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Yeah, I could see them doing a Dreadnought or similar. Imagine if they're going after microbrand stuff, it will be stuff with a cult following, that fetches big money on the secondary market.

I do...

Blimey, a Halios homage. They're ripping off micro brands now?

Wonder how many people here would buy it if they made a Steeldive Dreadnought...

I've no interest whatsoever in defending or advocating on behalf of Seiko. I also have no issue at all with homages, except, as expressed earlier, where they are direct 1:1 copies of a watch still in...

It's not just the movement. You're missing the point.

There are zero original Steeldive designs. They do zero marketing. I'm quite sure that, to the extent they exist as a company, they aren't...

I'm not defending anyone. I'd love to see Seiko improve their QA, and regulate movements in their affordable watches.

I'm just pointing out that the watches you cite as evidence that Seiko are...

Don't understand how you can say the Sumo homage is a better watch than the real £740 Sumo.

These Steeldive jobbies have your basic common or garden unregulated cheap as chips NH35. The Sumo has...

Well, I mean, it kind of is...

Lol.