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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
    I am still saddened that we lost the green tip to the second hand along the way, but still I suspect I would buy this.
    Ditto, and maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
    I am still saddened that we lost the green tip to the second hand along the way, but still I suspect I would buy this.

    Just out of pure curiosity, could you, and/or anybody else preferring it, please say why you like the idea of the dark British Racing Green (?) colour tip to the second hand?

    I ask because just like the same colour font "SEAFIRE" on the black dial nearly disappears into it, so does the dark green tip of the second hand as CP rendered it at post #44 earlier in this thread and put up below. As such, the visible white portion of the second hand doen't even come near reaching the hash marks of the second/minute chapter


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    I prefer the aesthetic of the green tip, and I have never had a problem being able to extrapolate the position of a second hand to the position of the minute indices. In addition the point when the index "disappears" as the second hand passes over it would allow an accurate reading to be made.

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    So, if this is quartz, will the hands line up with the markers?
    "Bite my shiny metal ass."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooo View Post
    So, if this is quartz, will the hands line up with the markers?
    I really, really, really hope so. ;-)



    P.S. I like the green top second hand version too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollon View Post
    Just out of pure curiosity, could you, and/or anybody else preferring it, please say why you like the idea of the dark British Racing Green (?) colour tip to the second hand?

    I ask because just like the same colour font "SEAFIRE" on the black dial nearly disappears into it, so does the dark green tip of the second hand as CP rendered it at post #44 earlier in this thread and put up below. As such, the visible white portion of the second hand doen't even come near reaching the hash marks of the second/minute chapter
    No idea... I don't know why I prefer silver hands on black dials to black on white - I just do :)

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    Thanks for the responses to that question I asked on the green tipped second hand. I think the reason I don't personally like the idea is because what I like best about this watch aesthetically is the simplicity of it, which would be why I don’t like the “100M” WR rating cluttering or complicating the dial either.

    If a green tipped second hand were to be chosen for this one, though, and I otherwise very much liked the construction/specs, etc., this watch was finalized with, I don't think a green tipped second hand would be something that would deter me even if I didn't like that small detail. The same would go for the “100M”.

    Just objectively, or trying to be, though, if the second hand of this watch does end up tipped with colour, I think it would go over better with a broader range of buyers if the hi-vis white portion of the second hand were a bit longer than CP rendered previously and went all the way to touching on the dial's second/minute hash marks with only the section of the tip extending "into" the hash marks painted dark green.

    Doing it that way I assume would also still, as Neil T described above, make each second/minute hash mark "disappear" in succession as the darkened tip passed over each (given ideal second hand indexing if the movement is quartz as Stooo brought up above)


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    Ergonomically things are better being lit than blanked out as far as highlighting is concerned. I'm afraid that were I professionally advising on colour separation for legibility purposes, I'd have to say that green and black are perceptually far less distinct than white. From a functional perspective I'd recommend keeping the second hand white or replacing the green with a more distinct colour - yellow or orange for example. I understand that the green has been chosen for aesthetic reasons (and I'm sympathetic to that) if this watch is intended to replicate the functionality of instrumentation then I fear that green is a poor choice and feels like the necessary balance between functional and aesthetic were too much in favour of the aesthetic.

    As my eyes get older I find that silvered hands can be difficult to read due to glare and reflection particularly under artificial lighting and depending upon the width of the silvered part of the hands. It is perhaps the only criticism that I'd level against the PRS-10. So, for me, I'd prefer the hand set to be white.

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    I get a gut feeling, that as Eddie has the Seafire NATOs being delivered soon he has definitely made his decision on the colour of the second hand by now...

    I can't wait to see it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    I get a gut feeling, that as Eddie has the Seafire NATOs being delivered soon he has definitely made his decision on the colour of the second hand by now...

    I can't wait to see it!
    I would agree its unlikely this is up for debate!

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    Very sad seeing this thread drop off the first page....anyone hear anything new? (hint, hint, Eddie???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    Very sad seeing this thread drop off the first page....anyone hear anything new? (hint, hint, Eddie???)
    Well I've got the straps.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Well I've got the straps.

    Eddie
    What a tease!

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    Looks really nice , i recently bought an Everest and im really pleased so would love to own one of these ....

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    I went to Sunderland Aircraft Museum where I've being doing voluntary work and took a picture in the cockpit , any use ?
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    I know there a bit to far away but here's the navigation desk ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    Below is an illustration created in Illustrator:


    Found this on another thread and I really like the dimensions on this illustration!
    But I have a question: what΄s the reason for the outer line on the black dial, in comparison with the white one?
    Personally I prefer the solution without that line.

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    Hmmm...

    Reminds me of all that I΄ve grown to like on WISdom. Good work!

    For me the selling points would be:

    200m WR
    Ceramic case
    A tad thicker numbers/slightly narrower hands

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    Think that this is the ONE!

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    ^^^ agree but with both NATO and leather strap in the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
    I am still saddened that we lost the green tip to the second hand along the way, but still I suspect I would buy this.
    It is a lovely looking thing, and while I know it is far too late to influence anything that may be afoot production wise a suggestion for the contentious green accent; how about transfering the it to the other end of the second hand, making the 'ball' on the short side of the hand green?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanST150 View Post
    ^^^ agree but with both NATO and leather strap in the box.
    And a BANDA 2-watch travel case?:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
    I am still saddened that we lost the green tip to the second hand along the way, but still I suspect I would buy this.
    Who told you that?

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Who told you that?

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    Eddie - which of the several versions pictured / discussed on this thread is the final one for production ?

    cheers :)

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfaman View Post
    Eddie - which of the several versions pictured / discussed on this thread is the final one for production ?

    cheers :)

    David
    The one I'll be taking pictures of when it arrives.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coot View Post
    A brilliant restoration, that Guy deserves a free Seafire watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The one I'll be taking pictures of when it arrives.

    Eddie
    Not like the boss to be coy on the final design

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    Eddie - Is there any chance you could let us know when you are expecting this to be ready?

    I need to fulfil my urge for a PVD watch!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuS View Post
    Eddie - Is there any chance you could let us know when you are expecting this to be ready?

    I need to fulfil my urge for a PVD watch!!
    I've submitted the design & spec and I'm now waiting for a price.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've submitted the design & spec and I'm now waiting for a price.

    Eddie
    Excellent, thanks for the update Eddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Who told you that?

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    It was the impression I got from the group! If I am wrong then I will be Pleased :)

    I do hope the price comes in at less than my Short Term Toy Budget :)

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    It's been fascinating to read this thread in it's entirety in one hit!

    Love the design and whole reason of this watch and as I have been on the lookout for an 'all black' watch (excuse technical terms!), have subscribed to the mailshot as suggested above, so as not to miss out on further news of its availability.

    I have been seriously considering the Hamilton khaki automatic with black dial and black fabric strap, or the CW Typhoon.

    But will now sit tight and await developments.

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    Am looking forward to seeing this appearing on the Timefactors site, and hoping that I can afford it as and when it arrives! Looks like there is a lot of interest - fingers crossed they don't all get snaffled up by the time I try and place an order...

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've submitted the design & spec and I'm now waiting for a price.

    Eddie
    Great, great!

    What about the BANDA 2-watch travel case as complimentary package? (still curious)

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    I'm late to this party...

    Any update on this one? it's a lovely thing.

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    Add my name to the list of wanting one!

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    Speke Marin just released their first chronograph called... The Spirit Seafire
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    Quote Originally Posted by gray View Post
    Speke Marin just released their first chronograph called... The Spirit Seafire
    Hmmm...but that doesn't look as nice :-)

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    Just wondering what the latest is on this? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAS118 View Post
    Just wondering what the latest is on this? :-)
    Still plodding along.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Have a Bulova RAF MK 4B panel clock, kind of similar but with green minute markers.

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    Really looking forward to this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Have a Bulova RAF MK 4B panel clock, kind of similar but with green minute markers.

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    Looks like this is one of the most highly viewed threads on the Time Factors Watches forum. Seems like lots of folks are looking forward to this one - I sure am.

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    Keep it simple

    I have followed this from the beginning and really looking forward to this one,really miss those Banda cases though.

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    Looking forward to this. I really like PVD watches

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    I've never owned an 'Eddie' watch or a PVD/DLC one either - this will be my first. I'm really looking forward to seeing it as it progresses.

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    How long until I can put my name down on the list for one of these?

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    I'm pretty sure our host doesn't do lists.

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