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    PRS-25 - Nato?

    So, what do we think this will look like on a Nato? I think a sand coloured one would likely look great, and with drilled lugs so easy to swap over from what looks to be a lovely bracelet.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

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    I think we are going to be seeing quite a few on Natos.

    My prognosis tho says, not too many on leather.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    Eddie, is the bracelet the same as per the PRS-3 LE?

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    Duly noted. :wink:

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    I noticed that. And 'lug to lug' 49.8mm to the Military's 50.9mm.

    Some strange numbers going on there.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    So the obvious next question. Where to get a lovely quality 22mm sand Nato?

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    As an alternative, this might just work -

    http://www.atgvintagewatches.com/access ... ert-Strap-

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    Eddie, is the bracelet the same as per the PRS-3 LE?
    It's quite different: firstly it tapers to 20mm at the clasp (the PRS-3 bracelet is 22/22) and there are half links on the Explorer bracelet next to the clasp for better adjustment.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    I noticed that. And 'lug to lug' 49.8mm to the Military's 50.9mm.

    Some strange numbers going on there.

    john
    It's all to do with proportion :wink: .

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    Eddie, is the bracelet the same as per the PRS-3 LE?
    Looks different to me. Clasp, links and end links all different, and the PRS-3 doesn't taper.
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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Remember it's got 22mm lugs.

    Eddie
    Eddie, is the bracelet the same as per the PRS-3 LE?
    It's quite different: firstly it tapers to 20mm at the clasp (the PRS-3 bracelet is 22/22) and there are half links on the Explorer bracelet next to the clasp for better adjustment.

    Eddie
    Ah, thanks :)

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    I realised that it is a stupid time to ask, after i've ordered one, but I take it there is plenty of room for a thicker NATO behind the bars Eddie? I'm also wondering if all of the 22mm ones you stock fit with the keeper in place?

    I'm only asking because I just checked the Gnomon one I had lined up for this and it looks like a 50mm gap means that i'm going to have to geld the poor thing That said shaving 1mm off under 14.5mm is probably a blessing :wink: .

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    i think something classic like a black braided nato would suit it best.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    .......

    It's all to do with proportion :wink: .

    Eddie
    The best proportion is that it's nearly half the price of the 29b AND with a bracelet.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Hi all

    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)

    I am certain that it will look great on a NAT0 :-)

    Cheers

    Ewan

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Since we're talking about dimensions, wasn't this one supposed to be 38mm with 20mm lugs? I wonder what made Eddie change his mind :scratch:

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman
    So the obvious next question. Where to get a lovely quality 22mm sand Nato?
    Gnomon watches sell them - I have a couple from them and they're decent quality.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
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    I think we are going to be seeing quite a few on Natos.

    My prognosis tho says, not too many on leather.

    john
    I am sure you are right on both fronts, however I think a variety of leather straps can complement this style of watch very nicely indeed and I hope we will see a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewan.w
    Hi all

    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)

    I am certain that it will look great on a NAT0 :-)

    Cheers

    Ewan
    Any idea when you'll be putting it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twhp101
    Quote Originally Posted by ewan.w
    Hi all

    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)

    I am certain that it will look great on a NAT0 :-)

    Cheers

    Ewan
    Any idea when you'll be putting it up?
    Probably be a couple of days at least but hopefully worth waiting for :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewan.w
    Hi all

    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)

    I am certain that it will look great on a NAT0 :-)

    Cheers

    Ewan
    Looking forward to reading it, Ewan

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    [quote=ewan.w]
    Quote Originally Posted by twhp101
    Quote Originally Posted by "ewan.w":5q93ktzh
    Hi all

    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)

    I am certain that it will look great on a NAT0 :-)

    Cheers

    Ewan
    Any idea when you'll be putting it up?
    Probably be a couple of days at least but hopefully worth waiting for :-)[/quote:5q93ktzh]

    Excellent news :) Looking forward to reading it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Picasso
    ......

    Looking forward to reading it, Ewan
    +1 The last Smiths you did was extremely good read.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by ewan.w
    I am currently working on a review of this excellent watch ;-)
    good to hear.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    Since we're talking about dimensions, wasn't this one supposed to be 38mm with 20mm lugs? I wonder what made Eddie change his mind :scratch:
    It was never going to have 20mm lugs, the 35mm 1016 has 20mm lugs so a scaled-up version would need a wider lug spacing. The original plan was 39mm but the order was confirmed at 40mm and I didn't spot it. What's 1mm between friends? :wink:

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp
    Eddie, is the bracelet the same as per the PRS-3 LE?
    It's quite different: firstly it tapers to 20mm at the clasp (the PRS-3 bracelet is 22/22) and there are half links on the Explorer bracelet next to the clasp for better adjustment.

    Eddie
    That's very good news; I must be an "inbetweener", I always seem to need a half link out to get a comfortable fit. That's my only issue with the PRS-3 bracelet.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    .
    I think we are going to be seeing quite a few on Natos.

    My prognosis tho says, not too many on leather.

    john
    and what's about Canvas strap like Eddie sells in his shop ?



    it's a perfect mix between Nato and leather strap : the form of a leather strap with a nato material

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath
    i think something classic like a black braided nato would suit it best.
    This is what I was thinking. I've got my PRS-22 on a 20mm braided nato. If the quality was better it would be the perfect strap for me. Just need to find a source for 22mm ones now, preferably with a higher quality than my 20mm one.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath
    i think something classic like a black braided nato would suit it best.
    This is what I was thinking. I've got my PRS-22 on a 20mm braided nato. If the quality was better it would be the perfect strap for me. Just need to find a source for 22mm ones now, preferably with a higher quality than my 20mm one.
    is anyone up there listening
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Looking forward to your review, Ewan. They're always worth a read (and are responsible for drawing me in to here originally as well).
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    I guess it's inevitable that many are destined for the ghastly Nato, which is a shame considering how good the bracelet looks.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    I don't get the fascination with fugly NATOs either. Mine will stay on the bracelet and may go on to a dark brown Toshi leather strap from time to time. The PRS-25 should wear like a IWC 3717 on the wrist, with very similar lug to lug dimensions and a slightly smaller face. If you don't like that, well... more watches for the rest of us! :lol:

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    Since we're talking about dimensions, wasn't this one supposed to be 38mm with 20mm lugs? I wonder what made Eddie change his mind :scratch:
    It was never going to have 20mm lugs, the 35mm 1016 has 20mm lugs so a scaled-up version would need a wider lug spacing. The original plan was 39mm but the order was confirmed at 40mm and I didn't spot it. What's 1mm between friends? :wink:

    Eddie
    I'm puzzled now, because the drawings show 41mm.

    Should be able to measure it myself before long. :)

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by SternG
    Since we're talking about dimensions, wasn't this one supposed to be 38mm with 20mm lugs? I wonder what made Eddie change his mind :scratch:
    It was never going to have 20mm lugs, the 35mm 1016 has 20mm lugs so a scaled-up version would need a wider lug spacing. The original plan was 39mm but the order was confirmed at 40mm and I didn't spot it. What's 1mm between friends? :wink:

    Eddie
    I'm puzzled now, because the drawings show 41mm.

    Should be able to measure it myself before long. :)
    Perhaps it's ovoid? :wink: I used my Moore & Wright digital calipers to measure it and it was a smidgeon over 40mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Perhaps it's ovoid? :wink: I used my Moore & Wright digital calipers to measure it and it was a smidgeon over 40mm.
    Yup, that's what I get too.

    Now then, back to fondling it... :)

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Here it is on a GGB.



    Leather and NATO in due course...

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    oooh thats looking pretty hot :P 8) 8)
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    These just in sports fans...



    And as a Perlon was asked for!


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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    thats the tetas de monjas on the braided nato :drunken:
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    that is nice

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Ian, great pics. Thanks for taking the time.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    All part of the service!

    Last one for a while, on leather (Di-Modell Jumbo).


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    Thats the money shot for me, no bracelet needed, all the strap shots look better, hands
    also look perfect

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    The Jumbo combination looks great. I'll be leaving mine on the bracelet for a good while, but that is tempting.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    The Jumbo combination looks great. I'll be leaving mine on the bracelet for a good while, but that is tempting.
    Yes, I agree. Never had one of those straps, actually, but I shall investigate ;)

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by bestak
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
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    I think we are going to be seeing quite a few on Natos.

    My prognosis tho says, not too many on leather.

    john
    and what's about Canvas strap like Eddie sells in his shop ?



    it's a perfect mix between Nato and leather strap : the form of a leather strap with a nato material
    Just ordered black and olive drab versions.

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly
    Quote Originally Posted by tribe125
    The Jumbo combination looks great. I'll be leaving mine on the bracelet for a good while, but that is tempting.
    Yes, I agree. Never had one of those straps, actually, but I shall investigate ;)
    I wonder - a mesh? Or is a 22mm non-tapering mesh a bit wide for the rest of the watch?
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by IANAN
    All part of the service!
    Last one for a while, on leather (Di-Modell Jumbo).
    That's a great shot.

    When I saw your photos of the PRS-25 on the NATOs I wasn't persuaded to move it off the excellent bracelet, but the above has prompted me to have a trial run when I get home. Due to it's thickness (5mm IIRC) the Jumbo didn't seem right with the PRS-14 but the Everest may work better with it and the tan leather does enhance the "vintage" feel.

    Cheers

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    Re: PRS-25 - Nato?

    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw
    When I saw your photos of the PRS-25 on the NATOs I wasn't persuaded to move it off the excellent bracelet, but the above has prompted me to have a trial run when I get home. Due to it's thickness (5mm IIRC) the Jumbo didn't seem right with the PRS-14 but the Everest may work better with it and the tan leather does enhance the "vintage" feel.

    Cheers

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    Thanks David!

    I had similar experiences with the 14 and on the 50s the Jumbo seemed insubstantial. The case height and rounded lines on the 25 just seem to work with the strap and it's been the combination I have stayed with (although a simple black NATO also looks quite classic).

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