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    Precista's on parade.

    The final piece landed this morning and here they are all together.











    My own little Precista museum :) Bob.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    very nice Bob,thx for showing!

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    A very, very nice collection. I even like the look of the modified ammo box, where did you get it from ?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Maddog, thanks. I made the box myself out of an old wooden wine case which I had as much fun emptying ! Bob.

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    Eddie should definitely have a look at this thread. Wonderful.

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    Quite lovely. Love the crate.

    Best,

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    great collection bob 8) 8)

    liking the wine case idea as well.

    mike

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    The one with the Sea Serpent hands would make a great new project for Eddie.
    A great collection!

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Nice collection, but the one I am looking for at the moment is the chrono, it doesn´t come up all that often! :cry:
    I want to complete the big four!

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    first picture, watch in the middle is the bomb, is it a homage to a SM300?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by vortex89
    first picture, watch in the middle is the bomb, is it a homage to a SM300?


    Precista British Military Dive Watch
    http://www.50717.com/british/precista.html

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    Nice pieces !

    Congrats !

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Lovely collection! What was the last one to arrive, if I may ask?

    Here's a photo of my two vintage Precista divers along with an RN dive compass from the period (or thereabouts):

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Thanks for the comments. Nalu the one that completed the set was the 88 big triangle. I tried to buy the 88 you have pictured but alas was too late. I got the 82 auto first and tbh would not have gone for the set without that coming so early as they come up so rarely. The 88 I got came up on eBay with an 89 with no bezel insert and a starting price of 120 gbp. I sent him a message offering a bin price of 400gbp which was accepted and it was changed to bin 400 gbp . The time from the first listing to me hitting the bin button was forty one minutes including exchange of messages. Right place right time. Bob.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Lovely collection, thanks for showing :)

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    Very nice!
    first time I've seen the full Precista set. Congratulations!

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    Love that two button chrono.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    There is a 1982 Precista G10 quartz "Falklands" issue with thick case on the bay. Is the thick case any different then the 2 that are shown in the first collection above?

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    There were 2 different precista g10 styles. The first made in 1982 had the thick case front and thick case back known as a fat boy. The movement is exactly the same as CWC g10 from 1980 to 1982.
    The second style is from 1984 with a different movement. The caseback is still fat but the case front is the thinnest of all of the g10 watches. Normally the precista hands keep their appearance far better than the CWC equivalents.
    The watch you are looking at is the fat case model. The seller at anchor supplies is called Charlotte. Why don't you email her to ask what the lowest she will sell for. In the shop I have seen these at Ł95.
    P.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Thanks I already put an offer in for 110 but haven't heard back. Thank you for the info though I doubt I'll go any higher than 110 sounds pretty reasonable.

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    Precista's on parade.

    Lovely collection! Love the diver with the snowflake-ish hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12 bar
    Thanks I already put an offer in for 110 but haven't heard back. Thank you for the info though I doubt I'll go any higher than 110 sounds pretty reasonable.
    You should get it for that!

    P.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    There were 2 different precista g10 styles. The first made in 1982 had the thick case front and thick case back known as a fat boy. The movement is exactly the same as CWC g10 from 1980 to 1982.
    The second style is from 1984 with a different movement. The caseback is still fat but the case front is the thinnest of all of the g10 watches. Normally the precista hands keep their appearance far better than the CWC equivalents.
    The watch you are looking at is the fat case model. The seller at anchor supplies is called Charlotte. Why don't you email her to ask what the lowest she will sell for. In the shop I have seen these at Ł95.
    P.

    This got me to thinking what movements were in these and I have just been told,

    82 G10 - AS 536.121

    84 6BB - ETA/ESA 555.115


    Bob.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobc
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    There were 2 different precista g10 styles. The first made in 1982 had the thick case front and thick case back known as a fat boy. The movement is exactly the same as CWC g10 from 1980 to 1982.
    The second style is from 1984 with a different movement. The caseback is still fat but the case front is the thinnest of all of the g10 watches. Normally the precista hands keep their appearance far better than the CWC equivalents.
    The watch you are looking at is the fat case model. The seller at anchor supplies is called Charlotte. Why don't you email her to ask what the lowest she will sell for. In the shop I have seen these at Ł95.
    P.

    This got me to thinking what movements were in these and I have just been told,

    82 G10 - AS 536.121

    84 6BB - ETA/ESA 555.115


    Bob.
    I have noticed one difference between the CWC and Precista movement set ups for 1982. In the CWC watches the movements are fixed into the movement holding disc with 2 little screws. In all of the Precistas that I have taken to pieces, these 2 screws are missing and so everything is kept in place using the crown stem and the caseback. Therefore the CWC movement is held in the case more securely. I have used the CWC screws to tighten up the Precista movements.

    Anyone got any idea why the screws are missing in the Precista?

    Peter

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    Yummy!
    What's the SM300 hommage like?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by 12 bar
    There is a 1982 Precista G10 quartz "Falklands" issue with thick case on the bay. Is the thick case any different then the 2 that are shown in the first collection above?
    If it's the seller I'm thinking of, he takes quite a few liberties with his descriptions of provenance. Best taken with a large grain of NaCl.

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    nice collection and that is a nice box

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Well, as the original pics have disappeared I have signed up to photobucket pro and hopefully these will stay the distance. Also added a bit of info for reference. Bob.



    81 6BB chrono.

    Movement Valjoux 7733. 17jewels

    Case width 39.4mm
    Case with crown 41.2mm
    Lug to lug 46.5mm
    Thickness 13.7mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 52g




    82 auto diver

    Movement Eta 2783. 25 jewels (some are 21 jewels)

    Bezel 38mm
    Case with crown 42mm
    Lug to lug 47mm
    Thickness 13mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 53g




    82 G10

    Movement Esa 536.121

    Case width 36mm
    Case with crown 38mm
    Lug to lug 42.2mm
    Thickness 13.2mm
    Crown 5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 47g
    Battery CR 386




    84 6bb g10

    Movement Esa/Eta 555.112 (mine has a later replacement Eta F06 11a)
    so weight given is probably wrong.

    Case width 36mm
    Case with crown 38mm
    Lug to lug 42.2
    Thickness 11.6mm
    Crown 5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 34g
    Battery CR 394







    88/9 diver

    Movement Eta 955.114, replacement Eta 955.112


    Bezel 37.3mm
    Case with crown 42.6mm
    Lug to lug 44.2mm
    Thickness 11.2mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 50g
    Battery CR 394





    93 diver

    Movement Isa 1198/32

    Bezel 39mm
    Case with crown 43.2mm
    Lug to lug 47.6mm
    Thickness 11.9mm
    Crown 6mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 70g
    Battery CR 395






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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Great collection and presentation Bob. The '82 diver has it for me.

    Terry

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Its great to see an original Precista!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu
    Lovely collection! What was the last one to arrive, if I may ask?

    Here's a photo of my two vintage Precista divers along with an RN dive compass from the period (or thereabouts):

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    How often were Precista watches used in the armed forces?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    It is really awesome to see these Vintage piece that chrono is very nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobc
    Well, as the original pics have disappeared I have signed up to photobucket pro and hopefully these will stay the distance. Also added a bit of info for reference. Bob.



    81 6BB chrono.

    Case width 39.4mm
    Case with crown 41.2mm
    Lug to lug 46.5mm
    Thickness 13.7mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 52g




    82 auto diver

    Bezel 38mm
    Case with crown 42mm
    Lug to lug 47mm
    Thickness 13mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 53g




    82 G10

    Case width 36mm
    Case with crown 38mm
    Lug to lug 42.2mm
    Thickness 13.2mm
    Crown 5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 47g





    84 6bb g10

    Case width 36mm
    Case with crown 38mm
    Lug to lug 42.2
    Thickness 11.6mm
    Crown 5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 34g







    88/9 diver


    Bezel 37.3mm
    Case with crown 42.6mm
    Lug to lug 44.2mm
    Thickness 11.2mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 50g





    93 diver

    Bezel 39mm
    Case with crown 43.2mm
    Lug to lug 47.6mm
    Thickness 11.9mm
    Crown 6mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 70g






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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSK007
    How often were Precista watches used in the armed forces?

    There were seven issues of Precista watches procured for the Uk military as illustrated in the
    photos, so my collection is the full set as far as wrist watches go. Pocket watches and stop
    timers were also issued but I have no knowledge of these. Bob.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Very nice bobc. Did it take a while to make the set?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by EZM1
    Very nice bobc. Did it take a while to make the set?

    Well it took about 10 months and I feel very fortunate to have put them together in
    that timescale. The 82 auto came up on MWR at the end of last year and after a f2f
    at Ferrybridge service station the watch was bought the next day.

    At the time I had no plans to complete the set and then in Feb a 93 came up on ebay
    with a starting price of Ł575. It never attracted a bid and so I contacted the seller suggesting
    that perhaps their price might be a little high and a price was agreed. Arrangements were made to
    meet at another service station and when I turned up the sellers were a retired couple
    who then showed me two 93s and would I be interested in both. Two were duly bought
    and one was moved on to a fellow collector.

    Around the same time a 89 diver came up on MWR and as a plus had provenance from the
    seller/owner. The hands had been replaced with CWC diver hands but the provenance had
    me hooked. Another f2f at Ferrybridge and the third of the seven was in my hands. driving
    home I decided to go for the seven, which had not occured to me until that moment.

    Next came the 82 (g10) which I bought from a member on here, some lume was missing
    from the minute hand so I had it 'sympathetically' relumed.

    The 81 chrono was bought in a private transaction at the beginning of May.

    Then came the 84 6bb g10 again from a fellow TZer in May.

    Last came the 88 diver in September, which came from ebay and was sold with an 89 minus bezel insert. The hands from which were swapped with the CWC hands on the earlier 89 (provenance watch).

    So there you have it ,the timeline of the collection. I would be very surprised if they could be put together in such a time again considering the rarity of most of them, I have had a lot of luck. Bob.

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Nice litle museum! :bigsmurf:

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Great collection!
    The watches look to be in great condition, and I like the even patina on the lume and hands.
    That snowflake diver is very cool. 8)

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobc




    82 auto diver

    Movement Eta 2783. 25 jewels (some are 21 jewels)

    Bezel 38mm
    Case with crown 42mm
    Lug to lug 47mm
    Thickness 13mm
    Crown 6.5mm
    Strap bars 20mm
    Weight 53g

    This is great, any clue of how many where made?

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu
    Lovely collection! What was the last one to arrive, if I may ask?

    Here's a photo of my two vintage Precista divers along with an RN dive compass from the period (or thereabouts):
    Fantastic entire set, awesome collection!!! Thanks for sharing, Bob!

    What is the model number of the Precista on the right, Nalu? It looks amazing!

    Very Best Regards . . .

    Capt. Serdal

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    Re: Precista's on parade.

    Quote Originally Posted by slangen
    Quote Originally Posted by bobc

    82 auto diver
    .............
    This is great, any clue of how many where made?
    250

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobc View Post
    There were seven issues of Precista watches procured for the Uk military as illustrated in the
    photos, so my collection is the full set as far as wrist watches go. Pocket watches and stop
    timers were also issued but I have no knowledge of these. Bob.
    I think 1991 was near the end of Presista Stopwatch production.
    This dial has the manufacturers name "Racine" greyed out / and over-printed with Precista on the top.
    It looks like a rush job to get the batch out of the door.
    Presista are likely to have been subcontracting the parts supply, or manufacture via Racine.


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    Precista Stop Watches

    Various models of Precista stop watches were issued in batches between 1981 and 1997.

    Racine (Gallet) was one of the manufacturer's that Southern Watch & Clock Supplies Ltd used
    to produce their Precista models.

    Terry
    Last edited by Terry; 28th September 2013 at 12:46.

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    Love them all !

    Great collection...

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    Splendid collection, Bob!

    May I trouble You with a caseback pic of the '81 6BB chronograph, please?

    Thanks so much.

    Brane

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    Great suff

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    First time I've seen this thread, great collection!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobc View Post

    Last came the 88 diver in September, which came from ebay and was sold with an 89 minus bezel insert. The hands from which were swapped with the CWC hands on the earlier 89 (provenance watch).
    Love all the stories behind them bob - I really like the precista divers watches particularly.

    Your description of the ebay 88/89s brought back a teeth gnashing memory - I saw them on 'completed listings' at the time and wished I'd spotted them first! Great price - especially given the 'precista inflation' which has taken place recently!

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    Is it possible to find some more information on the '82 auto diver anywhere?

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    First time I've seen this thread, what a great collection. I was very tempted by the chrono

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    1982 Precista Diver

    Quote Originally Posted by Zacherl321 View Post
    Is it possible to find some more information on the '82 auto diver anywhere?
    Try searching on this forum or MWR for Precista 1982 Automatic Diver. If you can't find what you want to know send me a PM and I may be able to help.

    Terry

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