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    Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    :D The only reason why I would ever buy one, so nice when you see it for real, completely smooth and silent. 8)

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Even though I own two spring drives I still liked watching the video. Thanks for posting.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    I think that if ever I get around to buying a GS Spring Drive Diver I will waste a lot of time just looking it.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    8) 8) i love that watch, is the bezel ceramic ? i,m guessing not .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmerjammer
    is the bezel ceramic ? i,m guessing not .

    Ahhhh, you missed this:

    http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=82219

    The material the bezel is made of is...... we donŽt know... 8)

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Simply beautiful, thanks for posting the link

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    Well, just to add that the video above is from my watch :D . It was worth to buy a camera with video just for this 8) .

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

    :albino:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQ1wv9kVE8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Svc03jrZJY

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmerjammer
    is the bezel ceramic ? i,m guessing not .

    Ahhhh, you missed this:

    http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=82219

    The material the bezel is made of is...... we donŽt know... 8)
    :shock: Best macro photos of a watch I've ever seen

    Video is very nice. It does capture it well - in real life it's so smooth it is kind of eerie. It's just such a great watch, mine is still a keeper.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Does it make any sound? No ticking? Is it electronically driven?

    I read about those, and saw some videos but there are unanswered questions :)

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    What's the big deal about a smooth seconds hand? Wall clocks have been doing this for years, and I don't recall people oohing and aahing over those.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

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    Does it "step", or does it really have constant angular speed?

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    Super smooth and quite a sight to behold. Thanks for posting it

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Cool...similar to this 45 year-old Accutron:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCuV8NT7O0

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmerjammer
    is the bezel ceramic ? i,m guessing not .

    Ahhhh, you missed this:

    http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=82219

    The material the bezel is made of is...... we donŽt know... 8)
    :shock: That has done me no good ..i want this watch even more now :twisted: :D 8)

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by youveboughtwhat
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

    :albino:
    Does it "step", or does it really have constant angular speed?
    IŽd say it steps, but it might be the video too. If I had the brains, IŽd figure this out :)

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    :albino:

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    My first speed poster has been spotted :albino:

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Simply lovely Josë 8)

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    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Is the GS spring drive diver the grail of all Seiko holics?

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    I am a Seikoholic (what ever that means) or rather a big fan of Seiko, but a Spring Drive watch is not something, I crave.

    "Spring Drive - the answer to a question nobody asked!"

    (I say that just to "wind" up John and Jose ... :wink: :mrgreen: )

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    I am a Seikoholic (what ever that means) or rather a big fan of Seiko, but a Spring Drive watch is not something, I crave.

    "Spring Drive - the answer to a question nobody asked!"

    (I say that just to "wind" up John and Jose ... :wink: :mrgreen: )
    Maybe, but it still looks bloody amazing. Just because it serves no practical purpose doesn't mean it's not wanted. Granted it might not be required but neither are alot of things of beauty.

    It's just nice to have it.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono
    Cool...similar to this 45 year-old Accutron:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCuV8NT7O0
    Just to state for the record here, the spring drive makes no sound at all (the quiet revolution and all that :P ). I was an accutron lover long before I was a spring drive lover. People never used to get as excited about the accutrons and they nowdays do about the spring drives. I think one of the reasons is the sound. Once you hear an accutron ... then the movement of the secs hand gets associated with the sound.

    Somehow I feel the silent glide of the spring drive is more mesmerizing than the industrial sound of the 'trons.

    The accutron sound
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkNxkhODX6I

    Bulova Spaceview - The Legacy (re-issue)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voJDqdRBEfM

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by walesi
    Quote Originally Posted by youveboughtwhat
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

    :albino:
    Does it "step", or does it really have constant angular speed?
    IŽd say it steps, but it might be the video too. If I had the brains, IŽd figure this out :)
    It doesn't step, it is run by a flywheel rotating in a single direction which is regulated by self-powered electromagnets. Perfectly smooth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_KkmwapoG0

    But the point is that it is an automatic mechanical watch that has done away with the timekeeping achilles heel of the mechanical watch that is the traditional escapement, so its accuracy is greatly improved. The smooth sweep is a beautiful thing but it is not the main point of the movement design.

    Or you could say that it is a quartz watch that has its energy stored in a spring rather than a battery or capacitor, but to simply label it a quartz movement really doesn't reflect the unusual and unique nature of its engineering. Its design really is ingenious.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    I am a Seikoholic (what ever that means) or rather a big fan of Seiko, but a Spring Drive watch is not something, I crave.

    "Spring Drive - the answer to a question nobody asked!"

    (I say that just to "wind" up John and Jose ... :wink: :mrgreen: )


    It's not meant to make sense. Seiko did not believe in it and wasn't prepared to finance the research for it. It was the work and vision of one man, Mr Akahane. It's not horology, it's kinetic art that just also happens to tell the time because if it didn't, nobody would be paying for it. And many do. It's not replacing anything and Seiko is only using it as a flagship. If you can't see it. Move along, there is nothing to see. :P :blackeye:

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    that dial. spring drive or no spring drive, it is just wonderful

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    Agreed. It is a sight to behold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    It's not meant to make sense. Seiko did not believe in it and wasn't prepared to finance the research for it. It was the work and vision of one man, Mr Akahane. It's not horology, it's kinetic art that just also happens to tell the time because if it didn't, nobody would be paying for it. And many do. It's not replacing anything and Seiko is only using it as a flagship. If you can't see it. Move along, there is nothing to see. :P :blackeye:

    john
    Funny, that you should say that, John. It is exactly what I have done with my next watch purchase, which arrival is imminent :D

    I went from the "ordinary" Seiko models (if one can call a MM300 for ordinary) to the next level by way of leapfrogging any Spring Drive Seiko.

    More later when I have the watch in hand.

    PS
    You will hate it :twisted:

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    It's not meant to make sense.
    john
    Actually, it makes a lot of sense; to make a traditional looking watch a better timekeeper whilst still keeping the traditional good looks.

    ....and enough traditional features to keep those customers who have not jumped on even more outlandish design features comming back for more.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson
    , just to add that the video above is from my watch :D . It was worth to buy a camera with video just for this 8) .
    ops. :shock: I missed that! Sorry if I offended you! Great video. Would love to se one that is even closer if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson
    , just to add that the video above is from my watch :D . It was worth to buy a camera with video just for this 8) .
    ops. :shock: I missed that! Sorry if I offended you! Great video. Would love to se one that is even closer if possible.
    You MIGHT have suffered a quote fail .... ? :scratch:

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    Love this. Have to say that some of these high-end Seiko's really are unsung heros. I would compare them to Lexus vs Mercedes - just because Seiko's don't have the same pedigree as e.g. Rolex, it doesn't mean they're not made to the same (if not better) standards.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    ........

    PS
    You will hate it :twisted:
    FM?

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    There I was thinking how it's over two years since I last bought a watch (DC56) and how I'm happy with my 5, and I go and open this thread, and now the devil on my shoulder is whispering "6, 6 , 6.." in my ear. A lovely machine that, I want one now! :evil: :D
    F.T.F.A.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Very cool. Which is the model on the original link? I've had a look on line and can see similar looking grand seiko watches, but not that one.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by nellyh
    Very cool. Which is the model on the original link? I've had a look on line and can see similar looking grand seiko watches, but not that one.
    SBDB001.

    Aka MM600

    Japan only I'm afraid.

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    Like Spring Drive but IMHO the same look/tech can be had for much friendlier budget with recent Bulovas.

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by jnike
    Like Spring Drive but IMHO the same look/tech can be had for much friendlier budget with recent Bulovas.
    :?

    Do you mean the Precisionist? A fine quartz movement but completely different tech, and the second hand doesn't glide, it ticks very fast in the same way that mechanical sweep seconds do. But faster so it looks smoother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas

    FM?

    john
    AM?

    .....what do you mean, FM?

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    I'm a Seiko covert now. And spring drive is the natural next step for me.

    A spring drive ananta GMT. White face on bracelet.

    As soon as funds allow!

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus
    There I was thinking how it's over two years since I last bought a watch (DC56) and how I'm happy with my 5, and I go and open this thread, and now the devil on my shoulder is whispering "6, 6 , 6.." in my ear. A lovely machine that, I want one now! :evil: :D
    Always happy to help people to spend their money wisely :D

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Quote Originally Posted by yonsson
    , just to add that the video above is from my watch :D . It was worth to buy a camera with video just for this 8) .
    ops. :shock: I missed that! Sorry if I offended you! Great video. Would love to se one that is even closer if possible.
    You MIGHT have suffered a quote fail .... ? :scratch:
    Noooo, quote fail? why? Anyway, not offended :D

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by Plake
    Quote Originally Posted by jnike
    Like Spring Drive but IMHO the same look/tech can be had for much friendlier budget with recent Bulovas.
    :?

    Do you mean the Precisionist? A fine quartz movement but completely different tech, and the second hand doesn't glide, it ticks very fast in the same way that mechanical sweep seconds do. But faster so it looks smoother.
    I did and a good point, but it looks very close... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5PMPTKHxZ4
    Close enough to not justify the price difference imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Noooo, quote fail? why? Anyway, not offended :D
    Not you hence the quote fail :lol:

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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by robcat
    Love this. Have to say that some of these high-end Seiko's really are unsung heros. I would compare them to Lexus vs Mercedes - just because Seiko's don't have the same pedigree as e.g. Rolex, it doesn't mean they're not made to the same (if not better) standards.
    Seiko makes some watches that far exceed Rolex, check out their Credor line:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudspud2005
    Is the GS spring drive diver the grail of all Seiko holics?

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    Interesting question. For me the Seiko grail would be an original Astron... There's also the Credor line & the VFA Grand Seikos, would be above a SD diver for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus
    There I was thinking how it's over two years since I last bought a watch (DC56) and how I'm happy with my 5, and I go and open this thread, and now the devil on my shoulder is whispering "6, 6 , 6.." in my ear. A lovely machine that, I want one now! :evil: :D
    Which machine? Explain thyself.

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchScout
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas

    FM?

    john
    AM?

    .....what do you mean, FM?


    If it was, you would have known. Flightmaster, or some Credor version.

    Take a pick:
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    Re: Hypnotising Spring Drive seconds

    Quote Originally Posted by Plake
    Quote Originally Posted by walesi
    Quote Originally Posted by youveboughtwhat
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0WfVHar48g

    :albino:
    Does it "step", or does it really have constant angular speed?
    IŽd say it steps, but it might be the video too. If I had the brains, IŽd figure this out :)
    It doesn't step, it is run by a flywheel rotating in a single direction which is regulated by self-powered electromagnets. Perfectly smooth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_KkmwapoG0

    But the point is that it is an automatic mechanical watch that has done away with the timekeeping achilles heel of the mechanical watch that is the traditional escapement, so its accuracy is greatly improved. The smooth sweep is a beautiful thing but it is not the main point of the movement design.

    Or you could say that it is a quartz watch that has its energy stored in a spring rather than a battery or capacitor, but to simply label it a quartz movement really doesn't reflect the unusual and unique nature of its engineering. Its design really is ingenious.
    TY, now I know.

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