.....along with loads of updates to other Apple products. A bit late to this as not long in from a lllllooooonnnnngggg day in work.
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.....along with loads of updates to other Apple products. A bit late to this as not long in from a lllllooooonnnnngggg day in work.
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Originally Posted by Skier
Running 17 and watch os10 now
How stable is the beta?Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Sound, I’ve not had any issues since Betas of 10 and aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK)
It’s not bad, this is the first early ish beta that doesn’t break the HSBC/First Direct App which is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK)
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So what? Most of us use our products as productive, critical devices and only upgrade when updates are deemed releasable. If you want to run betas then fine, that's your call but that's not the purpose of this post. This post is advising people that updates deemed mature enough for public release are available.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
From experience the betas from 11 onwards have been fine and a phone isnt critical to me. Most of the public betas are 95% there whereas developers tend not to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skier
The so what? Is why does a watch forum need to know every-time a update is released when the phone tells you anyway!
Wow! So you install beta software and are clearly interested in testing it and then question why people might like to know when updates are released. I know from looking after my late father's phone that the iPhone won't update for several weeks after the release of new software if left to its own devices. Oh, and this update is posted in the George & Dragon, not Watch Talk but continue to make your asinine points.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Where's the option to install these?Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
It might not update but availability is indicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skier
Erm Hello its a Phone! Did anyone die from updating or not updating one!
From my experience os17 and watch os10 is fine. That all. Chose your own path.
Settings : General : Software Updates : then chose BetaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingstepper
Later phones have a switch (I have a 12 and this option is available).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingstepper
No, it isn't unless searched for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingstepper
Switch? (I have 13 Pro.)Quote:
Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK)
Can't see that!Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
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Thought Settings had a 'marker' of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skier
I can see it and it’s not Beta.
17?Quote:
Originally Posted by learningtofly
Sorry - I thought we were talking about 16.6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingstepper
No, think we can all see that. I asked how to get the betas.Quote:
Originally Posted by learningtofly
Maybe it's network dependent?
Nothing to do with network. Probably Apple ID dependant. Go to developer.apple.com and sign the agreementQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingstepper
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^^ Thanks!
Some Salty comments here. It's just a phone update!
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Must like the salty taste! I don’t ‘test’ a beta I just put it on the devices and use it rather than waiting. If you are risk averse then wait for the official but as I said above from experience I haven’t had a drama with watchOS, iOS or indeed any of the macOS’s when I had a laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnick1975
It is quite ironic that when they release the ‘safe’ version they then spend the next year releasing updates to it! No different in my opinion to addressing beta issues as they arise
No irony at all, it is absolutely what is expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
The issue will always be "how good a job they did on the alpha before they chose to release the beta?"
As long as the job was good enough, you'll be fine.
Then there is the unexpected combination of instructions that really requires you to reinstall everything. If your use of the phone is not critical to your professional life, and you have safe backup (that is not updated until the beta is gone) you'll be fine. A secondary frequent back up may also help recover whatever was introduced since you installed the beta.
The question is: what benefit do you get?
Personally, I have a fairly old phone (8) so I'm only interested in security issues as I will hardly ever gain new features (it happens, but rarely). And if it's for security going to a beta would entirely negate the purpose.
Even if I had the newest phone, would I do beta? Probably not, as I probably do not have the discipline for nightly HD backups (the cloud is automatic).
I like the new drug testing scheme analogy. When a lab is getting ready to test it on humans, it asks for healthy volunteers (they are paid) to check for side effects. Then it's tested for efficiency (patients who agreed to being part of the trial) against existing drugs (if any) and placebo.
And when it is released you still get a very efficient pharmacovigilance system to report any secondary effects so that it can be established if they are linked to the drug or not. That stage is the equivalent of the different updates that are released (like 16.6).
Your 17 beta is the equivalent of one of the 2 previous stages, depending on whether you need the improvement (patient) or not (healthy volunteer).
It does funkier things than the previous one did, that’s it really. No real benefit to my life or happiness but the new Watch os10 Snoopy face is funQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint-Just
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Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Dumbphones all round, that's my advice.
Which one have you got? I’ve tried the Nokia 110 4g and it’s dreadful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamaster73
Punkt MP02.Quote:
Originally Posted by oiljam
All those HMD "Nokia" knockoffs are the same. I tried a couple and came to the same conclusion. Forget those.
Nice one! I’ve always wanted to try one of these but the price puts me off slightly. I imagined it would be an expensive experiment, especially as I’ve tried several times already with the Nokia. Did you buy direct from Punkt, any discount code, etc. Please let us know how you get on with it long term. Any advice welcome really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamaster73
Bought mine from Amazon. You can get 10% off buying direct from Punkt if you sign up to their (very infrequent and not uninteresting) newsletter.Quote:
Originally Posted by oiljam
Had it a couple of months now. It gets all the basics right with no fuss: it's well made with super call quality and a smart take on predictive texting. Bluetooth and tethering work as expected. Battery life is about four days on standby. Weighs nothing, but doesn't feel cheap. Nor does it feel like a step back in time (unlike those ghastly fake Nokias). It's pricey but you don't feel shortchanged.
I've been rather surprised at how little I've missed the iPhone, having carried one since the day it launched in 2007. But, like any toxic relationship, you have to know when to walk away.
Some people feel special doing it, like they are above everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skier
I doubt downloading a beta will make me feel special. Now trolling a watch forum. Thats special. Or better still 'My AD calling'. Now thats special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mj2k
Its a beautiful world when you make a choice and are flamed as special for it. Id prefer to be know as stupid, reckless, dangerous or living on the edge. What if my phone stops working properly. My life would be ruined. Give me a break. Its offered and you chose who gives a fuck. One bloke saying updates out. Another saying im using a beta and its fine. Just shared experience. Simple
Or are your panties still wet from the Bremont Viper thread and spilling over to this now!?!
I, for one, like the PSA on updates. Can’t hurt to be prompted to check.
No swearing in here, muppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
I’m just glad your phone isn’t an important part of your life, you recklessly cool kid.
Can you go back to trolling Notaglove now we are freinds againQuote:
Originally Posted by Mj2k
Ps: Watch Os10 Beta 4 just dropped. Installing now. Im really moist
You go steady with that moistness!Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Do you wear 2 watches or just not bother with mechanicals? I got rid of my Apple Watch as just never wore proper watches anymore.
Miss the notifications and functionality.
Interesting question, on one hand (excuse the pun) I like the iwatch, wear it at work a lot as can glance in meetings but also find the alerts notify me of things I didn’t need to know but they become priorities when they are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mj2k
I still always wear a mechanical watch and rotate between whatever takes my fancy or suits the occasion but I do often think I could live without more than just one watch. Where the iwatch is good is when you don’t want to take a phone with you like surfing or canoeing or on bike, then its a nice safety
Yes I found the Apple Watch was just too convenient to grab & go, but was frustrated I couldn’t use any sleep tracking as always needed to be charged overnight as I was rubbish at doing it when at my desk etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Had only the most important notifications come through as otherwise it drove me insane, but liked being able to keep track on what was going on without looking at my phone.
Best part was being able to control music playback when streaming in my car, as in their infinite wisdom the manufacturer decided buttons on the wheel were not a useful addition
Ironically I have the ultra that has long battery and all the gadgets but the HR pulse tracker doesnt work as I have tattoos and I never dive in it.
Infact the more I think about it I should sell it !
We have a weird hobby eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Love my Oura but miss notifications.
Ultra is certainly one I want to try next.
I would sell you mine but its got a dirty beta on it [emoji12]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mj2k
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Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
I think it would revert to a released version if paired with a phone that did not seek the betas. I might be wrong.
It does im having a laughQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint-Just