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    Can anyone tell me....

    please, of any watch that employs the second handed sweeping movement but that is powered by quartz?

    I had wondered this as I wanted a watch with sweeping second hand (rather than the tick-tocking) but without the use of an automatic or a winder.

    Are there any offering this?

    Do the Mondaine Railway watches incorporate this sweep in their collection of quartz watches?

    Best regards
    Bond

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    Better to go the other way around, get a mechanical watch with with a tick instead! :twisted:





    Sorry, just had to say it. :D
    I'm sure someone else here will better answer your question.

    /Stefan

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    :lol:

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    Re: Can anyone tell me....

    Quote Originally Posted by bond
    please, of any watch that employs the second handed sweeping movement but that is powered by quartz?
    You need a tuning fork watch - Omegary has a lovely Zenith - and he was kind enough to include a link about tuning fork watches on that page.

    Having a second hand step once a second reduces battery usage - although if you had a Seiko kinetic movement, maybe the watch could afford to be a little more generous with its power consumption?

    Simon

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    cheers for the link gladders

    looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.L
    Better to go the other way around, get a mechanical watch with with a tick instead! :twisted:

    ..........

    /Stefan
    The feature is called 'dead seconds'* (in French: seconde morte). Breguet used the expression seconde d?un coup or "sudden second".

    Didn't the old MOD Seiko quartz have the chrono-seconds beat fifths or quarters?

    john


    * ... that's why people don't like them. Who was to walk around with something dying on their wrist. :roll: :P
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    Even though the true seconds hand ticks, the large chrono seconds hand sort of sweeps on these Eco drive chronographs.


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    Sweeping quartz

    Hi Bond

    Whilst probably not helping you in our current quest, Seiko produced (in the late 80's early 90's I believe) a quartz movement with a true sweeping seconds hand.

    It was usually adorned with a pulsemeter type dial and gold plated case. Battery life was no more than year or so I think but the seconds hand really did glide around the dial. I had a NOS one maybe ten years ago and had a quick peek under the bonnet - seem to recall something that didn't look like a traditional quartz movement.

    This was quartz as opposed to tuning fork and it seems wasn't around for long.

    Cheers

    Ewan

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    Hi Bond,

    I see Gladders has beat me to it (thanks Simon), essentially you need a tuning fork movement for smooth movement of the second hand. They really are super smooth with no visible stepping at all. I always thought my Girard Perregaux with 36,000 beats per hour (10 beat a second) was as smooth as you could get but it's agricultural compared to an esa 9162/4.

    The odd thing is because it's so smooth I find myself looking twice as I think the second hand isn't moving, bizaar really.

    Here's a few others in my small collection

    Omega Seamaster Geneve



    Tissot Tissonic


    Omega Seamaster

    Plus of course the Zenith Allegro that you've already seen.

    Cheers,

    Gary

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    And while looking at tuning forks don't forget Accutron.




    Smooth as butter and the Hum is sweet. I must take a new pic of this watch someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by S.L
    Better to go the other way around, get a mechanical watch with with a tick instead! :twisted:

    ..........

    /Stefan
    The feature is called 'dead seconds'* (in French: seconde morte). Breguet used the expression seconde d?un coup or "sudden second".
    Cheers John.
    Isn't "True Beat" another reference to this type of movement as well?

    /Stefan

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    There was this one on the 'bay, I don't think it sold.

    Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... &rd=1&rd=1


    Hope this helps!

    Mark

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    Sharky, I got it and it does indeed sweep. Really nice size too for an 8 inch wrist. Well chuffed with it !



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    Love the Record Hari/Ventura

    What's the little crown on the back do ?

    Dave
    :)

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    Good catch Hari :D

    I was thinking about buying it ages ago which is why I still had it in my watched items.

    Cheers

    Mark

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    Thanks guys :)

    Dunno what the crown does, I'm worried if I turn it the whole movement will fall out :lol:

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    [quote=S.L]
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by "S.L":2lbseoaj
    Better to go the other way around, get a mechanical watch with with a tick instead! :twisted:

    ..........

    /Stefan
    The feature is called 'dead seconds'* (in French: seconde morte). Breguet used the expression seconde d?un coup or "sudden second".
    Cheers John.
    Isn't "True Beat" another reference to this type of movement as well?

    /Stefan[/quote:2lbseoaj]

    I am not aware of that term either for watch or clock movements ... and neither is Google.

    john


    PS When buying old quartz make sure you can still get batteries for the module.
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    Re: Can anyone tell me....

    Quote Originally Posted by bond
    please, of any watch that employs the second handed sweeping movement but that is powered by quartz?

    I had wondered this as I wanted a watch with sweeping second hand (rather than the tick-tocking) but without the use of an automatic or a winder.

    Are there any offering this?

    Do the Mondaine Railway watches incorporate this sweep in their collection of quartz watches?

    Best regards
    Bond
    Bullova Accutron a lovely sweep on the second hand some pictures of my Birthday year watch



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    [quote=abraxas]
    Quote Originally Posted by S.L
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by "S.L":3elbqmwj
    Better to go the other way around, get a mechanical watch with with a tick instead! :twisted:

    ..........

    /Stefan
    The feature is called 'dead seconds'* (in French: seconde morte). Breguet used the expression seconde d?un coup or "sudden second".
    Cheers John.
    Isn't "True Beat" another reference to this type of movement as well?

    /Stefan
    I am not aware of that term either for watch or clock movements ... and neither is Google.

    john[/quote:3elbqmwj]

    THe vintage Rolex model 6556 (aka Tru-Beat) utilized a dead beat seconds movement:

    http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...o=130470&rid=0

    P.S. John, I found this easily using Google. You may need to employ a more sophisticated searching strategy (removing default filters, using Boolean logic along with likely spelling alternatives to create more effective search strings, etc.)

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