[QUOTE]Max V all had a much easier ride,[/QUOTE]
Max and his dad are -what you'll call in English- Travellers. Grandpa Francois (Frans) used to run a bar and an ice cream parlour.
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[QUOTE]Max V all had a much easier ride,[/QUOTE]
Max and his dad are -what you'll call in English- Travellers. Grandpa Francois (Frans) used to run a bar and an ice cream parlour.
Menno
Despite his father being a former champion, Damon Hill most certainly did not have an easy ride. By the time he reached adolescence the money had long gone. He was working as a motorcycle courier to fund his motorcycle racing at the start of his career.
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Sky show only "classic" races from the past so they're bound to be the selected best from that era. There's also been some great (selected) races in the past few seasons too despite Mecedes dominance.
I stopped watching F1 in the early 2000s because the racing was so poor. Ferrari's dominance was much worse than Mercedes because they did everything to ensure only Schumacher could win.
There is a tendency to look back on past f1 eras with rose tinted glasses. That said F1 is definitely in crisis this season and even I'm losing interest.
They have to sort out the problem of overtaking. It's been moaned about in F1 as long as I can remember but I don't recall it ever being this bad. So many races either become a train of cars 2 seconds apart or a DRS fest.
A complete overhaul is needed of regulations and structure for distribution of prize money.
Also I think prize money should be distributed based only on the finishing championship position of the lowest points scoring driver in each team.
That way it encourages teams to employ 2 competitive drivers who will hopefully race each other. It should also discourage the use of uncompetitive pay drivers like Stroll.
I can not fathom why Stroll is used as an example so frequently. He's done more than enough to show he deserves to be in f1, certainly Kubica and Grosjean have had worse seasons so far.
If he can sort his qualifying out, he'll be competitive with Perez, and no one would question that Perez is good enough.
Reading Brawn's comments on Schumacher is interesting. He had a very strange perspective of his own behaviour in the car.
After the Villeneuve incident, he came into the pits shouting and swearing about Villeneuve driving into him, it was only when the Ferrari crew showed him the replay that he calmed and could see he'd been at fault.
He did indeed, however he still afforded to race and also in 1986 managed to borrow £100,000 to continue racing. Which was the same year my wife and I managed to borrow £42K (duel income no kids) to buy our first house. Not bad for a bloke riding a motor bike!!!
Just because he worked as a motor bike courier, does not mean he was on his uppers. Plus he was still living in Hampstead at the time. Being the son of Graham Hill also helped.
[QUOTE=thieuster;5134610]Max's dad "Jos the Boss", may indeed come from humble stock, but Jos was ex-F1 driver, ex-LMP driver, ex-Dutch Champ, etc, with many wins under his belt and I imagine he earned quite a few quid along the way, either via race wins or via sponsorship deals. He did drive for both Porsche and Aston Martin.Quote:
Max V all had a much easier ride,[/QUOTE]
Max and his dad are -what you'll call in English- Travellers. Grandpa Francois (Frans) used to run a bar and an ice cream parlour.
Menno
He does however sound a rather unpleasent chap. Seems he likes to beat up women. What a prince!
[QUOTE=WarrenVrs;5134827]Reading Brawn's comments on Schumacher is interesting. He had a very strange perspective of his own behaviour in the car
Do you have a link, would like to read that
[QUOTE=mav112;5135224]Can't remember, but Brawn talks about it here, 48mins in
https://youtu.be/t15tKnsUJrk
[QUOTE=WarrenVrs;5135239]Ok cheers
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Austria's Red Bull Ring, set amongst the valleys of Styria, is 700m above sea level and is 2nd in altitude behind Mexico at 2285m. It's also predicted to be a bit of a scorcher on race day. So what? Well, given the combination of the two, this could prove to be a test for each team yet to be experienced so far this season.
The higher the altitude, the thinner the air. The thinner the air, the more critical the cooling. The higher the ambient temperatures... Well, you get the picture. Expect each team to come up with their own solutions to manage the airflow over, under, around and through their cars in order to keep brakes and power units in their respective ideal operating windows.
There's another component that needs managing as well, one that is extremely sensitive to temperature - the tyres. For this season Pirelli amended their range of tyres, going from 7 different slick compounds to 5, each with a slightly thinner "tread" depth of those of last year. The reason for this thinner gauge rubber was to help to prevent blistering and potential tyre failures as a result, unfortunately the side effect is that it can be trickier to get the tyres up to, and then maintain, operating temperature. The FIA will be holding a meeting with the teams tomorrow morning to discuss a potential switch back to the 2018 spec gauge after the Summer break, most teams are for the idea with 2 against; Mercedes and McLaren. Let's not forget that those 4 rings of rubber are the most important components of each car, they are the final arbiter of performance. The team that extracts the most from them will have the fastest car with aspects such as suspension design, centre of gravity, wheelbase and so on all playing their part as well as, quite simply, how each driver controls their car. Almost forgot... we're not talking millimetres of difference here in depth, there's only 0.4mm between '18 and '19 spec tyres.
Podium finishers? Ferrari could be strong here, it's a tight and short circuit that may suit their chassis and superior PU. Would you bet against those Silver Arrows, though? No, neither would I. It'll be as good as a home GP for Max, his teammate will need to bounce back from a very lacklustre French GP, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we'll see orange and blue up there again as well. A team that really needs a boost is Haas, Kevin Magnussen's gut is telling him that they'll do well, apparently.
Well done Ferrari, but I’m betting an own goal with the soft tyres, they will be putting while the rest of the field goes through, LH penalty is a bit of a joke on that track, especially as in the last two minutes of qualy most of the field were impeding each other and nothing was done.
Go Leclerc!
With Lewis' grid penalty demoting him to 5th tomorrow could be a cracker. I'd usually be watching live however I'm at Brands Hatch tomorrow, I'll be doing my best to avoid all media.
Well it's set up nicely for the race tomorrow, could be a really good one. Won't be watching it until the evening though as I refuse to pay for Sky. So it'll be MotoGP from Assen for me tomorrow lunchtime and trying to avoid hearing the result in the afternoon. I'm intrigued to find out how Ferrari will blow it for Le Clerc this time!
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The cynical amongst us might think that the LH penalty was engineered to give us a cracking race. Hopefully LH will do Bottas off the line (Perhaps by design), then a tussle before overtaking MV on an undercut, before going after Lecerc. Vettel should get up to 5th.
Lewis accepted the penalty in good spirit (not the whiny Vettel way) and deep down I think he is looking forward to actually doing some racing.
Lewis was late to be told, or realise, that KR was upon him and it was a clumsy 'block' that could have easily been avoided. The penalty is justified imo. Lewis can't get through any season without causing a bit of drama now and then! Hopefully, the slightly shaken up grid will provide for an exciting race, especially with the contra tyre choices.
Impeding is a good example of a rule that needs to be changed. If the driver you impeded gets through to the next quality session anyway, then no harm done.
For the avoidance of doubt here is a link to the Provisional Starting Grid (Amended), ie after the grid penalties have been applied.
The 'Official Starting Grid' has yet to be published.
Nope. See the grid. It's the way penalties are applied. They are done in order they're received (magnussen first Hamilton next). The field isn't bunched up to fill the gaps, until all penalties applied.
The mistake you're making, is thinking that Norris is moved forward once the space in front (the magnussen 5th) as soon as magnussen goes back. He isn't. Magnussen is moved back, vacating 5th. Hamilton is then moved into 5th, with Norris still 6th. The entire top ten (bar leclerc) is moved forward one position to fill the now vacant 2nd. Thus Hamilton goes from 5th to 4th, Norris 6th to 5th.
Complicated, but that's how it's done.
I thought Lando was 4th due to reading this.(last paragraph)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...47a632124e.jpg
Yeah, it seems I got it wrong, however in my defense virtually every F1 related website couldn't agree if Lewis was to start 4th ot 5th either.
I wonder if now the FIA have tried to make it interesting, if we have s real race, or if Ferrari have already screwed there drivers
56 laps now and things are looking good for Verstappen.
What someone said: things look very different when the party-mode during qualifying isn't working for Ferrari and Mercedes. Then, RB/Honda is fast enough for overtaking during the race itself.
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Sorry still another push to pass win, I’m becoming very disengaged with F1
And the rules say a Cars width
I have to wonder how many laps of the track his team owns he has done in other cars, a bit like Ferrari
Gutted for Leclerc, but what a drive by Max.
The tears of the Honda engineer are really something. What was the last victory of a Honda-engined F1 car?
Edit: found it! Jenson Button 2006!
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That was a cracker. Can see max getting penalised unfortunately.
A bit gutted for Leclerc but a great drive from Max and a much better advert for F1. On another note, how much of a disappointment is Gasly proving to be? There's no way he'll be in that seat next season and I'm doubting if he'll even be in it for the last few races of this season.
Not really. Red Bull have the best chassis on the grid. They have done for years. Their week point has always (in the hybrid era) been the power unit.
McLaren are a solid 4th in the constructors with more than double the points of the other Honda engine team, Torro Rosso.
As I said, that’ll be a penalty then, 5 seconds
As Verstapen says; why bother at all if you cannot overtake.
Even Ferrari themselves lament that the current rules just about only allow for clean DRS overtakes but that rules are rules.
Green table the winner of the second GP in a row is like shooting a dead horse.
The penalty tweeted by journos is apparently fake. But Ferrari are apparently celebrating in their garage. So who knows.
Without further comment...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L42H4vkbHYc
Outcome (BBC link):
No further action on Verstappen/Leclerc. The stewards "did not consider that either driver was wholly or predominantly to blame for the incident. We consider that this is a racing incident".
MV keeps the win.
Wrong decision imo, but there ya go.
* You just pipped me Pickle lol
Common sense prevailed. Best race of the season so far
About to watch highlights on C4 as I don’t have Sky but having watched the clip on the Sky website I think that was the wrong decision.
It appeared that Verstappen forced Leclerc completely off circuit on the overtake which would normally invoke a penalty
It took an inordinately long time to make a decision which never augurs well. Will be interested to see if Ferrari appeal this decision.