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Sorry, I was being amused by you describing a destro watch as 'having the dial in upside down'.

The destro thing is a 'tool' thing, that some think is a left hand thing... but really is mostly...

I think that's the most missing-the-point and negative interpretation of destro ever written 😂😂😊😊😊

Pretty good investment!

Yup, but it's a meritless misery, I paid £1078 for my first 16710 in 1990.... not much can be drawn from that except 'so what?'😂😊

It's interesting tracking the pricing of a couple of the modern English brands in the sales section. Gives a bit of comparative groundtruth on value retention, which is invariably significantly worse...

Yup, I did the same shoulderless spring bar and snip route with my 2231.

I'm still being stunned on a daily basis how legible the CWC and the 83 hands are; it is hands-down the brightest lume on...

On CWC dive watches and 'issue'.... my view as a Forces-lifer: Ignore it.
No offence to anyone, each to his own, but the 'issue' cachet is an internet-thing. If you want a decent dive watch...

As a student in 1985 or 86, I was in Weymouth for a 21st.

I clearly remember a proper surplus shop in the town centre, which - extremely unusually back then - had ten or so G10s in the window. ...

Dave,
You make a lot of assumptions, starting with a misperception that this thread set out to represent CWC as good value and ending with an inference you draw from an implication that I don't...

Yup which is what makes this focussed anti-CWC narrative from some so odd.

I'm also independent, I'm just struck by how CWC is singled-out - and I suspect much of that is sour grapes as described in one of my earlier posts.

Depreciation from new? I think we fag-packeted...

So, I think you're contending that that reduces production costs over 4 decades later? If so, understood, but not sure I agree.

As regards pricing of Swiss vs Chinese and HK alternatives, I think...

Interesting points and, just 'chatting' back (I realise I'm in danger of sounding like a cwc defender, which I'm not, I just see inconsistency in the way some the brand is sometimes discussed)
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Afterthought. Genuine questions:

I'm puzzled, why do you feel that being a monnin-style case has a bearing on the cost? You seem to be saying that feature makes a watch cheaper - or have I...

I think the key philosophical difference at play here is what you describe as "what can we get away with?" is what I think many businesses would describe as selling at market value - ie, things...

(I have no idea why asterisks appear in my posts here!)

Interesting points* - I'm aware there was a price increase a while back, but I still read people comparing prices way back with prices now. Three points on that:

1.** Charity or business?* The...

It's rather a facile point, what movt do many Tudors use?

What's in 2254 and 2264 Omega's? 😂

....and if such high quality Swiss movts can be made so cheaply, does that not give you pause to...

Yup. (Oddly, in my back-to-front brain, that makes the CWC cooler 😂😊 - sort of, a watch for 'those who know' !)

Well, that's sort of my point; in actual value, two dive watches made in Switzerland with broadly identical components, why do you feel the Tag had greater value? (Funnily, to my mind, Tag is the...

100%.

I certainly need another coffee, but I'm always struck by the logic disconnect to the price derision.
I do buy the point on halo effect. It'll be interesting to see if any other...

Yup good point.

I've written that over my 1st morning coffee... rather over bluntly worded...and no smileys, so please read it as though I typed it with a smile on my face and a skip in my step and scattered it...

A recurring theme I've noted over 5 or so years reading here is occasional, but repetitive, posts including statements along the lines of

"CWC dive watch pricing is insane - I wouldn't pay that...