and don't want to order the wrong one because we all know they won't take it back if I cock up.
    cheers.
    On the ofrie site, enter your PO model number in their search box, which will give you a list of parts with part numbers. Select the bezel shown and that will take you to ofrie's page of Omega bezels.

    You really need the case number to do a search on Cousins, as they use their own part codes. (You will get this information on ofrie, plus the correct Omega part number)

    Brian

    PS With your username you shouldn't miss

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    Well done the OP! You made that look easy, but how long did it take you to get the tool right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Can someone let me know the product code for he orange bezel to suit the 42mm PO....
    lim looking on the cousins site but there are a few and don't want to order the wrong one because we all know they won't take it back if I cock up.
    cheers.
    For the 42 mm PO 232.30.42.21.01.002, Ofrei list the bezel as being OME-082SU2146 and the case number as 168.1665 (⅔ of the way down the page).

    I cannot find this one on Cousins's site. You'll have to ask them for a quote. If you specify all the necessary details they should also confirm the part number.

    But is yours a c.8500 or a c.2500 model?

    Ofrei also list OME-082SU1773 for case number 168.1653 and models "2209.50.00, 2909.50.48, 2909.50.83, 2909.50.38, 2909.50.82, 2909.50.91" (¼ way down the same page). So it depends upon which model PO you have and not just on the size. Cousins list this one as their code X22401. It's also available from Watchpart.co.uk.

    Check out the model number of your PO. Check the websites for the correct part. Cross check across the sites. Check again and order...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    For the 42 mm PO 232.30.42.21.01.002, Ofrei list the bezel as being OME-082SU2146 and the case number as 168.1665 (⅔ of the way down the page).

    I cannot find this one on Cousins's site. You'll have to ask them for a quote. If you specify all the necessary details they should also confirm the part number.

    But is yours a c.8500 or a c.2500 model?

    Ofrei also list OME-082SU1773 for case number 168.1653 and models "2209.50.00, 2909.50.48, 2909.50.83, 2909.50.38, 2909.50.82, 2909.50.91" (¼ way down the same page). So it depends upon which model PO you have and not just on the size. Cousins list this one as their code X22401. It's also available from Watchpart.co.uk.

    Check out the model number of your PO. Check the websites for the correct part. Cross check across the sites. Check again and order...!
    WOW thanks for all that!
    Mine is the 2500, not sure on the model number though, I'll have to get I to the roof space to get the box.
    its certainly not as easy as one might think to order a simple bezel.

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    Maybe it's just me, but the orange bezel looks like an 8500 version (slightly more matt than the original version).

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil h View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but the orange bezel looks like an 8500 version (slightly more matt than the original version).
    If you're talking about the 082SU2138 in the OP's photo, then it is for a c.8500 PO.

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    Using the case number: 168.1653 which is for Cal 2500, on Cousins site, I came up with this result:

    Bezel, Stainless Steel With Orange Insert, Omega 082SU1773

    Cousins ref: X22401



    Cost + VAT and RMSD = £204.86
    Last edited by himmelblau; 14th June 2014 at 22:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by himmelblau View Post
    Using the case number: 168.1653 which is for Cal 2500, on Cousins site, I came up with this result:

    Bezel, Stainless Steel With Orange Insert, Omega 082SU1773

    Cousins ref: X22401



    Cost + VAT and RMSD = £204.86
    You reckon that's the one I'm after then? I'll defo double check my model number but appreciate your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by himmelblau View Post
    Using the case number: 168.1653 which is for Cal 2500, on Cousins site, I came up with this result:

    Bezel, Stainless Steel With Orange Insert, Omega 082SU1773

    Cousins ref: X22401...
    Thanks for that...it's always good to have confirmation.

    See posts #20 & #21; sniper-sam knows his is a c.2500 PO so the 082SU1773 is almost certainly the right one. But he's going to ID the model number of his PO to double check.

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    Why do watchpart.co.uk call it a 40mm planet ocean bezel? Are they literally quoting the size of the bezel? It was confusing me a little (not hard) as I was think ping it was case size but there is no such a size, or is there, excluding crown?
    Because they quote the order one on their site as being the 42mm version.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    You reckon that's the one I'm after then? I'll defo double check my model number but appreciate your efforts.
    Omega use different case numbers for their various models, which makes searching for parts hard.

    Example is my modified SMP 2531.80.00 the case number is: 168.1623.

    The parts I was looking for were:

    • SMP 2254.50.00 bezel and bracelet, the case number is: 168.1640
    • SMP 2230.50.00 dial and hands, case number is:168.1642

    All the above parts fit the SMP 2531.80.00. You will never find the the case number using Cousins, hence having to search via ofrei.

    I went from this:

    To this:
    Last edited by himmelblau; 14th June 2014 at 23:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Why do watchpart.co.uk call it a 40mm planet ocean bezel? Are they literally quoting the size of the bezel? It was confusing me a little (not hard) as I was think ping it was case size but there is no such a size, or is there, excluding crown?
    Because they quote the order one on their site as being the 42mm version.......
    The case size including crown guard is 42mm, the bezel size is smaller. If you look at some of the bezel results on ofrei you will see that they are all smaller than the case size.

    Brian

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    Cheers Brian, very much appreciated, and to everyone else.
    i think I'll get this ordered as so as my removal tool arrives. I'll probably try to remove my black bezel, and then put it back on again to make sure it's easy enough before I fork out £200 on the orange one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Cheers Brian, very much appreciated, and to everyone else.
    i think I'll get this ordered as so as my removal tool arrives. I'll probably try to remove my black bezel, and then put it back on again to make sure it's easy enough before I fork out £200 on the orange one.
    Looking on the bright side; you'll have two different PO's all for £200 instead of forking out around another £2000+ for a PO

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    Top post, well done, I love to see the ingenuity of a man who makes his own tools.

    Can you share the secret of what you used to make the puller? Where can we find such a nylon tube with a suitable lip on the inside edge?

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    Cheers for the comments gents, much appreciated


    Quote Originally Posted by Meinessex View Post
    Top post, well done, I love to see the ingenuity of a man who makes his own tools.

    Can you share the secret of what you used to make the puller? Where can we find such a nylon tube with a suitable lip on the inside edge?
    Thanks you, the tool is machined from solid 2" diameter nylon bar to suit the bezel size exactly


    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    i think I'll get this ordered as so as my removal tool arrives
    Sam, your tool is ready but I'm still waiting for those bloody jiffy bags to arrive, hopefully they'll have come today mate

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    Cheers Brian.

    drop me a pm or whatever once you are all set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    Cheers Brian.

    drop me a pm or whatever once you are all set.
    Darren ............. will do mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by cf31bloobird View Post
    Darren ............. will do mate
    LOL I am a twat. I've already called you the correct name in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper-sam View Post
    LOL I am a twat.
    Don't be so hard on yourself ;)

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    A spot of TLC for the SMP today in work ... a basic strip, polish and clean



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    Ok guys I'm struggling here.
    im just about ready to order as the tool is ready for posting but I can't work out what number I need to confirm the correct bezel on cousins site. So here are the number as they appear on the cards.....

    ref 29015037
    calibre 2500 (I know what this is)

    ref 29015037
    watch no 81042016

    and the above are repeated again on the warranty card.

    can somebody please help a thicko out.

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    Here you go...a quarter of the way down the Ofrei page it says, about a black PO bezel:


    So it is the 082SU1773 (Cousins X22401) you need; see post #24 and elsewhere above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Here you go...a quarter of the way down the Ofrei page it says, about a black PO bezel:

    So it is the 082SU1773 (Cousins X22401) you need; see post #24 and elsewhere above.
    Your a gent, my hero.

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    Very nice to have the ability to swap, I think id be swapping them daily !

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    I though I'd be swapping them over quite regularly but the black bezel seems so boring compared to the orange .... I'll keep that one for the more subtle occasions, whenever they might be! :)

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    That little mod looks well worth the £200 outlay.

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