Man murdered for his Rolex

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20th April 2021, 08:43
tommyzzj

Man murdered for his Rolex

Tragic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...r-56803693.amp

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20th April 2021, 08:51
markbannister

Yes tragic but it seems, reading it, it was more that he was just attacked and happened to be wearing a Rolex. Nowhere except in the headline does it state he was robbed for his Rolex. BBC doing its worst again.
20th April 2021, 08:54
wileeeeeey

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Originally Posted by markbannister

Yes tragic but it seems, reading it, it was more that he was just attacked and happened to be wearing a Rolex. Nowhere except in the headline does it state he was robbed for his Rolex. BBC doing its worst again.

Other news sources are available with the exact same story. His watch has never been found.
20th April 2021, 09:36
chrisparker

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Originally Posted by markbannister

Yes tragic but it seems, reading it, it was more that he was just attacked and happened to be wearing a Rolex. Nowhere except in the headline does it state he was robbed for his Rolex. BBC doing its worst again.

I'm guessing he wouldn't have been attacked had he not been wearing a watch. I don't think the BBC are at fault here. It's a shocking attack and would make me think twice about wearing a Submariner in Wigan. (Not that I ever plan on visiting Wigan mind you).
20th April 2021, 09:44
Bravo73

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Originally Posted by markbannister

Nowhere except in the headline does it state he was robbed for his Rolex. BBC doing its worst again.

Third paragraph:

“ Manchester Crown Court heard he had been drinking in a nearby pub with Lewis Peake, 29, who decided to steal the 18-carat watch he was wearing.”
20th April 2021, 10:00
paskinner

Any excuse to trash the BBC....who seem to have offered a straightforward account of a horrid crime.
In what way is that the ‘BBC doing its worst’?
20th April 2021, 10:04
redmonaco

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Originally Posted by paskinner

Any excuse to trash the BBC....who seem to have offered a straightforward account of a horrid crime.
In what way is that the ‘BBC doing its worst’?

Calm down, its not the bear pit... :0(
20th April 2021, 10:05
markbannister

Misread it, apologies. So I'm wrong about the Beeb this time.
20th April 2021, 10:11
paskinner

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Originally Posted by markbannister

Misread it, apologies. So I'm wrong about the Beeb this time.

That’s a gentleman.
20th April 2021, 11:58
snowman

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Originally Posted by redmonaco

Calm down, its not the bear pit... :0(

And yet we have to tolerate the BBC panning?

Reminds me of the "Come back soon, Boris, the country needs you" post that was fine, but people saying we were better off without him were 'bringing politics into the G&D"...

While Mr Bannister has admitted his error, he has rather "Pritti'd" it with "I was wrong about the Beeb this time".

M
20th April 2021, 12:51
paskinner

As someone who worked in BBC News for thirty years, I can tell you that while not perfect , of course,
people do try very hard. But the ‘truth’ is an endlessly evasive and slippery thing. That’s just how it is. Tricky........
20th April 2021, 13:30
McBeardy

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Originally Posted by paskinner

As someone who worked in BBC News for thirty years, I can tell you that while not perfect , of course,
people do try very hard. But the â€˜truthâ€™ is an endlessly evasive and slippery thing. Thatâ€™s just how it is. Tricky........

Have to agree having my partner work in this said environment. I know too well the standard the Beeb have for news. Which is much higher than other providers.

We will miss it once it’s gone like the NHS.

But like the NHS and easy target for many.

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20th April 2021, 19:40
AlwaysAlba

The moral of the story is to really think about wearing something expensive in a pub and having it on display. It's a very sad state of affairs and in a perfect world, it shouldn't be a problem but we don't live in a perfect world.
20th April 2021, 19:53
Rob s

It's a shocking story and does make you think twice about wearing an expensive watch out.

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20th April 2021, 20:06
Chinnock

Sad story indeed.

Unfortunately as the wealth divide increases, so will these types of crimes.
20th April 2021, 20:13
Manxdiver

Lot more detail here - far from a random attack.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news...x-court-hears/
20th April 2021, 20:17
Billy4389

That’s shocking, scum

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20th April 2021, 20:42
blackal

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Originally Posted by Rob s

It's a shocking story and does make you think twice about wearing an expensive watch out.

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Told a random male stranger in a pub - that he had just had the watch valued......................

I don't think the act of 'wearing' it- was the principle factor.
20th April 2021, 22:02
robt
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Originally Posted by Manxdiver

Lot more detail here - far from a random attack.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news...x-court-hears/

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Originally Posted by blackal

Told a random male stranger in a pub

So many bizarre aspects to that story.
- Decides in the middle of a pandemic to travel to London in order to fly to Thailand.
- Changes mind because of the quarantine period, but apparently did not think of this before setting out.
- Upon arriving back in Wigan, decides "I wonder how much this watch I'm wearing is worth" and so heads straight to Goldsmiths before even bothering to drop off his suitcase
- Next stop is the pub, where he promptly tells some stranger the value
- Stranger then goes outside and tries to pay the first other randos he can find £100 to help him rob the first guy. Faiis.
- Finally, successfully recruits some other youths who just got off a train from Liverpool, who predictably rob the pair of them and immediately head home, using the £100 robbery fee to pay for their taxi.
- Having failed to steal the Rolex, stranger makes a point of returning to the scene to steal the suitcase.
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20th April 2021, 22:28
jukeboxs

Moral of the story - don't wear an expensive watch and tell random strangers how much its worth without expecting some consequences. No excuse though for their heinous actions - they should be jailed for life or worse.
20th April 2021, 23:27
MartynJC (UK)

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Originally Posted by jukeboxs

Moral of the story - don't wear an expensive watch and tell random strangers how much its worth without expecting some consequences. No excuse though for their heinous actions - they should be jailed for life or worse.

Another moral - don’t go and sit in a church yard with a complete stranger and take drugs with them, after saying how much your watch is worth.
20th April 2021, 23:33
unclealec

In an ideal world - one can go about one's life with the expectation that one won't be robbed, assaulted, or murdered.

In the real world - don't flaunt ostentatious symbols of wealth; don't engage in bouts of reality-altering substance abuse in the company of total strangers.

I would prefer to live in an ideal world, but have to recognise that I live in the real world.
20th April 2021, 23:59
Fender
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Originally Posted by robt

So many bizarre aspects to that story.

Decides in the middle of a pandemic to travel to London in order to fly to Thailand.
Changes mind because of the quarantine period, but apparently did not think of this before setting out.
Upon arriving back in Wigan, decides "I wonder how much this watch I'm wearing is worth" and so heads straight to Goldsmiths before even bothering to drop off his suitcase
Next stop is the pub, where he promptly tells some stranger the value
Stranger then goes outside and tries to pay the first other randos he can find £100 to help him rob the first guy. Faiis.
Finally, successfully recruits some other youths who just got off a train from Liverpool, who predictably rob the pair of them and immediately head home, using the £100 robbery fee to pay for their taxi.
Having failed to steal the Rolex, stranger makes a point of returning to the scene to steal the suitcase.

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He was all at sea after a relationship breaking down. And might just have been a naive, vulnerable character.

Sometimes life just throws the wrong people together at the wrong time.

The killers would likely have killed or caused serious injury to someone else, somewhere down the line, now they’ll end up in a cage where they belong. Callous scum.
21st April 2021, 00:39
Hood

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Originally Posted by Fender

He was all at sea after a relationship breaking down. And might just have been a naive, vulnerable character.

Sometimes life just throws the wrong people together at the wrong time.

The killers would likely have killed or caused serious injury to someone else, somewhere down the line, now they’ll end up in a cage where they belong. Callous scum.

Absolutely
21st April 2021, 08:03
Carlton-Browne

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Originally Posted by unclealec

In an ideal world - one can go about one's life with the expectation that one won't be robbed, assaulted, or murdered.

In the real world - don't flaunt ostentatious symbols of wealth; don't engage in bouts of reality-altering substance abuse in the company of total strangers.

I would prefer to live in an ideal world, but have to recognise that I live in the real world.

I think you missed the life lesson about not drinking in Wetherspoons.
21st April 2021, 08:26
unclealec

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Originally Posted by Carlton-Browne

I think you missed the life lesson about not drinking in Wetherspoons.

I do prefer real pubs, but have been known to enter JD's in an emergency, suitably de-blinged of course.
21st April 2021, 13:52
misterzero

Tragic waste of a life ,a very bizarre story there must be more to it than meets the eye .

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23rd April 2021, 11:57
RJM25R

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Originally Posted by unclealec

In an ideal world - one can go about one's life with the expectation that one won't be robbed, assaulted, or murdered.

In the real world - don't flaunt ostentatious symbols of wealth; don't engage in bouts of reality-altering substance abuse in the company of total strangers.

I would prefer to live in an ideal world, but have to recognise that I live in the real world.

Great post.
23rd April 2021, 12:07
abraxas

Rolex Thugs Strike Again – Decision Time!
https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/202...decision-time/
23rd April 2021, 15:34
ozzyb123

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Originally Posted by abraxas

Rolex Thugs Strike Again – Decision Time!
https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/202...decision-time/

The conclusion of that article being - carry a gun and shoot first OR don’t wear a Rolex?

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23rd April 2021, 17:12
oldoakknives

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Originally Posted by unclealec

In an ideal world - one can go about one's life with the expectation that one won't be robbed, assaulted, or murdered.

In the real world - don't flaunt ostentatious symbols of wealth; don't engage in bouts of reality-altering substance abuse in the company of total strangers.

I would prefer to live in an ideal world, but have to recognise that I live in the real world.

Reminds me of the series 'The Serpent'.

Bet a few ageing hippies watched that and breathed a sigh of relief.

(yes)
23rd April 2021, 17:36
Rev-O

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Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK)

Another moral - don’t go and sit in a church yard with a complete stranger and take drugs with them, after saying how much your watch is worth.

That's a lesson for us all, I feel.
23rd April 2021, 18:18
2ptjoe

Just jumped in and read all the above.
So sad in that it makes me feel nervous about wearing mine and I live in what some may class, Cambridge, as a decent area.
28th April 2021, 21:22
Smileyguy70

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Originally Posted by markbannister

Yes tragic but it seems, reading it, it was more that he was just attacked and happened to be wearing a Rolex. Nowhere except in the headline does it state he was robbed for his Rolex. BBC doing its worst again.

Iv seen a lot of this though... people being targeted in central london for their watches. Its become easy pickings for scooter thiefs

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