Reply With QuoteWhat about the crystal? Plexiglas?
Well, perhaps we can put the specs here!
Limited edition:
A.Schild movement AS 2063
produced between 1969 and 1978
self winding, hand winding is possible
center-seconds
date-function with quick-set
21.600 a/h
45 hrs power reserve
11.5 lignes/25,6 mm
5,2 mm high
17/21/25 jewels, depending on version
white date wheel
incabloc shock protection
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_2063
Non-LE:
ETA 2824-2
produced since 1982
self winding, hand winding is possible
center-seconds
date function with quick-set
28.800 a/h
40 hrs power reserve
11.5 lignes/25,6 mm
4,8 mm high
17/21/25 jewels, depending on version
incabloc shock protection
hacking
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&ETA_2824_2
Case:
made by Fricker, 200m/20 bar waterresistant
stainless steel with screw down bottom
screwed crown (?!)
size: 42 mm.
thickness: 15 mm.
22 mm. lug width
no anti-magnetic plates (would make the case too thick)
Bezel:
Filled in with luminous material (SuperLuminova?!).
Bombé plexiglas bezel insert.
unidirectional, with 60 or 120 clicks?
Crystal:
4 mm thick flat sapphire crystal with AR-coating on the underside
Dial & hands:
Hands like on the early Blancpain models
hour hand and minute hand filled with SuperLuminova
second hand with a red arrowhead at the end
no lume on the second hand
luminous "diamond" on 12" o'clock
Date at 3', white date-wheel with black writing (because of the NOS-movements: black date-wheels with white writing are not available).
Strap
Rubber strap, in the period style, with rectangular holes in the rubber
22 mm. width
Ltd. edition: specially numbered: x/50, total of 50 pieces --> all reserved and several forum-members on the reserve list.
Normal version: with serial number --> will only be made in case there are enough buyers.
The pics:
and the "other" dial:
Luminous bezel:
The caseback (will it stay this way, PRS-23 or will it become PRS-50??):
AN UPDATED DESIGN: note the different dial.
A drawing:
And finally, the list of lucky b*st*rds who are on the magic list for the limited edition:
----- UPDATE -----: the list isn't up to date any more: several members dropped out and their places have been taken by others!
Originally Posted by swanbourne
Eddie, can you make this post sticky??---> THANKS!
What about the crystal? Plexiglas?
Case Dimensions? is it as per the original 50F 42mm dia 15mm thick?
Cheers
Martin
As soon as Eddie gives them, I'll put them in my original post.
That will keep this topic clean and clear!
Flat sapphire with A/R on the underside of the crystal.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Oh well, can't have everything I suppose. :cry:
Without doubt, you can, but at what price?????Oh well, can't have everything I suppose. :cry:
Eddie
What is the lug width..??
Thanks
deano
Which will be the case size and the price ?
Thanks,
Engi
P.S. A not L.E. will be also available ? :wink:
I am sorry, but I thought that the LE was to have this dial...
Did I misread something??? :cry:
If I've interpreted things correctly so far, then we are looking at something like this.
It's looking so nice, I could even forgive it for having a flat crystal :twisted:
Nice picture, Geoff. Where did you get the pic? Is that a SEAL or Royal Marine?
GeoffIf I've interpreted things correctly so far, then we are looking at something like this.
It's looking so nice, I could even forgive it for having a flat crystal :twisted:
That is the best wallpaper so far.!
If the PRS-50 is going to look like that its a true winner.!
Is it 20mm lug width..??
Thanks
deano
If the case is 40mm across, then the lugs are 20mm
And, I guess the dial is approximately 26mm across the minute track?
(based on the porportions of the watch pictured.)
I believe it's from the SBS (if they told me, then they would have to kill me :lol: ).
The image was to show the SIVA S-24 Multi-Role Diving Apparatus that's used for covert shallow water operations as it can run both closed and semi-closed.
Hi
Has it been said what the differences will be between the PRS-50 LE and the non-LE. :?:
Or was this a project that just started out as limited to 50 and the LE option is there if there is a significant demand.??
I realise that the movment will be one main component that diffrentiates the LE from the non-LE, but what about:
Dial markings
Hands
Case backs
etc
I just hope we get that natty little NO RAD symbol on it.! 8)
Thanks
deano
Thanks
The plan is that the non-LE will have:
a. ETA2824 instead of AS2063
and
b. Serial number instead of limited edition number.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I'm not really very technical and quite new at this to be honest, what, in a nutshell, is the diference between the two movements?
cheers
They compare like a mint vintage VW Beetle to a brand new Golf...I'm not really very technical and quite new at this to be honest, what, in a nutshell, is the diference between the two movements?
cheers
Just about every part is totally different!
ETA 2824: http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&ETA_2824_2
and a picture:
AS 2063:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_2063
and a picture:
In other words the AS 2063 is more reliable and you can fix it with a sledgehammer in case you ever need to regulate it :DThey compare like a mint vintage VW Beetle to a brand new Golf...I'm not really very technical and quite new at this to be honest, what, in a nutshell, is the diference between the two movements?
cheers
Just about every part is totally different!
ETA 2824: http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&ETA_2824_2
and a picture:
AS 2063:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_2063
and a picture:
In other words the AS 2063 is more reliable and you can fix it with a sledgehammer in case you ever need to regulate it :DThey compare like a mint vintage VW Beetle to a brand new Golf...I'm not really very technical and quite new at this to be honest, what, in a nutshell, is the diference between the two movements?
cheers
Just about every part is totally different!
ETA 2824: http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&ETA_2824_2
and a picture:
AS 2063:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_2063
and a picture:
:lol:
I believe it's a bit like that, yes :D
Can anybody give me some info about the availability of parts for the AS mov't???
Jules Borel lists all the parts as available except the set bridge. This usually means they can find them somewhere if you need them.
Thanks for the info chaps
You're welcome!
What type or style of strap will this watch have? Will the strap be similar to the original ones? OR, will the strap be a Rhino or NATO type?
Eddie, had you made a decision on this aspect? I hadn't seen anything, or am I just missing something... Sorry if I did...
Those rubber ones with the fake weave molded on the outside and the diamond pattern on the inside.
Does anyone even make those any more?
Squinky has them in silicone, not sure if they're still made in rubber...
It will be a rubber strap, apparently in the period style, Fricker is sending me a sample. If it's the one I've seen before, it has rectangular holes in the rubber.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Just from a practical point of view: wouldn't it be possible to get the PRS-50 with a steel bracelet?
I think that might increase the practical useability quite a bit.
I personally prefer steel bracelets when diving (with an extension, that is).
Perhaps:Just from a practical point of view: wouldn't it be possible to get the PRS-50 with a steel bracelet?
I think that might increase the practical useability quite a bit.
I personally prefer steel bracelets when diving (with an extension, that is).
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28340
The PRS-50 has 22mm lugs.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
i always like big jugs :D
ahhh misread that but still think jugs are better than lugs :wink:
Excellent...
:twisted:
Absolutely fantastic.!
Its christmas come early. :reindeer:
I have a bomber jacket leather strap that I have not used for a while and then I have my handmade tabacco colour leather strap.
You can bet both will get some time on the PRS-50.
Only thing now is to get the dial and hands some vintage lume.!
Wey-hey.! :blob5:
Thanks
deano
Hi Deano,Absolutely fantastic.!
Its christmas come early. :reindeer:
I have a bomber jacket leather strap that I have not used for a while and then I have my handmade tabacco colour leather strap.
You can bet both will get some time on the PRS-50.
Only thing now is to get the dial and hands some vintage lume.!
Wey-hey.! :blob5:
Thanks
deano
if the bomber is the same you had on your vintage lumed 6309 it´ll be a fantastic match!
Mine will be on a mesh most likely though the one Eddie describes sounds like an Isoframe style. I can't wait.
Bingo.! Thats the one.!Hi Deano,Absolutely fantastic.!
Its christmas come early. :reindeer:
I have a bomber jacket leather strap that I have not used for a while and then I have my handmade tabacco colour leather strap.
You can bet both will get some time on the PRS-50.
Only thing now is to get the dial and hands some vintage lume.!
Wey-hey.! :blob5:
Thanks
deano
if the bomber is the same you had on your vintage lumed 6309 it´ll be a fantastic match!
Plus I have one strap (still unsold) from the Italiano project, so that will get worn as well.!
Thanks
deano
Thats great Deano!Bingo.! Thats the one.!Hi Deano,Absolutely fantastic.!
Its christmas come early. :reindeer:
I have a bomber jacket leather strap that I have not used for a while and then I have my handmade tabacco colour leather strap.
You can bet both will get some time on the PRS-50.
Only thing now is to get the dial and hands some vintage lume.!
Wey-hey.! :blob5:
Thanks
deano
if the bomber is the same you had on your vintage lumed 6309 it´ll be a fantastic match!
Plus I have one strap (still unsold) from the Italiano project, so that will get worn as well.!
Thanks
deano
Gotta hit the hay as I am real tired. One thing though:
The package has left the building so to speak - on transit to Rich :D
Just an idea, what about the LE case back having a large "50" of "fifty" engraved as well as the numbers?
Or maybe something else on there, what do people think?
I'd like it :D
As a hommage to a toolwatch, I'd like to see the prs-50 without any decoration. IMO a clean case back would be more in the spirit of the original.
Eddie,
Can you confirm that the PRS-50 will have the red-tipped second hand?
That's the plan. :D
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
The PRS-50 looks to be a real stunner. I am looking foward to having one on my wrist. This is easily one of Eddie's best. Regards, X :evil5:
Eddie, can you post a pic of the strap?
Do you have additional information (size, weight etc.)?
And do you know anything whatsoever about the price, scheduled delivery etc.??
No.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
No.
Eddie
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Direct and to the point
"Bezel:
Filled in with luminous material (SuperLuminova?!).
Bombé plexiglas bezel insert."
This is something which has been puzzling me for a while: how does one make such a bezel waterproof? How do (did) Omega do it (with varying degrees of success, admittedly)? The BP Bund failed miserably as every sample I've seen shows lume damage to the 12 pip.
I think the PRS-14 was done by pouring the acrylic, but I can't see how to get the top surface curve when doing it this way.
The PRS-50 looks to be a separate plastic piece back milled and filled with luminous paint. Then, I would assume, the paint is sealed in place by covering the back with epoxy, thus rendering it waterproof. The same thing done on the Benrus bezels.
It can be done by careful quality control and choice of epoxy for sealing the luminous paint into the the back of the bezel insert. Don't be to hard on Blancpain, epoxy technology has come a long way since then.
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