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Hello you lovelies
Do any of you have a contact details for Steve Burrage (ex Ryte Time, Leicester)?
I'm actually a good friend of his (no, really) but my phone was nicked a couple of weeks ago and I seem to have lost a lot of numbers, including his.
I tried an email but it just bounced back and I normally text or call him.
I could just drive over there but it's about an hour away and he might not be in.
Bugger!
Thanks
Can`t help with contact details, but relying on saving info in phones is a mistake and there's too much risk of losing it. Trusty old address book for me, never lets me down.
Or back it up like 90% of people who live in 2018 and own a smartphone do automatically?
Thanks now sorted.
Think most people’s address books are synced to iCloud or whatever platform they use.Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
I used to communicate via smoke signal but living in a city these smokeless fuel rules are a right royal PITA. Everyone tells me I should invest in a couple of pigeons but I don't know, all this new fangled technology... :smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
The baffling 'who is this? Got new phone' when you message someone...Quote:
Originally Posted by astonandy
These paper address books are incredibly reliable, and being quite large they’re quite difficult to lose. Amazing technology, you write the relevent information on the correct page with a pen........and it’s there forever!
Mobile phones are excellent....provided their limitations are recognised. A mobile phone is an ‘ as well as’, not an ‘ instead of’.
I would never rely on a mobile phone as a primary storage resource for essential information, the logic is seriously flawed.
As long as Apple keep going I am unlikely to loose my contact details.
Of course books can’t burn, no sir. Not a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
Picture this. We are in a pub drinking, your book on the table, my phone along side it. Some nutter nicks your book along with my gleaming iPhone. Your life connections are gone, mine will be restored the moment I pick up a new phone.
Welcome to the 21st century.
Address book lives in the house in a safe place........simple!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chalet
No need for the sarcasm, phones are fine, but it’s all to easy to lose them.
Yes, if the house catches fire I’ve got a problem, but that’s unlikely.
As well as backing up my iPhone weekly, or even sooner if I change the music on it, I also save my contacts to the MCBackup app and mail the small file it creates it to my iPad and Mac.
No it isn’t. Ink fades. Now pencil, that’s forever.... we’ll at least longer than ink!!Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
:-)
If I lose my phone, I buy a new one and everything is restored. I think you've misunderstood how these devices store and back-up data. Everything is synch'd to Apple / Google etc cloud servers so that if the device goes walkies or ends up at the bottom of the sea all data, photos, messages, emails, contacts can be immediately recovered.Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
Rubbish, pencil can be smudged, in fact the whole book thing is daft in these modern times. they can burn, get wet, dropped and pages fall out etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onespeed
A backed up phone is the way to go. Or do like I do get a PA, if you get a skinny one they don't even cost much to feed
Still OT with respect to the question from the OP but..... It's unusual these days for mobile phone data to be saved only on the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
As you say Paul, the biggest problem with a lost phone used to be the loss of data, when the phones themselves were cheap. Nowadays the data is instantly and constantly available on multiple devices simultaneously, being saved to an account on a cloud server. Now it's the actual value of the phone that's more significant and very annoying if it gets lost or stolen.
Your paper book may be significantly cheaper but as a single source of the data it's actually far more vulnerable than most online iPhone or Google accounts, even when tucked away safely in your house.
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I used to think that address books were the way to go but then I went to bed and woke up in the 21st century.
My comment was very much tongue in cheek, but ink smudges too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunya
And you re no better off if your PA walks out because you re not feeding them.
As for storing information digitally, how many cases have there been of info/accounts being hacked? And of course a book could be stolen.
Bottom line is we store info in the way we prefer. No method is daft just to taste. :-)
Here’s a novel concept for storing data.......it’s called a memory! In the past it was common to remember phone numbers, I probably stored around 50 in my head at some point. With the advent of long mobile numbers this became nigh-on imposible; currently I ‘store’ 3 and that’s all. I guess the concept of trying to remember stuff ( addresses, phone numbers etc) has become outdated, everyone relies on the ubiquitous mobile phone to remember everything.......maybe people don’t even attempt to commit stuff to memory!
The brain’s like a muscle, it benefits from regular use, and I firmly believe memory is the same. If you stop trying to learn stuff you lose the ability to learn.
All this Cloud crap us fine........... but what happens if /when it fails? Are we all happy trusting a third party to store information rather than doing it ourselves? I’m not.
Anyhow, the OP should’ve committed Steve’s contact details to memory......simple!
Ah the good old days. I'm sure my memory would have been much better back then but I can't remember that far.
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Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
What if memory fails or is damaged by potentials such as grief, trauma, ill health or age, Dr Wek?
I work in I.T and would never store personal details in the cloud it's just not safe enough for me personally and I know how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
People need to use their brains a bit more as has been stated above.
I’m not sure what kind of IT you work in, but if you know howQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFixer
cloud storage works and you think it isn’t a safe place to store personal details, I’d suggest that your career options may be running out. I doubt there are many large companies not storing personal data in the cloud and I doubt there will be any in three years’ time.
I don't need options I am self-employed.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfat33
And I also said personally what others do is up to them.
Cloud storage and cloud based apps are convenient as they can be accessed from pretty much anywhere and on almost anything, but boy it is annoyingly slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfat33
Locally installed Office apps still work noticeably faster than Office365, and during a busy day the delays do get tiresome
That can be frustrating. A combination of local and cloud can work best.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunya
True, but then there’s not much point in the cloud, except storage, which can be vulnerable depending on providerQuote:
Originally Posted by alfat33
Azure is pretty good these days. Plus you get unified comms, file sharing, collaborative working, automatic upgrades, integration with single sign and identity management, good mobile clients, security protection etc. But it take a bit of setting up and managing, isn’t cheap and not for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunya
PS A lot of that stuff appeals to Millennials ;).
Most companies already use the cloud for infrastructure not just storage, especially start ups and now more traditional companies are already catching up.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunya
Corporate owned datacenters (which are mostly colocated these days) may replicate once - with cloud there are multiple copies in same region and in different countries if you pay for it.
On a personal level how many use Office 365, Adobe Products, Apple email , google mail and other apps. They are all ‘cloud’ based. The compute and data storage is not local for Maps or Google Earth or search engines like Bing or Google etc.
Anyway ‘cloud’ is nothing new - it used to be called hosted services - perhaps it is the scale that is different. Microsoft order in truck loads of servers at a time to populate their Azure datacenters.