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    Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Couldn't find an option to make it a Sticky but the title should make searches easy.


    Stainless steel case, 44mm x 44mm
    Half-wire lugs, removable by screws
    Domed sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating on the underside
    8mm diamond crown
    100 metres water resistant
    Black sandwich dial with SuperLuminova C3
    Blued steel hands with Superluminova C3
    Screwed back with sapphire insert, anti-reflective coating on the underside
    Movement
    Unitas 6498-1 soigné (18,000 bph)
    Decorated with Geneva stripes
    Screwed balance
    Blued screws
    Blued steel swan-neck regulator

    Fitted with a tan leather strap with signed fishtail buckle.

    The non-limited edition version will be identical specification except the movement will be the standard Unitas 6498-1 and it won't have a view back.

    LE has been sold out for months.



    Tech drawings



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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Jr
    Couldn't find an option to make it a Sticky but the title should make searches easy.
    Thanks Ron Jr, I just tried to search these yesterday - also tried with "Italiano specs" :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Thanks!

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    Please excuse this question if it has been asked and answered in the past.

    Will the strap require tubes as in the wider lug widths of the other Italian-style watches, or will the straps necesarily need to be of a somewhat thicker composition without tubes?

    Thanks, in advance, to all who reply.

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    That's gonna be some bitchin' homage watch. If I ever get one (very likely) I'm gonna try putting a 24mm strap on it with notches so it will fit. :twisted:

    ...although Eddie told me that mine would be booby trapped with explosives so I can't remove the lugs. :shock: :lol:

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    Thank you, Ron :) A concise overview of a very interesting project.

    Cheers,
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    Hurry Eddie, the pound is almost 2:1. Pretty soon It'll be 2.5:1. As we say on the game boards, Oh Noes!!111. The dollar is sinking into the sunset. Worlok, I couldn't have said it better, one bitchin' watch!

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    Dial pic.


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    Possible buckles.




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    Straps






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    Inspiration for the hands. Sorry I couldn't find a pic of the actual hands.



    An example of how the blue will look.


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    Thanks for puting it all together for easy viewing Ron,

    but a Darlek avatar? I didn't know you are a Whovian as well!

    On another note, maybe you can help me out. Or maybe someone can. I can't figure out how to get an avatar photo small enough to use here. No matter how I adjust it with my program here, I can't get it under the 6mb maximum. Any tips for me?
    TIA,
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    Nice work, ron - all the news that's fit to print! :)

    (And Mr. Boots - there' a max size, both in pixels and in memory used. Try getting a smaller pic, maybe 100x60 pix max. That should do it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Jr
    Reserve list as of May 21 2006.

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    Looking at the list of reserved LE's there will not be many pulling out. :D glad I got my name in early.
    paul. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandylegss
    Looking at the list of reserved LE's there will not be many pulling out. :D glad I got my name in early.
    paul. :P
    Ditto! Been after a watch in this style for ages, don't want to fork out thousands for a Panerai & Eddie's looks to be at least as good for an exceptional price!

    Mind you the wait is beginning to hurt! But it'll all be worth it when the postman comes a-knocking ..

    /vince ..
    /vince ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceR
    Quote Originally Posted by bandylegss
    Looking at the list of reserved LE's there will not be many pulling out. :D glad I got my name in early.
    paul. :P
    Ditto! Been after a watch in this style for ages, don't want to fork out thousands for a Panerai & Eddie's looks to be at least as good for an exceptional price!

    Mind you the wait is beginning to hurt! But it'll all be worth it when the postman comes a-knocking ..

    /vince ..
    I agree, it 'Hurts like Hell' but as the saying goes......... 'All good things.......'

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    Is the reserve list available for publication please?

    Dunk
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    here it is Dunk.

    http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18616

    scroll down 7 posts
    Paul. :D

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    NOW WITH 24mm LUGS

    Thanks
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    Is it a screw-in crown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    .
    Is it a screw-in crown?

    john
    Hi John

    Its a screw crown as shown in this pix that was posted a short while back:



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    It's also a de-coupling crown so it doesn't break the mainspring when you screw it in. :wink:

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Does the handwinding movement have a power reserve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvinktlim
    Does the handwinding movement have a power reserve?
    The 18,000 BPH Unitas has a 48-55 hours PR.

    john

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    It's also a de-coupling crown so it doesn't break the mainspring when you screw it in. :wink:

    Eddie
    Good idea Eddie; a broken mainspring is why my Plasmir Milgraph never gets wound up. If you're using a screw down crown, there must be something to protect the mainspring from getting broken. There's nothing like a $1,000 watch that won't run when the spring doesn't respond when you wind up the watch crown by showing resistance so that you know the watch is fully wound.

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    Non-LE Price?

    What is the price for one of Eddie's PRS-20 (non-LE) watches? I've been looking all over the site for it, but must have missed it somehow.

    Cheers!
    - K.B.

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    Good question.

    It seems Eddie has ended his vacation a little early, what with the return of the "Add To Basked" button and addition of the PRS-20 and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean in Canuckistan
    Good question.

    It seems Eddie has ended his vacation a little early, what with the return of the "Add To Basked" button and addition of the PRS-20 and all.
    What does 'In Stock' mean? What's the price?

    john

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    Didn't Eddie say somewhere that he was still waiting for the final invoice from Herr Fricker to find out what they had actually cost him?

    If you want to guestimate it, try taking off the cost of the 4 watch case and a couple of extra straps from the LE price and round it down a bit for the solid back and std movement.



    Or you can wait for Fricker to start back to work and send Eddie the invoice. Maybe all of these first 10 won't have been ordered by then :twisted: :twisted:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD
    Didn't Eddie say somewhere that he was still waiting for the final invoice from Herr Fricker to find out what they had actually cost him?

    If you want to guestimate it, try taking off the cost of the 4 watch case and a couple of extra straps from the LE price and round it down a bit for the solid back and std movement. ...
    IIRC you'd have to keep in mind that Eddie ate much of the cost increase on the LE, so figuring something close to the LE price might not put you out of the ballpark.

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    Non LE Price?

    Dean writes: "...figuring something close to the LE price might not put you out of the ballpark."

    Timing is everything. By the time I looked, the only price I was able to find for the LE version was "Sold Out."

    Is anyone willing to reveal the original price of the LE version?

    I know that several PRS-20 LE watches have sold on the forum, but don't know whether those prices were higher or lower than the new price.

    With other items, I've found that "if I had to ask the price, I couldn't afford them."

    Sigh...

    -K.B.

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    LE price was £550. I always heard that Eddie was pitching the non-LE in the £350 sort of price range, but exact figures depend on the final invoice.
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    Non LE price

    Thanks for that, Dave.

    Now that Eddie's gone and posted such a low price for the Non-LE Italian, I have to give it serious consideration. As long as it was firmly "out of reach," I didn't have to worry about it...

    Cheers!
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    Re: Non LE price

    Quote Originally Posted by Kettlebelly
    Thanks for that, Dave.

    Now that Eddie's gone and posted such a low price for the Non-LE Italian, I have to give it serious consideration. As long as it was firmly "out of reach," I didn't have to worry about it...

    Cheers!
    -K.B.
    Do it! :twisted:

    I very much like my LE, and that price for the non-LE is particularly good value IMHO...
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    Back in stock. Damn. My watch budget is dead this side of Christmas... :?

    Mind, I do have a 97% titanium Marine Militare homage I could put on SC; I've hardly worn it since I've bought so many other watches these past few weeks.

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    how many turns are needed to fully wind it?

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by DimGR
    how many turns are needed to fully wind it?
    How long is your stroke?

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by DimGR
    how many turns are needed to fully wind it?
    How long is your stroke?

    Eddie
    i do not get it :( :roll:

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by DimGR
    i do not get it :( :roll:
    How big are your 'turns'? Give the crown a realy roll, the length of your thumb, and it'll take fewer turns. My Panerai takes 20 turns for a 24-hour period of wear. Does that help?

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    I can't remember how many winds it takes from stopped up to the top but wearing it every day and winding it first thing in the morning, it takes 13 - 15 winds to take it back to the top. I suppose it takes fewer winds than other Unitas-based watches I've owned because of the comparatively large crown.

    Eddie
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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I suppose it takes fewer winds than other Unitas-based watches I've owned because of the comparatively large crown.

    Eddie
    Wouldn't that have the opposite effect? If each turn involves running your thumb up a couple of cm, when the crown is big, its circumference is big, so that couple of cm means a fewer number of turns?

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I suppose it takes fewer winds than other Unitas-based watches I've owned because of the comparatively large crown.

    Eddie
    Wouldn't that have the opposite effect? If each turn involves running your thumb up a couple of cm, when the crown is big, its circumference is big, so that couple of cm means a fewer number of turns?
    1. Isn't that what is known as 'gearing'? :scratch:

    2. It also depends on the length of the thumb and what Eddie defined as 'the stroke'.

    We need a formula. Something like ... "The angle of the dangle is twice the heat of the meat." :|

    john

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    has the unitas been regulated / adjusted etc by FRicker or not?

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by DimGR
    has the unitas been regulated / adjusted etc by FRicker or not?
    Yes, it has.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    do the arms line up 100% with each other when they are fully screwed?

    mine do not

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    Love this watch i hope one dat to be on the role of honour.

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    Any word on availability?

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    I love my PRS-20. Got it two weeks ago and it didn't get of my wrist since then.

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    Re: Italian - PRS-20 Specs

    And a Havana Leather 24mm Toshi w/Royal Blue Stitching is a must.

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    Love this watch

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