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    17C 'Mission Timer'?

    Still in search of the ultimate work beater, I miss my EZM-1 but prices are too high to wear one as a beater.
    Eddie any chance of something like this? Perhaps a limited run like the Goldbirds?
    I'm no photoshop wizard so if anyone can refine these please do!



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    I'd also love to see these made, but given this thread is, err, seven years old... :-)

    I'd prefer it slightly larger though, and with 22mm lugs. Also not yellow.

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    Well however unlikely I'll register an interest. With red instead of yellow;)

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    Must be time for a thread resurrection?
    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    Playing around with the seeds sown by Dave...


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    Yes please!!!


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    But without those silly crosshairs.

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    Sorry, but a mission timer needs a bezel..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Sorry, but a mission timer needs a bezel..........
    Oh God! That last design with minimalist bezel would be...perfect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Sorry, but a mission timer needs a bezel..........
    Yeah - but Paolo's A-13A seems to manage quite well without it.

    Though one with the 251.264 movement and a 0-12 GMT bezel would be awesome - a sort of GMT chrono, with the benefit of the quick-set hour hand. I've just come back from a trip with 4 countries and 6 time zones changes in 14 days. I took my Omega SMP 2264 for the lume (waking up in a strange bed at 4.30 am seems to be the norm for the first week away) and the quickset hour hand. I also took my Revue Thommen Airspeed with the Lemania 5100; frankly, I'd rather have had just the one watch which could do both.

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    I have the A-13-A. It's fabulous. But it would have been more fabulous still with a rotating bezel.

    Additionally, I don't think a bezel needs to be particularly thick to work well. i have a Tutma FX, and the bezel on that is really thin but still really useful without eating into the sleek refined look of the watch.

    I would love to see a version of the design pictured above become reality... this thread is exciting and frustrating!

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    17C 'Mission Timer'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy67 View Post
    But without those silly crosshairs.
    Agreed. The number of lemania type hands already creates enough radial busyness. No other dial decoration needed except the word ‘Smiths’ or ‘Precista’. Why do I see it more as ‘Precista’?

    If only this watch became a reality. Kickstarter x Timefactors?


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    Can we have a titanium case, please?

    This design is my favourite too, but can we have a titanium version, please? I wouldn't like my nickel allergy to ruin any missions to save the world.



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    How about an internal bezel like the Aquastars that seem have worked their way on to my wish list

    http://thewatchspotblog.com/?tag=aquastar

    Keeps the case simple but perhaps not the mechanism. Still a very elegant solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimm View Post
    How about an internal bezel like the Aquastars that seem have worked their way on to my wish list

    http://thewatchspotblog.com/?tag=aquastar

    Keeps the case simple but perhaps not the mechanism. Still a very elegant solution.

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    No thanks. We have to stay focused on the grail!

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    It is an old topic and because never this project found its production I tried to do my own 17c MT. I found dial and found watchmaker who modyfied movement to keep only central minute and second.










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    ^^^^^

    Looks fantastic!
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kister View Post
    It is an old topic and because never this project found its production I tried to do my own 17c MT. I found dial and found watchmaker who modyfied movement to keep only central minute and second.










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    Thats some initiative. Well done!
    Looks great


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kister View Post
    It is an old topic and because never this project found its production I tried to do my own 17c MT. I found dial and found watchmaker who modyfied movement to keep only central minute and second.




    Very well done, looks great
    Last edited by number2; 24th May 2019 at 17:48.
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    That looks very cool. Want to share details of how it was done - donor watch, movement etc? Just interested to know what it took to get there and also how its working longer term.

    Wasn't there a company that sort of allowed you to customise your own watch from a catalogue of parts? MKii or something, I'm sure I spent ages mocking up some designs on their site years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambam View Post
    That looks very cool. Want to share details of how it was done - donor watch, movement etc? Just interested to know what it took to get there and also how its working longer term.

    Wasn't there a company that sort of allowed you to customise your own watch from a catalogue of parts? MKii or something, I'm sure I spent ages mocking up some designs on their site years back.
    I found only dial what would fit this case and date wheel. I discovered that all vostok amphibia and komadirskie aftermarket dials fit very well. I wanted to keep date on the dial and all eta dials have it placed more to the centre.
    The movement had removed all small hands to keep the dial clean.

    That was my inspiration




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    Brilliant, Kister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kister View Post


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    By using the hour hand with the bezel... you are effectively having a 12 hour chrono.

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    I put different dial, and like this look better now












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    I think you're in the wrong job
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    Make it a lefty and I'm in!

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    Hell yeah, perfect.

    Make this one happen and I'll sign up for 2

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    What are we looking at... 42mm?

    I also think it should be a Smiths, perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    What are we looking at... 42mm?

    I also think it should be a Smiths, perhaps.
    Definitely Precista for me.

    42mm would be a great size for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    Definitely Precista for me.

    42mm would be a great size for it.
    +1 for Precista branding.....but -1 for 42mm, 40mm max for me, 38mm would be very brave but interesting, particularly if looking at the suggested thin bezel on the thinking mans Speedmaster!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    Definitely Precista for me.

    42mm would be a great size for it.
    That size is already covered by the A13. 40mm please.

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    The PRS40 design is the best yet - by far - love it, most original take I've seen on this concept

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    It's borderline for me at 42mm.
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    Finally! Have been checking this thread for years.

    Can't wait.

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    Fabulous news!!

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    Which movement is going to be used?
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    I’m 100% in at any size it looks amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Which movement is going to be used?
    ETA 251.264 BD

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    For me the mission timer is crying out to be in the same case as the original prs-17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    For me the mission timer is crying out to be in the same case as the original prs-17.
    I couldn’t disagree more. Take a look at the A13-a to see how a case should be done. If a bezel was added it would be great. The x33 type case would be a vast improvement on the PRS17

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    Quote Originally Posted by David@ View Post
    I couldn’t disagree more. Take a look at the A13-a to see how a case should be done. If a bezel was added it would be great. The x33 type case would be a vast improvement on the PRS17
    I've always been a big fan of the look of the PRS17 overall.

    I don't know if the planned movement would fit the original case design, but I think the x33 case is a bit OTT, although once you remove a lot of the buttons, I guess it'd look quite different to an x33...

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    Sorry, me too. The old 17C is a very unsophisticated case design, with its square lugs, flat internal lug gap, simple crown guards and total lack of facets and chamfers.
    To go back to that would be (for me) a mistake.
    I am not suggesting this needs bombe lugs or anything purely decorative like that, but something a little more shapely than the 17C, for sure.
    The A-13A is a reasonable comparison, it looks very purposeful and tool-ish whilst retaining a little elegance.
    The Lemania 817 case (as used for the SwAF and SAAF Lemanias and later developed into the Sinn case for most of their chronos) is also a good basic chrono case.
    The Cairelli case design is also lovely, but almost entirely functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Sorry, me too. The old 17C is a very unsophisticated case design, with its square lugs, flat internal lug gap, simple crown guards and total lack of facets and chamfers.
    To go back to that would be (for me) a mistake.
    I am not suggesting this needs bombe lugs or anything purely decorative like that, but something a little more shapely than the 17C, for sure.
    The A-13A is a reasonable comparison, it looks very purposeful and tool-ish whilst retaining a little elegance.
    The Lemania 817 case (as used for the SwAF and SAAF Lemanias and later developed into the Sinn case for most of their chronos) is also a good basic chrono case.
    The Cairelli case design is also lovely, but almost entirely functional.

    D

    All very true, but assuming we're talking about the same watch, the A-13A's case looks very generic to me.

    The old 17C case is no-nonsense, like the Ploprof. Those missing facets and chamfers you bemoan are a big part of the appeal for me and it would fit a niche in my collection nothing else occupies.

    A chrono with a generic case and a bezel, less so.

    Each to their own, of course, and I'm sure Eddie has his own, strong ideas on what he sees this watch being and he's usually been proved right before.

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    I love centre minute chronos but in that PRS 40 case, I’m out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyJack View Post
    I love centre minute chronos but in that PRS 40 case, I’m out!
    It'll certainly be an unusual design, but not one I've ever found attractive.

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    Not bothered about the date and I tend to agree with Sweets on this one, it upsets the symmetry as it seems a bit 'off'.

    I like the countdown bezel best, if you're choosing between the two.

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    Looks pretty good. But certainly hoping Eddie will release both date & non-date option for order and also extra bezel included for GMT or countdown function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-STV View Post
    Looks pretty good. But certainly hoping Eddie will release both date & non-date option for order and also extra bezel included for GMT or countdown function.

    Me too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-STV View Post
    Looks pretty good. But certainly hoping Eddie will release both date & non-date option for order and also extra bezel included for GMT or countdown function.

    Me too!

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    I really like it, the only thing that jars slightly for me is the Precista font. I think something less fancy would work better on that dial.

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