Small to medium SUV, Merc GLA or GLC anyone got one or something better?

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Originally Posted by Boss13

The GLC does not have parking sensors?? Are you sure?
When we spec'd ours I did not tick a box for them and we do have them. I was fairly sure they are standard. Unless things have changed and you now have to tick a box. We did go for the 360 camera too. I would be astonished if your brand new GLC doesn't have them!!

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Night edition. I think it's job is to look amazing but have no toys. They don't have folding mirrors either.

Smart choice is usually Sport trim with Premium Plus pack.

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Originally Posted by Boss13

The GLC does not have parking sensors?? Are you sure?
When we spec'd ours I did not tick a box for them and we do have them. I was fairly sure they are standard. Unless things have changed and you now have to tick a box. We did go for the 360 camera too. I would be astonished if your brand new GLC doesn't have them!!

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Be astonished! It definitely doesn't have them. It does have a rear camera though.

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Originally Posted by wileeeeeey

Night edition. I think it's job is to look amazing but have no toys. They don't have folding mirrors either.

Smart choice is usually Sport trim with Premium Plus pack.

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We have the amg line premium plus it has sensors,camera,sunroof folding mirrors , keyless entry and memory seats.
The sensors are now on the dashboard above where the gear select is shown

Suzuki jimny 2019 is an option

We have a tucsson 2017 for the past 2 years and it has been flawless at 23000 km

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Originally Posted by mart broad

We have the amg line premium plus it has sensors,camera,sunroof folding mirrors , keyless entry and memory seats.
The sensors are now on the dashboard above where the gear select is shown

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Yes, the AMG Line is the body kit and the Premium Plus are the toys - memory seats, sun roof etc.

In laws just bought the XC60 and the memory seats there only need to be pushed once, not held like on the Merc which is a bit lame. Much better infotainment on the Volvo.

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Originally Posted by wileeeeeey

Night edition. I think it's job is to look amazing but have no toys. They don't have folding mirrors either.

Smart choice is usually Sport trim with Premium Plus pack.

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Incorrect. We also have night edition and have the folding mirrors and sensors... That night pack just blacks out the shiny bits! And adds some black to the wheels. I will look at the configurator now to try to understand it! Don't want to make that mistake next time around!

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Originally Posted by wileeeeeey

Night edition. I think it's job is to look amazing but have no toys. They don't have folding mirrors either.

Smart choice is usually Sport trim with Premium Plus pack.

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I think you mean 'Urban Edition'. The UE has the night pack which is purely cosmetic and is also available on other glc models.

Definitely looks like a no cost box on the AMG Line version. Just noticed they have a face-lifted model now with new lights, etc!

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Originally Posted by beechcustom

I think you mean 'Urban Edition'. The UE has the night pack which is purely cosmetic and is also available on other glc models.

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This. Ours is the Urban Edition (poverty spec) and doesn’t come with folding mirrors or sensors but I never liked them anyway. It doesn’t have memory seats either but I’ve never had them so don’t miss them.

It’s got most everything else and with no chrome and 20” wheels, it does look good!* Ours is in metallic grey but I’ve seen them in both black and white and they still look good*

*in relative terms, I don’t particularly like SUVs but the wife loves them.

You are all correct. I was confusing night with urban. Can't imagine having a car that size without sensors at the least but ideally 360 cameras. 360 cameras on the Volvos are incredible and better than nothing on our GLC.

We had a Lexus UX as a hire car for a few days and it was very nice indeed.

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Originally Posted by Dave+63

This. Ours is the Urban Edition (poverty spec) and doesn’t come with folding mirrors or sensors but I never liked them anyway. It doesn’t have memory seats either but I’ve never had them so don’t miss them.

It’s got most everything else and with no chrome and 20” wheels, it does look good!* Ours is in metallic grey but I’ve seen them in both black and white and they still look good*

*in relative terms, I don’t particularly like SUVs but the wife loves them.

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I'm only planning to be in it for 6 months anyway until the new 3 series Touring start coming through but I will miss parking sensors. Even though the X3 list is much more than the GLC, I'm actually paying quite a bit more per month for the GLC than the X3 hence my comparing the spec. It's more money for less toys in my situation. No drama though, I'm starting to really warm to it and it's a change from what I had before.

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Originally Posted by thegoat

Not me , but my best mate bought a GLC . I know it was one of the higher end models but I can’t confirm which one because it’s been at Mercedes more than at his house. He has had no end of problems with it.
Windows and sunroof opening whilst parked up , alarm going off overnight for no reason but it got too much when the tailgate opened whilst driving back from Lyme Park on the A6 with his granddaughter in the back .
He had a Mercedes technician out numerous times who admitted he was baffled and it was “ quite common”
I haven’t spoken to him for a week or two but I darent mention the car . He’s threatened to drive it through the showroom window. 
To cap it all, Mercedes have been less than helpful to put it mildly. Last I heard it was in the hands of his solicitor.
Certainly put me off them anyway .

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Update on this .
The car was returned from Mercedes having been fitted with a tracker type device to monitor the unforeseen occurrences. All went well for a week or two until his CCTV recorded the sunroof opening at 1.40 am on a Thursday morning.
He has had the car for just under 12 months of which 6 have been at the garage whilst he has had a courtesy car well below his spec. The manager of the branch has apparently finally escalated the problem to Germany with a hope to resolve the issue.

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Originally Posted by thegoat

Update on this .
The car was returned from Mercedes having been fitted with a tracker type device to monitor the unforeseen occurrences. All went well for a week or two until his CCTV recorded the sunroof opening at 1.40 am on a Thursday morning.
He has had the car for just under 12 months of which 6 have been at the garage whilst he has had a courtesy car well below his spec. The manager of the branch has apparently finally escalated the problem to Germany with a hope to resolve the issue.

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Things like that really get on my nerves. If the car is playing up to that extent, they should just replace the car with a new one and send the old one back for testing (or whatever).

Leaving someone (who bought a brand new car) with the same ongoing fault after 12 months is a farce.

Honda CR-V. It never, never fails. Just put fuel in and go. It's large, quiet and has a big boot.

Having said that... ours (the previous model) has the now obsolete 2.2 diesel. Honda has replaced that with the 150 hp, 1500 cc turbo petrol engine from the Civic. After my experience with the Kia Sportage and its 1600cc 136hp engine last week, I'm not completely convinced that a large car should have a lawnmower motor for an engine...

I have driven the hybrid version of the CR-V. A good drive, but not when you're hauling a trailer!

M

Another happy X1 sport owner. I should have gone for the Auto, apart from that it's been a great family car. I've had Mini/BMWs for my last 5 cars and can't look beyond the brand really. Might go for an X3 next.

I've recently changed to a Touareg. Great to drive (259BHP) and it doesn't feel top-heavy like some SUVs I've driven. Don't know whether it's a plus or not but the Cayenne shares 85% of the parts of a Touareg.

Eddie

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Originally Posted by swanbourne

I've recently changed to a Touareg. Great to drive (259BHP) and it doesn't feel top-heavy like some SUVs I've driven. Don't know whether it's a plus or not but the Cayenne shares 85% of the parts of a Touareg.

Eddie

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I've heard they are nice but might be a little bit bigger than we need. I'll check the size.

Thought about a MINI Countryman? I have a Cooper S and it’s been great: compact but roomy inside, versatile space, very acceptable performance from the S.

Downsides are:
1. The ride is crashy on the standard runflats but having ditched those it’s much improved;

2. Fuel tank always seems a little small - c. 320 miles is about the realistic maximum

3. It has the typically half-baked phone integration that BMW seem to specialise in

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Originally Posted by tertius

Thought about a MINI Countryman? I have a Cooper S and it’s been great: compact but roomy inside, versatile space, very acceptable performance from the S.

Downsides are:
1. The ride is crashy on the standard runflats but having ditched those it’s much improved;

2. Fuel tank always seems a little small - c. 320 miles is about the realistic maximum

3. It has the typically half-baked phone integration that BMW seem to specialise in

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Would be a bit small I think, also too low as we prefer a slightly higher car if possible.

Looked at the 4x4 mini and ruled it out due to the dash and the fact it was the narrowest car we sat in Inc the X1. Our arms were nearly touching even though the X1 is on the Countryman platform.

SWMBO is looking to replace her Prius and has decided on either a Rav 4 or Lexus UX/NX. Why?

Personally I hope she goes for the Lexus NX 200t - with the 2lt Turbo engine, rather than the 300h which has the 2.4 engine.

I’m looking at new small - ish SUV’s now our XC60 is due for changing, and I keep coming back to the Tiguan. All specs get all the safety features as standard (which add quite a bit to the BMW X1 ) and the cabin - whilst not feeling quite as posh as some - has loads of room and a very logical layout. I’ll probably just get the 148hp 2 litre tdi as the XC60 has lots of grunt but I hate how much diesel it guzzles. Plus the boot is a decent square shape, in fact the ‘Match’ spec seems to come with everything I’d need. Quite fancy the R spec but in reality body kits and 20 inch alloys might be vulnerable when bumping through Norfolk country lanes. As an aside, having tested the BMW X1 and X2, can’t understand the point of the X2 at all - I’m 6’2’’ and the low roof makes it so claustrophobic whereas I could wear a top hat in the X1!


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Originally Posted by RobDad

I’m looking at new small - ish SUV’s now our XC60 is due for changing, and I keep coming back to the Tiguan. All specs get all the safety features as standard (which add quite a bit to the BMW X1 ) and the cabin - whilst not feeling quite as posh as some - has loads of room and a very logical layout. I’ll probably just get the 148hp 2 litre tdi as the XC60 has lots of grunt but I hate how much diesel it guzzles. Plus the boot is a decent square shape, in fact the ‘Match’ spec seems to come with everything I’d need. Quite fancy the R spec but in reality body kits and 20 inch alloys might be vulnerable when bumping through Norfolk country lanes. As an aside, having tested the BMW X1 and X2, can’t understand the point of the X2 at all - I’m 6’2’’ and the low roof makes it so claustrophobic whereas I could wear a top hat in the X1!


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I’ve just leased my wife a Tiguan and she absolutely loves it. It’s an automatic 150 4motion so not the top spec but has everything she wants. One of my Directors at work has leased the R line petrol version and have to say it’s a lot of kit for the money. Very impressed.

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Originally Posted by Devonian

I’ve just leased my wife a Tiguan and she absolutely loves it. It’s an automatic 150 4motion so not the top spec but has everything she wants. One of my Directors at work has leased the R line petrol version and have to say it’s a lot of kit for the money. Very impressed.

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I have the same one myself which is due to go back next month. Fantastic bit of kit. Was thinking of getting another but the biturbo version but went with something else in the end.

Currently on tucsson hyundai
Flawless for two years

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Originally Posted by cinnabull

I had a GLC Coupe from new, kept it 2 years and just got rid. It was the 220d AMG version with the Premium Plus pack on it.

Very comfy, quiet, good on fuel (45 mpg average) and lots of space and nice toys. It did spend 3 months off the road though. As a new model it had teething problems, but mine had an ecu fault and Merc UK couldnt fix it. They had to send all the ecu data to Germany where a new software update was developed. I did of course get a loan car for this period. Also on these GLC models, there is a strange issue with the front wheels ‘crabbing’ when turning slowly on full lock. Google it, its a known and very common fault. Mercedes wont concede its incorrect steering geometry, but along with many others they changed all 4 tyres for free after 12 months. Go figure. Would I have another, probably not.

Stuart


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A couple of ours in western Oz had this crabbing problem last year and the dealers were not very helpful.

VW Golf with engine cut out "characteristics"

Toyota diesels now playing up as well (Oz)

Lexus have CVT gearboxes - christ there is only BMW left (and I'm sure that is only because I haven't heard of a problem vehicle)

I don't know what I'm going to venture into when I replace my lexus. Sure as hell it's going to be a demostrator though.

Please let us know what you decide on Oaky.

B

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Originally Posted by Brian

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I don't know what I'm going to venture into when I replace my lexus.

Please let us know what you decide on Oaky.

B

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At the moment it's between the Mercedes GLC AMG300D, the new Evoque or another Jaguar E-Pace. Will have to decide soon!

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Originally Posted by oldoakknives

At the moment it's between the Mercedes GLC AMG300D, the new Evoque or another Jaguar E-Pace. Will have to decide soon!

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glc is the best bet out of the 3

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Originally Posted by swanbourne

I've recently changed to a Touareg. Great to drive (259BHP) and it doesn't feel top-heavy like some SUVs I've driven. Don't know whether it's a plus or not but the Cayenne shares 85% of the parts of a Touareg.

Eddie

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Keep us updated with your experience.

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Originally Posted by swanbourne

I've recently changed to a Touareg. Great to drive (259BHP) and it doesn't feel top-heavy like some SUVs I've driven. Don't know whether it's a plus or not but the Cayenne shares 85% of the parts of a Touareg.

Eddie

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I’ve had a Touareg 3.0Tdi R-Line Plus for the past two years from new. It has been 100% faultless in the 20,000 miles I’ve done in it.

Very well built and capable, but thirsty. The real world mpg (appx 23) is the only real downside.

It goes in a couple of weeks to be replaced by a GLC Coupe 300d AMG Premium Plus. We’ll see if that does as well.

Our GLC220d is just under 12 months old and returns an average of 45mpg over the last 15,000 miles.

It was in yesterday for a new driver’s window switch which broke a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, it’s been faultless so far.

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana

I’ve had a Touareg 3.0Tdi R-Line Plus for the past two years from new. It has been 100% faultless in the 20,000 miles I’ve done in it.

Very well built and capable, but thirsty. The real world mpg (appx 23) is the only real downside.

It goes in a couple of weeks to be replaced by a GLC Coupe 300d AMG Premium Plus. We’ll see if that does as well.

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Same car for me, my lease goes back in March, can’t fault the car one bit, never had one issue.
Did you get a decent deal on the GLC?
Really struggling to get a decent deal at the moment.


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There’s a reason for that matey (if you’re talking leasing anyway).

I’ve taken this from the top gear site

‘It battles (deep breath) the Alfa Romeo Stelvio, BMW X3, Audi Q5, Porsche Macan, Lexus NX and Land Rover Discovery Sport.’ You can add the Velar and a couple of offerings from Volvo to this and all, without exception, have better projected residuals.

Not saying the Merc is a bad car, look at the testimony above, but maybe a bit tired looking and certainly not as cool and it’s style that drives this segment.

Also, consider that the Tesla (capital value double some of the above) will be available from April at only maybe one or two hundred pounds more a month via a salsac lease due to changes in the BiK treatment...


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I went for the GLC coupe - I know it isn’t quite as practical, but it’s s lot better looking and the spec is high - updated interior is very nice indeed and the tech is impressive.

The 300d is pretty quick and not too thirsty either.

I tried to get an XC60 T8, but there’s none available. Stelvio just doesn’t feel premium- I’ve driven the 280, Audi a bit bland and there are so many of them about, considered Velar but I have huge concerns over reliability, Discovery Sports are crap in pretty much every way in my view. Apart from the badge they have little to recommend them. F-Pace ok, but a bit old tech now. BMW just leave me cold, and while the Lexus is nice it’s rather old hybrid tech.

All in my opinion of course. And besides, I’ve had almost all the brands above and fancy a bit of a change.

Oh, and I got 9+23, 10k, fully maintained for £443 per month.

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Originally Posted by Dave+63

Our GLC220d is just under 12 months old and returns an average of 45mpg over the last 15,000 miles.

It was in yesterday for a new driver’s window switch which broke a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, it’s been faultless so far.

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Just goes to show how the driving conditions make a HUGE difference. Ours is a 250d 2 year old. Average over 27k miles is c. 32mpg! Driven mostly around town.

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Originally Posted by Ellgal

There’s a reason for that matey (if you’re talking leasing anyway).

I’ve taken this from the top gear site

‘It battles (deep breath) the Alfa Romeo Stelvio, BMW X3, Audi Q5, Porsche Macan, Lexus NX and Land Rover Discovery Sport.’ You can add the Velar and a couple of offerings from Volvo to this and all, without exception, have better projected residuals.

Not saying the Merc is a bad car, look at the testimony above, but maybe a bit tired looking and certainly not as cool and it’s style that drives this segment.

Also, consider that the Tesla (capital value double some of the above) will be available from April at only maybe one or two hundred pounds more a month via a salsac lease due to changes in the BiK treatment...


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GLC (esp post facelift) is a more handsome car than the X3 and Q5, also better specced in std form. The macan is a lot more expensive and i wouldnt have the disco sport and NX as competitors.

The velar and f pace are pricier.

Skoda Karoq or the Kodiak if you want a bigger'un.

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Originally Posted by cyrusir

GLC (esp post facelift) is a more handsome car than the X3 and Q5, also better specced in std form. The macan is a lot more expensive and i wouldnt have the disco sport and NX as competitors.

The velar and f pace are pricier.

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I do like the glc a lot but the boot isn't amazing and when I see an X3 I just know it's better to drive although glc has the better interior. Can't have everything I guess.

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Originally Posted by Passenger

Skoda Karoq or the Kodiak if you want a bigger'un.

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Can get a karoq for the same price as a Kodiak but to get a karoq with 360 cameras you need to pay another 1.2k and wait for a factory order. We went for a 3 gear old glc in the end and don't regret it.

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Originally Posted by wileeeeeey

I do like the glc a lot but the boot isn't amazing

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is 550 litres not the same or bigger than most competitors?

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Originally Posted by cyrusir

is 550 litres not the same or bigger than most competitors?

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My sister in law has a 2007 honda civic and she can fit more in than us. GLC 500 Vs Civic 485 but hers is a lot more usable. Seats down is a very different sorry but for day to day absolutely no chance. We can fit her buddy and that's it. In the civic the buggy is low down and far in so lots more space for extras after.

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Originally Posted by cyrusir

is 550 litres not the same or bigger than most competitors?

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The X3 is quite a bit bigger. I've been running a 2019 GLC 220d (pre facelift) for 4 months. I came out of a 2018 X3. The GLC is not a bad car. It's certainly more handsome to look at than the X3 and the reversing camera is better. In every other area, the X3 is miles ahead of the GLC. I'll be back to BMW next time.

I'd agree with a Karoq or Kodiaq if you want something bigger. I have the 190PS Sportline 4x4 DSG Karoq at the moment and it drives great with loads of kit, but if you want something a bit more premium, the GLA / Q3 or GLB when it comes out soon would be great :)

At the moment it's coming down to a choice between the AMG300D GLC or another E-pace, probably 240D. The only other thing I want to see is an Evoque with only the upper touch screen leaving the A/C contras etc on switches. Also might depend on trade in prices, they can vary a lot!

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Originally Posted by beechcustom

The X3 is quite a bit bigger. I've been running a 2019 GLC 220d (pre facelift) for 4 months. I came out of a 2018 X3. The GLC is not a bad car. It's certainly more handsome to look at than the X3 and the reversing camera is better. In every other area, the X3 is miles ahead of the GLC. I'll be back to BMW next time.

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https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/b...v/practicality

boots are the same size

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Originally Posted by cyrusir

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/b...v/practicality

boots are the same size

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I load drums and related gear into it every week. There was more room in the X3.

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Originally Posted by beechcustom

I load drums and related gear into it every week. There was more room in the X3.

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The shape of the space can make a big difference as well, depending on what you carry.

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Originally Posted by beechcustom

I load drums and related gear into it every week. There was more room in the X3.

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except there wasn’t , for your use case it might have felt like that but anywhere you look they have the same measured boot space

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Originally Posted by oldoakknives

The shape of the space can make a big difference as well, depending on what you carry.

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Fair point. My 40" Hardware Case (aka 'the coffin') was easier to get in the X3 than the GLC. There was noticeably more space either side of the case when loaded lengthwise compared to the GLC. Practical space, at least in my case, was slightly better in the X3.

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Originally Posted by beechcustom

Fair point. My 40" Hardware Case (aka 'the coffin') was easier to get in the X3 than the GLC. There was noticeably more space either side of the case when loaded lengthwise compared to the GLC. Practical space, at least in my case, was slightly better in the X3.

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You have experience in both cars, they don't. I'd just ignore it. Pointless. It's like arguing over how many mm a watch is. Yes something might be 42mm but it's entirely normal and possible that the same watch could wear more like a 39mm or 40mm. You can't just go on the car website and bark out specs, it's silly.

As mentioned I also have a glc and sure with seats down the boot is great but as a normal boot it's pathetic considering the size of the car.