A must have for all openworked owners

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9th June 2018, 08:48
pitbull666

A must have for all openworked owners

This book ‘High-end horological finishing and decoration (authors: Caroline Sermier & Giulio Papi)’ was pointed out to me by Chris (P2725TMB over on TRF) well I’m very pleased he did as it’s a great read and a huge insight into the amount of work that goes into hand finishing these movements from what you would imagine to be a basic screw which in itself requires a lot of finishing all the way up to the decorative engraving.

Techniques are timeless but in regards to models this book is a little dated as there is not reference to the likes of the 15305 or 15407 but the underlying hand crafted methods are the same, clearly the photos etc will be AP related but the processes themselves are universal so a good read for everyone.

I’ve sent hours reading the book with my 15407st and loupe in hand.

Really gives an understanding into the level of work and time spent on perfecting the movement, and only compounded my love for this piece in my collection.

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9th June 2018, 08:53
Webwatchmaker

That looks very interesting. Does it have a section on enamel dials by any chance ?

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9th June 2018, 08:53
33JS

Very nice, thanks for bringing that up. Will have to track a copy. It's polarising amongst WIS, but I really like openwork/skeletonised!
9th June 2018, 08:59
pitbull666

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Originally Posted by Webwatchmaker

That looks very interesting. Does it have a section on enamel dials by any chance ?

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Sadly not!

These are the areas/techniques covered
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9th June 2018, 09:01
Webwatchmaker

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Originally Posted by pitbull666

Sadly not!

These are the areas/techniques covered
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Thanks for that.
Sadly enamellers are very secretive.

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9th June 2018, 09:01
pitbull666

A must have for all openworked owners

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Originally Posted by 33JS

Very nice, thanks for bringing that up. Will have to track a copy. It's polarising amongst WIS, but I really like openwork/skeletonised!

Here have them in stock
http://www.watchprint.com

Or you can try your friendly AP AD

Another good AP read is this
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9th June 2018, 09:08
pitbull666

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Originally Posted by Webwatchmaker

Thanks for that.
Sadly enamellers are very secretive.

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Appears that way!

It’s been a great read and opened my eyes to the level of work carried out, now looking into other similar books.
9th June 2018, 10:31
Webwatchmaker

Even the late Godmother of Horological books, Rita Shenton, could find nothing on enamel dials and the painting of them.

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11th January 2019, 18:27
Snowdon

Love the title of the thread

"owners"

What if one just likes the look of them but prefers wearing their PP minute repeater 24/7 and that's the only watch they own? Still relevant or is it just for owners?

I remember one rolex milsub owner telling the forum many years back that phoenix nato straps were available from rolex St James' but he wasn't sure if you had to be a milsub owner to buy one or not.

Have a nice evening everyone :)
11th January 2019, 18:54
crazyp

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Originally Posted by pitbull666

Appears that way!

It’s been a great read and opened my eyes to the level of work carried out, now looking into other similar books.

This looks a very nice book!!!

I have to say black polishing is probably my favourite. I'm a bit meh on anglage obsessiveness tbh. I also like frosting which tends to be associated with more 'English' movements - frosting by Greubel Forsey is immense (actually GF are the best example on how to do finishing) - good example here - https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...ncier-sapphire
11th January 2019, 21:21
JGJG

Excellent. Must be nice to be able to see and sort of “unlock” all the knowledge and appreciation of the value of the work in your watch after you already thought you know it quite well.
7th April 2019, 13:38
pitbull666

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Originally Posted by Snowdon

Love the title of the thread

"owners"

What if one just likes the look of them but prefers wearing their PP minute repeater 24/7 and that's the only watch they own? Still relevant or is it just for owners?

I remember one rolex milsub owner telling the forum many years back that phoenix nato straps were available from rolex St James' but he wasn't sure if you had to be a milsub owner to buy one or not.

Have a nice evening everyone :)

Yes I said must have for owners which in my opinion it is as it shows the work gone into these watches and will help a lucky owner appreciate what he has, however at no point have I said exclusively for openworked owners so calm down buy the book and enjoy hahaha
7th April 2019, 22:07
Snowdon

Sooooo, where do I get one of these books? Will AP gift me one if I turn up at their Bond St offices?
7th April 2019, 23:20
mtagrant

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Sooooo, where do I get one of these books? Will AP gift me one if I turn up at their Bond St offices?

Maybe if you buy the watch and become an owner. Otherwise probably need to buy the book