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    Let's raise some money for charity - UPDATE PAGE 6

    I know most of us on the forum contribute to our favourite charities but I'd like to raise enough money to make a significant difference to a few charities. Here's what I'm asking you to do:

    Each evening, put all the loose change from your pockets into a container and do this every evening for a month; based on my own experience it's easy to save £20 in a month.

    Now here's where it potentially gets very interesting: the forum has 3,386 active members which multiplied by £20 each = £67,720! If we select up to 10 charities and divide the money equally between them, that's a significant sum for each of them.

    I realise not everyone will participate but I still think we could raise a substantial sum and fund something really worthwhile.

    I've spoken with my bank about opening an account to receive funds but they require a written constitution, nominated officers and all manner of other things and I really don't want to go there. If anyone has experience of something like this and has any ideas how to efficiently receive and distribute funds to multiple charities, I'd like to hear from you.

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    Eddie you also need to consider the "tax saving" thing as it adds a few quid to the pot

    Banks are funny about stuff like this and also the "taxman" has stuck his oar in in the past

    It is certainly doable and I would be interested to read the comments of others

    Then - maybe there will be a "heated" discussion about which charities ........

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    The problem could well be which charities, as Bill has mentioned. Can't see a universally agreed way of doing this - and I think if there's to be a choice then only those who contribute should have a say in it ;-) - so how about raising the money first and then having that debate? Alternatively, I'd accept Eddie makes the choices...

    Whatever, I'm in!

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    What about a suggested voluntary monthly subscription to TZ of something like £5, all to charity? We could submit charity suggestions to Eddie and he could choose which ones receive the money each year. Even if just 100 users did it there'd be £6,000 per year straight away.
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    Whereas I can't offer any advice on how to manage the fund, I will pledge some money.

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    Have you tried a site like Justgiving.com? Might take some of the administrative burden out of it?

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    Can we not just create a Justgiving page for each of the nominated charities and then contribute via that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie42 View Post
    Hello All,
    ArchieLuxury graciously accepts all donations......

    He is a cool guy......

    It costs a bomb to run the channel and make lots of videos..... Archie is now saving up for a better camera - Nikon D800E ..... but they are so $$$$$$

    Please let me know if you want me to talk to Archie.... he is also happy to do requests with all donations received.

    Kind regards

    ARCHIELUXURY
    I have a request for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie42 View Post
    Hello All,
    ArchieLuxury graciously accepts all donations......

    He is a cool guy......

    It costs a bomb to run the channel and make lots of videos..... Archie is now saving up for a better camera - Nikon D800E ..... but they are so $$$$$$

    Please let me know if you want me to talk to Archie.... he is also happy to do requests with all donations received.

    Kind regards

    ARCHIELUXURY
    How do I know my donations wont be spent on pies? (your pics speak for themselves)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie42 View Post
    Hello All,
    ArchieLuxury graciously accepts all donations......

    He is a cool guy......

    It costs a bomb to run the channel and make lots of videos..... Archie is now saving up for a better camera - Nikon D800E ..... but they are so $$$$$$

    Please let me know if you want me to talk to Archie.... he is also happy to do requests with all donations received.

    Kind regards

    ARCHIELUXURY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie42 View Post
    Hello All,
    ArchieLuxury graciously accepts all donations......

    He is a cool guy......

    It costs a bomb to run the channel and make lots of videos..... Archie is now saving up for a better camera - Nikon D800E ..... but they are so $$$$$$

    Please let me know if you want me to talk to Archie.... he is also happy to do requests with all donations received.

    Kind regards

    ARCHIELUXURY
    Hey Paul, have had a look at your videos quite funny! Good luck with the fund raising!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickChard View Post
    Whereas I can't offer any advice on how to manage the fund, I will pledge some money.

    Ditto. The least I can do for the benefits I get from this site. Great idea.

    I collect my small change in an old whisky bottle, I'll empty it for a contribution when the fund is set up.

    Wouldn't object to any of the charities quoted, child/health orientated ones would be my preference.


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    A good idea. I'll pitch in once any gift-aid issues are resolved and the charities chosen.

    I guess it will be easy to use sales corner to support this. FSFC with the buyer paying the money straight in.

    Cheers - Simon

    Edit - also a good way for newbies to introduce themselves.
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    Good call, it helps put into perspective what we "waste" on watches.

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    I also can't give any advice as to how to do this but I will certainly participate. Great idea. A swear box in the bear pit for a week ....how much would that raise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Each evening, put all the loose change from your pockets into a container and do this every evening for a month
    I have done this for the last few years and put the money into a Kiva-account.
    Earlier this money just went to snacks, now it put to better use time and time again.

    for thinking of setting something up.

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    I am in. Either pick one of the online charity services or let Eddie administer the money.

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    May I suggest:

    Cancer Research UK
    Help For Heroes
    Royal National Lifeboats Institution
    SHELTER
    The Royal British Legion
    Guide Dogs For The Blind Association
    Age UK
    Macmillan Cancer Support
    The Great Ormand Street Children's Hospital Charity
    Alzheimer's Society

    As far as I know with justgivin you can select one, or more, or all equally for your donation. That gives folks choice.
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    Im in. I reckon setting up a 'Justgiving' account/page is the way forward simply due to the ease of administration, no experience with backend of the operation though..

    if I may, I'd like to suggest the Dogs Trust to the list above ^^^
    So now we have a clown, a midget and hysterical swivel-eyed loony bint presiding over the circus, what can possibly go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray View Post
    May I suggest:

    Cancer Research UK
    Help For Heroes
    Royal National Lifeboats Institution
    SHELTER
    The Royal British Legion
    Guide Dogs For The Blind Association
    Age UK
    Macmillan Cancer Support
    The Great Ormand Street Children's Hospital Charity
    Alzheimer's Society

    As far as I know with justgivin you can select one, or more, or all equally for your donation. That gives folks choice.
    I don't want to come over as a kill joy, but as someone who works for several charities. There is a great in balance on some charities standing.
    Guide Dogs for the Blind have millions in the bank, they employ very few blind people, I have several blind friends who are very anti this organisation. They have been investigated on several occasions as to miss use of funds. They own masses of property much of it on the Isle of Man.

    Many years ago I fund raised for Macmillan, because they cared for my cousins wife who passed away from the dreadful disease. I raised £3,500 by a sponsored swim (I swam 3 miles... not bad with one leg). The treatment I received from the organisation was appalling, I won't go into details on here, but I vowed never to raise funds for them again. My wife had a similar ordeal with SCOPE.

    Raising funds for Charities is great, I do it all the time I'm a trustee of two. But be very careful of who you are raising money for and how the funds are intended to be used. I will participate if the right organisations are chosen.

    Amongst the Army benevolent charities Help for Heroes have been receiving some very bad press. BLESMA do not like attending events that they are in attendance at, the Legion have the same feelings. Anyhow I've said enough just be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildheart View Post
    I don't want to come over as a kill joy, but as someone who works for several charities. There is a great in balance on some charities standing.
    Guide Dogs for the Blind have millions in the bank, they employ very few blind people, I have several blind friends who are very anti this organisation. They have been investigated on several occasions as to miss use of funds. They own masses of property much of it on the Isle of Man.

    Many years ago I fund raised for Macmillan, because they cared for my cousins wife who passed away from the dreadful disease. I raised £3,500 by a sponsored swim (I swam 3 miles... not bad with one leg). The treatment I received from the organisation was appalling, I won't go into details on here, but I vowed never to raise funds for them again. My wife had a similar ordeal with SCOPE.

    Raising funds for Charities is great, I do it all the time I'm a trustee of two. But be very careful of who you are raising money for and how the funds are intended to be used. I will participate if the right organisations are chosen.

    Amongst the Army benevolent charities Help for Heroes have been receiving some very bad press. BLESMA do not like attending events that they are in attendance at, the Legion have the same feelings. Anyhow I've said enough just be careful.
    I agree that charities need choosing very carefully; there are some charities that I would not wish to donate to - especially those known to be very buoyant with funds. I'm already a volunteer worker with a major charity and for this reason would not wish to give them more of my resources - I'd prefer to donate to another good charitable cause. Rather than make a list of favourite charities it might be best just to leave the beneficiaries to Eddie - thus avoiding squabbling amongst ourselves. And it might be best to donate to them one charity at a time - with each 'collection' being active/live for one month at a time. Then after 12 months, 12 charities would have benefitted. There will aways be 'disasters' occuring in the world for which some members would wish to make donations and thus suggest we make exceptions - but maybe we need to draw up strict guidelines and only collect for those charities within eg the 12 month plan list. If we try and assist too many charities they could end up receiving negligible amounts. And we need a system whereby we can monitor exactly how much we donate.

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    Re: Let's raise some money for charity

    Brilliant idea I'm in :)

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    Count me in too.

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    Justgiving take more of the money for their own "costs" at 5% - virgin money giving are significantly better taking only 2%, and let you split the supported charities as you choose.

    JG charge their fee on the total including gift aid, whereas the VM fee is based on the original donation with gift aid left untouched.

    With just giving, if you donate £10 and claim gift aid, the charity receive £11.74

    With virginmoney giving, that same £10 with gift aid means the charity receive £12.15

    In the interests of full disclosure I work for virgin money (but not the charity side)
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    I'm a bit hard-up at the moment but more than happy to contribute if/where I can.

    Here's a suggestion - how about a rolling charity page on the sale corner? If anyone has any bits they wish to donate ('beaters', straps, boxes - whatever) then perhaps a sort of rolling raffle.

    For example, I've a couple of really nice straps I've been holding on to but can't quite match to a watch. I'll start the ball rolling by donating those.
    I'll do it on Wed's when I've got my camera.
    Anyone who wishes to take them can stick their name down, and after 48 hours I'll pick a name out of the hat (good ol' random number generator) and post them off.
    Each name on the list donates a couple of quid to the forum pot. I suppose the recommended donation can vary depending on the quality of the give-away.
    Might be an idea to just keep a track of how many draws you've entered (might only be for one item, or you might have fancied half a dozen that month) and make one payment at the end of the month to whatever the account is.
    Trust will play a part, but I'm sure 99% of the folk on here will play honestly as a charity fund-raiser.

    Worth saving up for a whole year? Or maybe make a quarterly donation so that 4 charities can benefit?

    It'll be a pain choosing a charity, but a poll is easy enough to set up or another random name out of the hat chooses.

    I think it's a cracking idea anyway, and should score us all some good karma for 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    Justgiving take more of the money for their own "costs" at 5% - virgin money giving are significantly better taking only 2%, and let you split the supported charities as you choose.

    JG charge their fee on the total including gift aid, whereas the VM fee is based on the original donation with gift aid left untouched.

    With just giving, if you donate £10 and claim gift aid, the charity receive £11.74

    With virginmoney giving, that same £10 with gift aid means the charity receive £12.15

    In the interests of full disclosure I work for virgin money (but not the charity side)
    Thanks, I've followed this up and hope it will prove positive. I looked at Just Giving and thought their fees were higher than they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    Justgiving take more of the money for their own "costs" at 5% - virgin money giving are significantly better taking only 2%, and let you split the supported charities as you choose.

    JG charge their fee on the total including gift aid, whereas the VM fee is based on the original donation with gift aid left untouched.

    With just giving, if you donate £10 and claim gift aid, the charity receive £11.74

    With virginmoney giving, that same £10 with gift aid means the charity receive £12.15

    In the interests of full disclosure I work for virgin money (but not the charity side)

    It would probably make sense to do a virgin money page if its the cheapest and wouldnt require someone putting in lots of work. as it would the simplest way to do it , well I assume .

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    Re: Let's raise some money for charity

    Indeed .After much contemplation I have decided that 2013 is the year a start to give something back, I've spent too long taking things for granted not bothered which needy cause is decided upon I'm sure they will put it to better use.

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    Nominate just one charity EACH WEEK and then each TZ UK donor pays the charity direct - ONLINE - and each donor makes a copy of the online receipt they issue and post a copy of it in the respective charity thread started by whoever is nominated or volunteers to do the admin for the thread that week ... then add up all the amounts or keep a spread sheet ... thus Charity XYZ gets ££N for that week ... then new thread starts for Charity NPQ the following week etc etc ... and TZ UK SC could sell items for those charities ... but not auctions - that could become unmanageable and get out of hand - straight sales only - with buyer posting the purchase price direct to the charity - and maybe seller matching it ... I sold a diary last week with proceeds to Alexandra Bastedo's Animal Sanctuary ... buyer posted his donation receipt to the charity and i matched it ... it's feasible .. and that way no middle man taking admin fees. And we could print off the thread with all the charity's receipts and send it to the charity with a covering letter saying ... " ... pleased to advise you that TZ UK has raised ££nn for your charity as per copy receipts attached .... Yours sincerely ... " .

    Try it for one charity as a test run ... if it works continue .. if it does not work it was worth a try .

    As long as the charity issues online receipts (maybe showing 'on behalf of TZ UK' ) and donor can copy same and post it on the thread it should work fine.

    But raise ££ for just one charity at a time ... dont try and squeeze too many in all at once .. if it's going to run and run all nominated charities will benefit eventually

    I raised ££ for a good cause 5 years ago via this forum with donors sending me cheques and BTs to my bank account ... I volunteered to to do the admin ... it was very time consuming trying to identify actual donors' ££ and chasing up those who promised but never coughed up ... some members very happy to promise ££ but did not follow through ... then they queried me asking them for the ££ they had promised ... was a nightmare ... all was done with Eddie's permission ... and final proceeds all handed over to Eddie via a cheque with a reconciliation ... but was not the best way to raise ££ as was administrative nightmare ... reconciliation was horrendous as banks used cryptic credit references ... thus had maybe ten donations of ten pounds each with no actual donor names or initials ... to keep costs down Paypal was not used.

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    Eddie, great idea count me in for £20 once the admin is sorted. Its small potatoes in relation to all the hours of fun i have had on this forum.
    Best wishes to you all
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    Great idea, I'd personally prefer to go for a subscription based set-up
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    I give enough every month to my favourite charities but I'm sure I could find some stuff from the cupboard of delights that could be sold in the future with the buyers sending the money straight to Eddie's charitable fund.
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    Let's raise some money for charity

    I don't think you want to be a charity in this case Eddie. If you just collect and immediately distribute to established charities I don't see a massive issue.

    What about justgiving or whatever it was theoatmeal used to sort out the Tesla museum?
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    Anything that donates to a charity fighting Prostate Cancer not only has my vote but cash and without being sexist i guess most people on TZ are chaps, so how about it. As many chaps die of Prostate cancer a year as women of breast cancer but prostate cancer gets only a fraction of the funding that breast cancer does. Thats just my tuppence worth really!

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    Splendid idea, count me in and I already have a tinful of change.

    Justgiving or Virgin seems to be the choice of most of the sponsored fund raising events that I have contributed to in the past.

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    How about all of us with eBay accounts pick something, sell it on there and mark it as all for the same charity? We could do it every month... I am sure I could find an item a month in the clutter that is my life, and it means all the money end is taken care of by someone else.

    EDIT:- In fact, I have this incoming;



    Purchased because I had a £20 Amazon voucher and it cost (including delivery) £20... and because I have a soft spot for indiglo ;)

    Would be happy to donate it to a cause ;)
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    I donate 10% of my net salary a year and am happy to commit to helping divert some of those funds here.

    However, I am very fussy as to where the cash goes. If we choose individual charities that I agree with then I'm in, but if there's a general pool of recipients I will not contribute and will carry on on my own path as usual.

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    Great idea, happy to donate Eddie as it is the least I can do to support. Considering you make no charge for membership here, this gives all of us the chance to do something to say thanks.
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    If we can get the formalities sorted out, then I am also in. I do already donate - and I am one of those that gets pissed off by the chuggers!!

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    In addition to the loose change idea, if this is to be an open-ended collection, then I would quite gladly donate £1 every time I put an item up for sale on SC - although I have never put anything up for sale yet.

    Maybe others would like to do the same and, yes, it could get expensive for some people

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    Re: Let's raise some money for charity

    Quote Originally Posted by Skier View Post
    Great idea; I'm in! I'd like to propose adding the George Daniels' Educational Trust.
    Ohhh... didnt know there was one!

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    It will be a gratifying way to register appreciation for TZ-UK.

    I hope that the account will include the facility for a monthly payment, however small - much easier and more effective than trying to remember to do one-offs.

    I propose Christian Aid - one of the great relief agencies, active in practical ways in many suffering communities in the poorest parts of the world.

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    Must be Tapatalk, I can't see a banner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Must be Tapatalk, I can't see a banner
    It is Tapatalk but here's the link - http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/team/tz-uk2015

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    Cheers donation made

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