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Thread: A Black Dial Ploprof?

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    A Black Dial Ploprof?

    Whats going on here then?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120981181654?

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    Grand Master JasonM's Avatar
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    It's either very dark blue or a fake dial..... No such thing as a black dialled vintage PloProf....
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    It does say replacement dial, could it be possible?

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    Unless something's changed from Omega very recently then if it's black it's a fake aftermarket dial...
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    Fairly sure it's the standard modern dark blue replacement dial.
    With a non-AR coated mineral crystal especially (the most recent ones are sapphire with AR coating on inside) these can appear quite black in some lighting.
    The whole watch looks to be a put-together of modern replacement parts so I doubt the dial is actually black/fake.

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    Looks dark blue to me.

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    The seller does not seem to be the type to be selling fakes.

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    just learnt something new thanks.

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    Yes, the seller does appear to be legit, he's been around a while, but in his description he says the watch has been to Omega recently. Its clearly a service dial, luminova rather than tritium, but why a black one? If it were a fake, they would have replaced it with a blue one surely?

    And if its fake, then its a damn good one, I have never seen one that good before.

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    Hi

    Probably well worth a read re sm600 dials:

    http://ploprof.com/Site/PloProfDials.html

    Best - Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    Hi

    Probably well worth a read re sm600 dials:

    http://ploprof.com/Site/PloProfDials.html

    Best - Neil

    I think all us Ploprof fans would have read that at some time, actually there is more info on the black dials on this page...

    http://www.ploprof.com/Site/Fake%20PloProfs.html

    And those fake black dials that JonW shows are nothing like the new black dial we see on ebay.

    Where are you Jon?

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    It's a standard SL dark blue replacement dial. It looks all legit to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michalko82 View Post
    It's a standard SL dark blue replacement dial. It looks all legit to me.
    I agree, but while he describes it as being black in the ebay listing he will be putting many off.....
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    Just had a reply to my PM from the seller, which suggests that the watch is a full restoration by Omega, not a new build from service parts, and also seems to suggest that the dial, fitted by Omega is indeed black!

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    Well, in that case something is not right, either he has got the colour wrong, or he has paperwork for another watch, or Omega has made a black dial when no vintage PloPlof ever had one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meinessex View Post
    Just had a reply to my PM from the seller, which suggests that the watch is a full restoration by Omega, not a new build from service parts, and also seems to suggest that the dial, fitted by Omega is indeed black!
    A replacement dial is a service part, not a restoration.
    And it sure looks like hands, button and bezel are brand spanking new replacement parts as well (all SL and no tritium).
    Like Jase I remain unconvinced that the dial is black IRL.

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    yep looks like the one i had, that dial is clearly dark blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meinessex View Post
    Just had a reply to my PM from the seller, which suggests that the watch is a full restoration by Omega, not a new build from service parts, and also seems to suggest that the dial, fitted by Omega is indeed black!
    Quote Originally Posted by S.L View Post
    A replacement dial is a service part, not a restoration.
    And it sure looks like hands, button and bezel are brand spanking new replacement parts as well (all SL and no tritium).
    Like Jase I remain unconvinced that the dial is black IRL.
    so this 1970's Omega is a bit like trigger's brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fords View Post
    so this 1970's Omega is a bit like trigger's brush.
    Probably more true than you think, I would guess that the only thing left from the 1970's is the serial number. ;-)

    Clearly everything visable is new, and if the case was so badly damaged it had to be replaced, then I guess that large parts of the movement were probably replaced too due to water ingress etc.

    But hey, Triggers broom is still triggers broom. ;-)

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    Thanks to Jase for pointing me at this thread, and yes there are no black dials in these watches. I reckon its blue and hes a bit colour insensitive to blue/black or just looking at the photos, which do look black, but im sure is just lighting.

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    Simply compare the color of the dial to the color of the black bezel and one can clearly see that it's dark blue. This is a helpful hint for any and all Ploprof photos, not just this particular one.

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    Rule # 4 - No black dialled vintage PloProfs

    Rule#5 - Never doubt the experts

    It is indeed blue. A darker shade of blue but blue nonetheless.

    Pic here with one of the other PloProf blue dials.




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