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    I've just changed from a using a CE5 clearomizer to a new Aspire BDC clearomizer and have noticed that I dont get the same flavour i did with the older style?? Has anyone else experienced this?

    I seem to be going through more juice with the BDC too. I'm assuming it's running hotter than the old CE5. I'm thinking about switching back. Any ideas?

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    I must admit I've gone back to pukka cigars.

    At some point I must put my little used TW Odyssey on the SC.

    Sorry chaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    I've just changed from a using a CE5 clearomizer to a new Aspire BDC clearomizer and have noticed that I dont get the same flavour i did with the older style?? Has anyone else experienced this?

    I seem to be going through more juice with the BDC too. I'm assuming it's running hotter than the old CE5. I'm thinking about switching back. Any ideas?
    what MOd/battery are you using? if its VV/VW you might find the watts a little high for your aspire, and will need adjusting, I have noticed this with many different clearomizers.

    if you don't have VV/VW you will come across this happening with every change, as they are all slightly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
    what MOd/battery are you using? if its VV/VW you might find the watts a little high for your aspire, and will need adjusting, I have noticed this with many different clearomizers.

    if you don't have VV/VW you will come across this happening with every change, as they are all slightly different.
    Ahh right cheers.

    I've just been using it on my egoT battery. I do feel a much stronger draw but it definaly looses most of the flavour. Can you reccoment a decent VV battery?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    Ahh right cheers.

    I've just been using it on my egoT battery. I do feel a much stronger draw but it definaly looses most of the flavour. Can you reccoment a decent VV battery?

    Thanks.
    Don't necessarily need a new device. You can also alter the power by changing the resistance of your coils. I assume you're buying coils for it and not making your own? If so, can you get a different resistance (ohms) to what you're using now? Increase ohms=lower power=longer battery life, decrease ohms=higher power=shorter battery life. Try a few different coils and see which you prefer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighty View Post
    Don't necessarily need a new device. You can also alter the power by changing the resistance of your coils. I assume you're buying coils for it and not making your own? If so, can you get a different resistance (ohms) to what you're using now? Increase ohms=lower power=longer battery life, decrease ohms=higher power=shorter battery life. Try a few different coils and see which you prefer

    Brighty
    I see, that makes sense. I'm currently just using the small replaceable coils that came with the BDC kit which are 1.8Ω. I'll see if I they supply them any higher.

    Cheers.

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    Bottom coil devices are notoriously thirsty, and you have 2 coils in there!

    as advised above, changing the variable wattage or voltage should lead to the flavour you want!

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    Can you reccoment a decent VV/VW device?

    I've found some 2.1 coils so might give those a try first.

    Cheers.

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    FWIW

    I use a itaste 134, its not cheap, but seems well made, ime PVs get dropped and knocked a lot, so I wanted a robust one! Its chuffing massive though, Eddie posted a picture of one a couple of pages back!

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    the naturevape pro midi is the tank I'd also heartily recommend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzman808 View Post
    FWIW

    I use a itaste 134, its not cheap, but seems well made, ime PVs get dropped and knocked a lot, so I wanted a robust one! Its chuffing massive though, Eddie posted a picture of one a couple of pages back!
    Woot. Looks like a cross between a flux capacitor and a photon cannon.

    I treid a Innokin iTaste a few weeks back that looked canny for the money. £50 I think.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Those e-cigs are absolutely minging.

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    Right, so I bought myself a Innokin MVP at the weekend and so far its great. Can anyone tell me the difference would be between the VV and VW as changing the voltage just seems to have the same effect as changing the watts.

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    VV & VW essentially do the same thing, as you increase the V or W button, the device will up the voltage. Watts=Volts²/Ohms, so upping the volts = upping the voltage.
    The benefit of VW over VV is that with VW, if you put a different atomiser or coil on top, that has a slightly different resistance, VW will alter the volts to suit, keeping the output power the same, whereas with VV, the volts would stay the same, giving a different power output and you'd have to tweak the volts to get the same output every time you changed coil/atomiser.
    Basically VV is the old outdated way, VW is newer & better, so stick with that, although they both do the same thing.

    Brighty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighty View Post
    VV & VW essentially do the same thing, as you increase the V or W button, the device will up the voltage. Watts=Volts²/Ohms, so upping the volts = upping the voltage.
    The benefit of VW over VV is that with VW, if you put a different atomiser or coil on top, that has a slightly different resistance, VW will alter the volts to suit, keeping the output power the same, whereas with VV, the volts would stay the same, giving a different power output and you'd have to tweak the volts to get the same output every time you changed coil/atomiser.
    Basically VV is the old outdated way, VW is newer & better, so stick with that, although they both do the same thing.

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    Great, cheers.

    I wasn't sure if I was expecting any difference in taste etc between the two. I'll stick to VW.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    I've just changed from a using a CE5 clearomizer to a new Aspire BDC clearomizer and have noticed that I dont get the same flavour i did with the older style?? Has anyone else experienced this?

    I seem to be going through more juice with the BDC too. I'm assuming it's running hotter than the old CE5. I'm thinking about switching back. Any ideas?
    Try the new BVC coils with the CE5, or better yet, dump the CE5 and head to a Nautilus (or Nautilus mini - it uses the same coils as the Nautilus) with BVC.

    Oh, there is usually a silicon restrictor in the CE5 drip tip to limit airflow. Try it with that removed. You can always pop it back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusIrae View Post
    Try the new BVC coils with the CE5, or better yet, dump the CE5 and head to a Nautilus (or Nautilus mini - it uses the same coils as the Nautilus) with BVC.

    Oh, there is usually a silicon restrictor in the CE5 drip tip to limit airflow. Try it with that removed. You can always pop it back in.
    Cheers, I'll give the BVC coils a try. I'm finding I don't get much flavour through the BDC?? Loads of vape but not much taste. Not sure if it's just me but the old chuck away CE4s seemed to give a better taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    Cheers, I'll give the BVC coils a try. I'm finding I don't get much flavour through the BDC?? Loads of vape but not much taste. Not sure if it's just me but the old chuck away CE4s seemed to give a better taste.
    I've got a Nautilus Aspire and moved to the new BVC coils recently, much better than the BDC coils, however I still rarely get much taste; great hit and vape production though (I'm using a Vamo v5 mod) Try some of the 1.6ohm coils as they are more airy.

    My wife has a cheap £12 ego with mini nova tank and the flavour is fantastic, but hit and vapour are not enough for me. Juice lasts her ages though, I can get through 30ml in a week.

    It might be worth searching out some of the more specialised juice providers online; I'm of the opinion that a lot of e-juice is tailored to suit the cheapy devices and doesn't work as well with better kit. I rarely get much taste from either my aspire or Kanger protank 3, yet my Wife says they taste great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoknevo View Post
    I've got a Nautilus Aspire and moved to the new BVC coils recently, much better than the BDC coils, however I still rarely get much taste; great hit and vape production though (I'm using a Vamo v5 mod) Try some of the 1.6ohm coils as they are more airy.

    My wife has a cheap £12 ego with mini nova tank and the flavour is fantastic, but hit and vapour are not enough for me. Juice lasts her ages though, I can get through 30ml in a week.

    It might be worth searching out some of the more specialised juice providers online; I'm of the opinion that a lot of e-juice is tailored to suit the cheapy devices and doesn't work as well with better kit. I rarely get much taste from either my aspire or Kanger protank 3, yet my Wife says they taste great.
    Yeah to be honest my ten quid ego-t with CE4 has a better taste. My local shop has a wide range of liquids, I'll pop in tomorrow and see what they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petewon View Post
    Yeah to be honest my ten quid ego-t with CE4 has a better taste. My local shop has a wide range of liquids, I'll pop in tomorrow and see what they have.
    I just tried my 5ml Aspire on the Mrs ego-t and was pleasantly surprised at how well it worked (it looked bloody stupid right enough with a massive tank on it!) TBH, I've tried loads of different juices, from very cheap to fairly expensive, through my Aspire and Protank and don't get anywhere near the taste of her wee mini nova. I've just put her tank on my Vamo and tried to run it at 7.5w (I usually run at 10w give or take) and no real taste; tried it at 3.5w and tasty but much reduced hit/vape production.

    That seems to be the story with my setup; hit/vape Vs flavour, can have one or the other.

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    I suggest buying a YiHi SX-350 based mod. Simply because it does the entire range of usable wattages and voltage accurately. It does proper voltage step down and up. So, you can set a wattage and it will the same for the entire life of the battery and with whatever atomiser you stick on it. Plus, no pulse width modulation. Straight DC. That chip would give you a long term baseline to be able to choose liquids with better reliability and comparability. Commonly available (or buildable) coil resistance becomes irrelevant with such a chip onboard. A DNA 30 is to be avoided unless you want to run big watts as there is no step down below 4V.

    A DNA 40 is a reasonable choice but you would be paying a premium for a fresh to market chip with no history and no feature set to make it stand out for the common user. The temperature feature on the DNA 40 is a gimmick for low (i.e. normal) wattages and for (the vast majority of) people not interested in making their own coils on RDAs.
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    A quick heads up for my fellow vapers........

    I bought one of these recently -

    http://www.ukecigstore.com/nautilus-...by-aspire.html

    but prefer my AeroTank Mega as it has an aluminium tank (my Provari flies around the car and the pyrex tank will probably break), would anyone be interested in buying it?

    I could do it for £15 delivered and that would include 4 brand new coils?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilford View Post
    I could do it for £15 delivered and that would include 4 brand new coils?
    I'd take that but are the four extra coils 1.8Ω BVC?

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    I've just got a new Protank which gives me a "burnt wick" taste even at the lowest voltage setting :-(

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've just got a new Protank which gives me a "burnt wick" taste even at the lowest voltage setting :-(

    Eddie
    volts will adjust to supply the watts, reduce the wattage Eddie, hence why most mods don't even give you variable volts anymore, my new VAMO V6 only has variable Watts, the volts adjust on the fly to send enough power to produce the wattage, this also compensates for voltage drop across a tired battery that needs a charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've just got a new Protank which gives me a "burnt wick" taste even at the lowest voltage setting :-(

    Eddie
    I've had this a few times, usually a DOA coil, have you tried swapping for a different one?

    I run 1.6ohm coils @ 3.9v with great results on the Provari.

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    You could try re wicking it with jap wool, As protank is usually a silica wick don't think you have burnt it, But re wicking with wool seems to be better anyway, Though wool will burn easy so prime it with juice before firing,

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    A new coil sorted it.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    My Provari Mini V2.5 is now for sale as I've got a new Mod, please PM me if you are interested :-)

    deal includes -

    Provari V2.5 Mini in black
    2 x 18350 IMR batteries
    Beauty Ring
    Nautilus Tank
    4 new 1.6 coils for the Nautilus (plus 1 in the tank)
    1 x battery charger

    Cheers!

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    Anybody after any liquid?

    I've ordered this the other day -

    http://www.redvape.com/mint-collection

    too high nicotine for me at 12mg!

    PM me if interested.

    Ta

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    I am on the vamo v5 and after playing with vapping for 4 months, I now have not smoked for 6 weeks. Best part is not even felt the need to smoke.

    Now she moaning, when will i stop vapping:(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    I am on the vamo v5 and after playing with vapping for 4 months, I now have not smoked for 6 weeks. Best part is not even felt the need to smoke.

    Now she moaning, when will i stop vapping:(
    When confronted with that question, I find that saying "I didn't think you wanted me to start smoking cigarettes again" usually gets the point across of course YMMV...

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    I took delivery of one of the first Provari P3's last week, all I can way is WOW!

    A bit pricey but what a mod!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've ordered this one from Fasttech in Singapore - http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/1...mechanical-mod

    Trackable mailing is included in the price and the PayPal conversion came out at £16.32, which keeps it below the £18 limit for customs.

    Don't explore the website, it will cost you money, especially the LED torches (I ordered 4 x 450 lumen Cree zoom torches for £15.92 as well).

    The only negative is the time from order to delivery, I'm still waiting after 3 weeks although tracking shows that it's now in the UK.

    Eddie
    Fasttech are good, you can really save some money. I've used them for a couple of years for Torches, torch parts, and other bits. I thought they were based in Hong Kong Eddie?
    The only this to watch out for is if you have cause to use the customer service, can be a bit hit or miss. You can end up going round in circles with them, try to be direct and explain in plain English what you want.

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    This is a friend of someone I work with:


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-inside.html


    Just be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    I am on the vamo v5 and after playing with vapping for 4 months, I now have not smoked for 6 weeks. Best part is not even felt the need to smoke.

    Now she moaning, when will i stop vapping:(
    Tell her you'll stop vaping when she goes and get's you 20 B&h .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    This is a friend of someone I work with:


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-inside.html


    Just be careful.
    Is this the equivelent of falling asleep in the house and burning the house down because you left the chip pan on ?

    why is it the likes of the mail report only the bad side of things on stuff like this , they fail to mention the millions of people who lives have changed for the better because of vaping .

    The way to avoid these things happening is to buy decent batteries and chargers there are many reliable devices out there that have excellent safety features such as innokin and like any other electronic device switch off or pull the thing out when not in use, accidents will happen but this is one in how many,..... 5m .

    Happy vaping.
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    I fully agree be VERY carefull, However it does seem there is some sort of campaign against Ecigs by some, The problem lies with lithium batteries and cheap chargers, It mentions 100 fires caused by Ecigs but there is NEVER any mention of the thousands caused by laptops,phones, And other devices, I would HIGHLY recomend -- Do not leave any charging item unattended, Use a lipo charging bag ( very cheap) do not charge on a flammable surface, Use a GOOD charger, In the case of Ecigs only mess with wattages and power if you know what you are doing !! IE don't try modifying them, And make sure the battery compartment is vented, Many people now demand cheap products, 99p chargers are a result! You get what you pay for, Lipo bag £3.99 last time I bought one! Bit less than £23.000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishman307 View Post
    I fully agree be VERY carefull, However it does seem there is some sort of campaign against Ecigs by some, The problem lies with lithium batteries and cheap chargers, It mentions 100 fires caused by Ecigs but there is NEVER any mention of the thousands caused by laptops,phones, And other devices, I would HIGHLY recomend -- Do not leave any charging item unattended, Use a lipo charging bag ( very cheap) do not charge on a flammable surface, Use a GOOD charger, In the case of Ecigs only mess with wattages and power if you know what you are doing !! IE don't try modifying them, And make sure the battery compartment is vented, Many people now demand cheap products, 99p chargers are a result! You get what you pay for, Lipo bag £3.99 last time I bought one! Bit less than £23.000.
    Yep primarily this is down to poor regulation on cheap chargers. Its the same issue with any Lithium Ion battery not just e-cigs. Might as well warn about Perrier because people have drowned in water in the past.

    Never leave anything charging unattended.

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    Another good bit of advice is never stack the batteries in the charger 18350's and the like charge them singular.

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    I've been using my TECC MVP II with an iclear 30 clearomizer fitted with a 2.1 ohm dual coil jobbie. I tend to run it at 3.8V to reduce the possibility of a "dry hit". I use it quite a lot and use e-liquids with a low nicotine content, usually 6mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
    I didn't realise we had a bunch of vapers on here, I myself quit smoking 5 years back, but was having the odd one with a drink, I was waking up feeling poisoned with the toxins, so started vaping,

    I have been vaping for around 12 months now, using the MVP iTaste V2, with an iClear 30s fitted with 2.1 ohm dual coils, and love it.

    I have tried a tonn of juices, but have settled with the VIP british gold (benson and hedges) 16mg and the VIP pineapple 16mg, here is a pick of mine (box mod)

    I have the same setup but I vape " Bensins" 6mg from my local TW reseller. It's mixed on site and 30mls lasts me about a week. I Have a TW Tornado V3 permanently in my shirt pocket when I'm at work and the MVPII sits on my desk.
    I tried all sorts of flavours and settled on the one above, which doesn't taste anything like B&H fags but it's really pleasant in my opinion.

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    Vapescape are clearing out their stock of Dekang liquids at £3 + VAT for a 30ml bottle. Not all flavours and strengths but if they've got what you like, it's a bargain price.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Hi Eddie,

    Two things:

    First, you have clearly got into vaping in a big way! I hope it has made as big a difference to your life as it has mine.

    Second, how much better do you feel for having done so? Are you totally off the cigs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    Hi Eddie,

    Two things:

    First, you have clearly got into vaping in a big way! I hope it has made as big a difference to your life as it has mine.

    Second, how much better do you feel for having done so? Are you totally off the cigs?
    I haven't touched tobacco since 20 February 2013 and yes, I feel better for it. My breathing has improved significantly and I might be imagining it but I think I sleep better. I'm under no illusions that I've just swapped one habit for another though.

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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I haven't touched tobacco since 20 February 2013 and yes, I feel better for it. My breathing has improved significantly and I might be imagining it but I think I sleep better. I'm under no illusions that I've just swapped one habit for another though.

    Eddie
    A far better habit to swap for though! I work in Addictions and view it as a similar situation to prescribing methadone to heroin addicts, it's all about harm reduction. Plus you aren't ingesting the 600 or so various chemicals that the tobacco company adds to their cigarettes.

    I've been off them since March this year by way of vaping; like you Eddie, I've got COPD and was on three inhalers a day. I use my preventer at half of what I used too, and the reliever far less than previously. Rarely use the COPD inhaler.

    Wish these things had been around years ago.

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    Well, I've just taken delivery of the superb new Aspire Atlantis, I've been waiting for stock to arrive and it finally arrived this morning.

    Sadly, I didn't read the spec properly and it won't work with my Provari P3, so I will either have to send it back or if someone on here wants it you can have it for £30 delivered?

    You need a battery that will fire @ 0.5ohm for it to work.

    Cheers

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    Been vaping for a year now :)

    Ivp2 50watt box mod with a taifunGT @1.2ohms and some manabush powwow sauce

    Got a couple of other dna 30's plus kayfuns and a few drippers......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    If you wan to give up then try Alan Carr book.

    I smoked around 30 a day for the last 20 years and have tried to give up at least once a year every year with no sucess.

    I tried the e-cig and have to say it is brillant, but as soon as it ran out of charge, rather than wait I went straight for a fag.

    I finished the book last week and have now not smoked for 7 days and not missing t at all.

    Just my 2 pence

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    a huge +1 on the above. I was smoking 20 Malb Reds every weekday and probably 40 a day at weekends. Same for my partner. We both read Alans' book and stopped on the same day - November 1st 2003. Neither of us have touched a fag since. The freedom from nicotine addiction is incredibly liberating. I can't recommend it enough.

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    I was not a heavy smoker 3 cigars a day most of all in the Pub with a pint. The day they banned smoking in the pub, I went cold turkey and have not had one since. Got to admit vaping is a lot better then the stink of cigarette smoke.

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