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    Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    My first ‘proper’ watch was the Speedmaster cal 1045 and ever since I have been a big fan of the central minute hand configuration for chronographs.

    The Omega cal 1045 movement in this watch is derived from probably the most well known movement of this type, the Lemania 5100:



    I have also been lucky enough to own the lump that is the Omega Speedmaster 125, that carries the Omega cal 1041, (derived from the Lemania 1341) and the movement that claims to be the first automatic winding chronometer rated chronograph.



    Obviously the primary supplier of this, (mechanical) style chrono movement is Lemania but the movement itself, (or derivatives thereof) has been used in a huge range of different manufacturers watches, including:

    Lemania themselves, Omega, Sinn, Tutima, Orfina, Heuer, (great guide here: http://www.onthedash.com/Guide/_Chronog ... 00_Series/ ) Wakmann, Tissot, B&R, Fortis and this list is far from exhaustive…

    (One I missed is Diavoli Rossi - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=227355 - surely the cheapest 5100 powered watch I have seen for a while!)

    My latest watch , (in case anyone missed it) also houses a 5100, the EZM1:



    Then there is also the quartz version used in Eddies PRS17 and a Revue Thomnen amongst others.

    Most lately there has been the Sinn EZM10 housing the SZ01 movement that Sinn developed from a base Valjoux 7750 to have the central minute counter and recording a full 60 minutes elapsed time.

    Next year rumour has it that Sinn will be releasing the new 140 range with the SZ01 movement – more here: http://tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=2211300 – some say, like the EZM10 it is overpriced and I tend to agree, although with the years of investment to create the SZ01 I suppose it’s understandable…

    Please share your thoughts on the central minute hand chrono layout – and more importantly post up your pics, the more the merrier, but it would be great to see some of the rarer watches with this configuration as well as the usual suspects!

    Cheers,

    Rob

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    The uppermost Omega has to me - a very appealling look.

    Classic design, ultra-clear markings............... a keeper.

    A

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    Arctos also with 5100 :D

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    Heuer 510.501 L5100; Lemania SAAF L5012; Tissot Navigator, L1343; EZM1 LE, L5100; Sinn 156, L5100; Lorenz Sub Pro, L5100 and Omega 376.0822 (Omega 1045/L5100)

    With two more on their way shortly - a Tutima Commando II and another Heuer (510.523).

    Can't beat 'em.

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    Past


    Lemania cal.1340


    Omega Seamaster ref.176.007 (cal.1040)


    Omega Speedmaster 125


    Omega Speedmaster ref.176.0012


    Omega Speedmaster ref.176.0015

    Present



    Tissot Navigators with Lemania cal.1343. AFAIK the only watch (with two dial variants) to ever house this movement

    Cheers,
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    this Sinn currently residing in sales corner


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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    That's an old picture. Some of these are no longer with me, but a few more have joined the survivors...


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    That's a nice looking 7A28 Seiko chronograph, but it doesn't have a chrono central minute hand! :scratch:

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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    That's an old picture. Some of these are no longer with me, but a few more have joined the survivors...

    Welcome to the forum Pascal. :)

    That's a pretty impressive collection :shock: , I spot a Speedy Grail and at least a couple of Sinns amongst all the rest... Would love to see some individual pics if you have some?

    Thanks for posting the group!

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    Well, that's going to be a long post then... :wink:




    1 ) Lemania 5100 chronograph, made in the 90s with a leftover case from the special series made by Lemania for Omega (FIFA chrono 11003) and Heuer (Cortina 510.513); it has both references engraved!




    2 ) Fortis Official Cosmonauts Chronograph, pilot's bezel version




    3 ) Tutima Military chronograph, stainless steel version




    4 ) Arctos BUND chronograph, issued (gone)




    5 ) Orfina Porsche Design BUND, issued




    6 ) Heuer Audi Sport




    7 ) Omega Speedmaster Automatic ref. 176.0012, a.k.a. "Mark 4.5"




    8 ) Omega Speedmaster Automatic ref. 376.0822, a.k.a. "The Grail"




    9 ) DPW Chrono Pilot "Aviazione Navale" (gone)




    10 ) DPW Chrono Pilot "Frecce Tricolori" (gone)




    11 ) Eberhard Chrono Master Frecce Tricolori (gone)




    12 ) North Eagles "6° Stormo" (gone)




    13 ) ZentRa Automatic Chronograph (gone)




    14 ) Revue Thommen Airspeed, 1st series (gone)




    15 ) Airway Monza (gone)




    16 ) Paul Picot U-Boot (gone)




    17 ) Lemania 5012 chronograph




    18 ) Hamilton Automatic Chronograph




    19 ) Hamilton Automatic Chronograph, burgundy dial (gone)




    20 ) Hamilton Soccer




    21 ) Eberhard Champion Mareoscope




    But wait, there's more! Those were either absent from the group picture or were acquired after it was taken...


    - Tutima Flieger F3




    - Sinn 157 stahl (gone)




    - Lorenz Automatic Chronograph




    - TAG Heuer Automatic Chronograph, Lemania 5012, ref. 510.501/12




    - Lorenz Crono Sub




    - Lemania cal. 1341 chrono


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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    I have an short post to offer:

    Dugena pvd



    Tourneau pvd



    Nivada




    Orfina FireMaster




    Lemania Fifa





    Tutima Comando





    Alain Silberstein Krono




    Sinn EZm 4





    Sinn Ezm 1 3H




    Hans

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    All mine have been in titanium:
    Revue Thommen Airspeed Quartz with the marvellous ETA 251.262 movement with black dial - the blue hue is the ARC...


    ...then in blue



    then another couple in black, again


    plus a Lemania 5100 auto version



    and finally (all the RTs have now gone) The Daddy - the Fortis LE Cosmonaut 644.27.11


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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    There are a few in here (I count 9) with 4 other chronos.



    And I just got this one - see here http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=229291



    I'll try and do a group shot sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9:59
    I have an short post to offer
    But there are some real gems in there! Very nice collection!

    If I may, I'll make a few additional comments though:
    • The Dugena was made by Lemania itself and uses the same case design as the Heuer Audi Sport (also made directly by Lemania). Unlike the latter or the Lemania branded version (including one with PVD finish like this one, its tachy scale is printed on the crystal. On the others, it is an internal chapter ring. It is to be noted that Sinn also ordered a few of these watches to Lemania, but they were two-tone versions (with the printed tachy scale).[/*:m:qhx7bxr1]
    • The Nivada looks like a Franken to me. It seems like the whole original movement-dial-hands assembly has been dropped in a NOS Orfina case (many of those were available on eBay a few years ago). Interesting effect though...[/*:m:qhx7bxr1]
    • I wouldn't call the Lemania "FIFA", as it was not made (and co-branded) for this organization. It is the same watch as the Omega FIFA, that's a fact, but I would preferable call the Lemania version "Football" or "Referee" to avoid confusion. And if you have the opportunity, I'd be interested in knowing what the case references are on yours. It should at the very least have the Omega reference (11003) engraved inside the caseback, and it may have the Heuer one engraved outside it.[/*:m:qhx7bxr1]
    • The Tutima and the Sinn are drop-dead gorgeous![/*:m:qhx7bxr1]

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    That one I particularly like - classic Flieger look with usable L5100 and neutral bezel (neither CDT nor dive timer). Are they very rare?


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    Extremely rare, unfortunately. :|

    I was very lucky to find one at a good price, and it's a watch I have great pleasure wearing it, either on its original bracelet or on a strap...




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    I have this Tutima NATO, which I had cerakoted because I liked the look of the old PVD Heuers.


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    Cool mod, Jeff. It reminds me of the Tutima GIPN prototype...


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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    Well, that's going to be a long post then... :wink:
    Thanks Pascal - worth it, you have some great watches there, I think this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    is my favourite.

    Hans - I love the dials on these two:

    Quote Originally Posted by 9:59



    Dave - saw that post, a rare bird indeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by sweets
    And I just got this one - see here http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=229291

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    Cool mod, Jeff. It reminds me of the Tutima GIPN prototype...

    Wow! Very much like that one, Pascal - I have not seen one of those before, but I apparently inadvertently created an homage. :D

    Here's another shot...


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    This has turned into an epic thread, full of watches I know little about but want to see more of... 8) 8) 8)

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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Let's not stop then! :wink:

    I can post a few pictures of watches I once owned and sold before the group pictures in my previous post was taken...


    - Eberhard Champion




    - Eberhard Grande Croisière




    - Lorenz automatic chronograph




    - My 2 Tissot Navigator, one of which I still bitterly regret selling...






    - Pryngeps Gran Sport




    - Mondia automatic chronograph




    - Paul Picot Telemark (which incidentally is the smallest Lemania 5100 chrono ever made)


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets
    That's just great - love those one sub-dialled Lemanias. Hit me uo when it's for sale! Lovely watch.

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    No longer with me sadly, the daddy of dive chrono's 8)


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    Currently have this



    but I had this too

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol
    That's just great - love those one sub-dialled Lemanias. Hit me uo when it's for sale! Lovely watch.
    You'll be waiting a while. Sorry. I've been wanting a bezelled Commando for years now, and have only just found it (let alone got it).

    In the mean time, I feel that my single group shot is not deserving of the thread, so thought I would add some more shots, but other than the Tutima above, and this Blue Dialled Lemania 5100 in the style of a Sinn 142



    I don't have anything else that hasn't already been posted.

    EZM1, Fortis Ti Lemania LE, Omega 176.0012, Lorenz chrono-sub, PD Orfina. All been posted already. All my other ones have gone.
    :cry:

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    You've kept some serious classics though. That "Sinn 142-like" Lemania is drop-dead gorgeous!

    Forced by events, I'm following a similar path with my collection. I abhor selling my watches, but I find out that there are actually few of them that I really miss. But some of the remaining ones would have to be pried from my cold dead fingers! :mrgreen:


    I'm now going to post a couple of pictures of a watch I (unfortunately) don't own but that I find extremely interesting because as far as I know it is the only Lemania 5100 chrono in a truly square case:

    the Alain Silberstein Jumbo Krono


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    I forgot I had this one for a short while. Lemania 1341 (I think )

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandersnatch
    Lemania 1341 (I think )
    That's correct. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets
    You'll be waiting a while. Sorry.
    Ah, just seen your other post about these - not surprised that you're keeping your hands on it/them!

    Only one central chrono minute hand for me, and only this picture, taken just now with my iPhone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol
    Quote Originally Posted by sweets
    You'll be waiting a while. Sorry.
    Ah, just seen your other post about these - not surprised that you're keeping your hands on it/them!

    Only one central chrono minute hand for me, and only this picture, taken just now with my iPhone.

    Nice one - see my post on "the best chronograph movement in the world"
    http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic...&sd=a&start=15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    Quote Originally Posted by brandersnatch
    Lemania 1341 (I think )
    That's correct. :)
    Thanks Pascal. I'm so rubbish! :mrgreen:

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    Does No-one have a Breitling Skyracer, or anything else powered by the Breitling 27 movement?

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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Here are my two - there is a third, a Sinn 140/42 with a 5100, but that is on its way to Frankfurt for some TLC... I know there's also a 7500 in the first pic. Sorry...


    Two brothers and a cousin by RobK76, on Flickr


    Omega Speedmaster Mk IV by RobK76, on Flickr


    Heuer 510.503 by RobK76, on Flickr

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    I only have one chrono at the moment, but it's quite a nice one!


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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Lovely watch indeed, but completely out of place in this thread as it doesn't have a chrono central minute hand! :|

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    Absolutely the greatest thread on TZ-UK in a long time (IMHO), even though I don't actually like chronographs all that much. I do have this little guy though.

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    For someone who "doesn't like chronographs all that much", you certainly know when to make an exception! :D

    The Sinn EZM1 is a genuine masterpiece. :love4:

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    Re: Chrono central minute hands - show me yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    Lovely watch indeed, but completely out of place in this thread as it doesn't have a chrono central minute hand! :|
    Sorry - quite right. How about...


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    My only offering. The EZM1 has now gone to the OP and am enjoying my 142.



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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    How about...

    That's more like it! :wink:

    I take it that it's no longer with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal S
    Lovely watch indeed, but completely out of place in this thread as it doesn't have a chrono central minute hand! :|
    Sorry - quite right. How about...

    Yes, yes and oh my gosh, yes!

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    By the way, mine says hi! :wink:


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    Here are my 5100 powered watches. Top row L-R: Sinn 157, Sinn EZM1, Sinn 142, Fortis OCC and bottom row L-R: Speedy Mk 4.5, Revue Thommen Airspeed and DPW Diavoli Rossi.


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