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Over 100 charges brought by the premier league against City.
Look forward to hearing Mr Goats explanation.
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Suspect the city lawyers will deal with it not Goat. The last one was overturned by CAS. Think await the process.
Of course Chelsea will have been squeaky clean for the abromavitch years and the recent modest spending
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Speaking as a City fan the UEFA case laid out similar charges so, given the PL investigation covered the same period, this comes as no surprise.
Ironically for Ivan, City have generated more independent sponsors this past few years as a result of their success, although they still do have too many that are linked to Mansoor and Abu Dhabi. All of these charges are historic. How squeaky clean City have been since the CAS ruling remains to be seen but if they’ve continued to abuse the rules they deserve everything that comes their way.
Mansoor is so heavily invested in City and through City Football Group that I don’t see him walking away. If he has any sense he’d take a less aggressive approach than he did with UEFA and try to reach an agreement.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see relegation forced on City.
Please don’t be daft. You actually believe City now generate the most money in global football ?
Come on, they cook the books everyone knows it.
To be clear I don’t even believe in FFP, if someone wants to spend their money let them.
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Was the CAS ruling not based on a technicality? Time elapsed or something?
It wasn't overturned, instead City's lawyers had UEFA tied up for so long that the process ran out of time but there was no exoneration.
Looking at the charge one offence in particular repeats itself over and over again which would indicate that the PL think they have a very strong case.
In terms of penalties- no point giving a £100m fine or whatever as that's nothing - the charges relate to 10 years of supposed financial doping so I'd imagine the consequences should be more along the lines of which division will City be playing in next year rather than anything less than that.
PSG must also be bricking themselves assuming the French FA are conducting something similar.
UEFA have announced that they will NOT strip City of their Champions League titles.....
Cheeky bid for Haaland anybody? [emoji56]
Keep smoking your magic mushrooms. The lawyers will keep this going for years. No chance City will be anywhere other than the premiership next season. Whether they will make top 4 is another debate after that rubbish yesterday
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Despite anybody's protestations, everyone knows they've been doing it for a decade or more. They've spent money and built teams that cannot possibly be within their means. If it were they'd be generating more income than any other club on the planet. The FA need to come down very hard on them to prevent others, like Newcastle and Chelsea, doing it too.
It would be refreshing if City fans just held their hands up to a fair cop because not doing so is embarrassing. Any monetary fine is meaningless so they'll have to consider sanctions such as several years of a transfer embargo, points deduction or relegation. Sport is built on competition and they've brought that into disrepute. They can't take any sanction to CAS so the FA can make a massive statement here if they have the balls to do it....which they consistently haven't had.
Not hitting them hard brings the potential for other clubs taking legal action for loss of revenue in final EPL standings and European qualification.
I fear though that the lawyers will spin it out for years in the hope that it all goes away.
Be interesting to see what comes of it, sadly I do g think it will be much.
Relegation is what you need. If you want to be the best, and you want to cheat the rest, huh huh, relegaaaaaation is what you neeeeed. If you wannabe a rule breaker.
At least I’ll be able to enjoy my Sunday rounds of golf without worrying about 4.30 kick offs.
I've spent the morning looking into this.
The general feeling is that if this is proven City will be relegated. I've no idea how likely that is, though the allegations look damning.
There is no CAS appeal this time, because of PL rules.
Interestingly it can't be reversed like UEFA's was anyway as there's no time limit under which breaches of rules can be proven and punished.
The details around Mancini's pay and Kolo Toure's agent are incredible. Those are two of any number we don't yet know about.
You have to question every achievement of City's over the last decade now. They simply wouldn't have created the same team if they didn't have ways to circumvent spending rules. If innocent, they would have sent the relevant documents.
My team, Watford, were among those most damaged - beaten by City by the record largest FA Cup final defeat in 2019 as we went for our first ever trophy. We always knew City were changing the landscape with their cash.
At the time we had to assume no rules had been broken.
Now the feelings of anger rise.
They appear to have cheated to prevent me and my fellow supporters having our greatest ever day as fans.
Waiting with baited breath to see anything similar with Aguero
One of the best players I've ever seen, would have walked into any team in the world and been winning Champion's Leagues but elected to stay with City on about 150-200k a week?
Sorry, not having it, I've been saying it for years
In City’s defence here FFP was brought in by the big boys to secure themselves at the top table.
I don’t see any issue with an owner buying a club and splashing as much cash as they want. The money moves round the game eventually anyway.
Torres went to Chelsea for 60m, Carrol went to Liverpool for 30, Newcastle sign Demba Ba.
The money just moves round the game.
The problem is the rules either enforce them or get rid of the rules and let people spend.
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Some transfer news just in -
Man City looking to sign William Nimmo Smith (known for his 'no financial advantage' ruling) & Sandy Bryson (best known for 'imperfectly registered, but eligible) from Scotland...
I spent the morning looking into this.
The general feeling is that if this is proven City will be relegated. I've no idea how likely that is, though the allegations look damning.
There is no CAS appeal this time, because of PL rules.
Interestingly it can't be reversed like UEFA's was anyway as there's no time limit under which breaches of rules can be proven and punished.
The details around Mancini's pay and Kolo Toure's agent are incredible. Those are two of any number we don't yet know about.
You have to question every achievement of City's over the last decade now. They simply wouldn't have created the same team if they didn't have ways to circumvent spending rules. If innocent, they would have sent the relevant documents.
My team, Watford, were among those most damaged - beaten by City by the record largest FA Cup final defeat in 2019 as we went for our first ever trophy. We always knew City were changing the landscape with their cash.
At the time we had to assume no rules had been broken.
Now the feelings of anger rise.
They appear to have cheated to prevent me and my fellow supporters having our greatest ever day as fans.
Bizarre.
Our in house Manc gob on a stick has been online since the announcement this morning but has nothing to say on the matter !?
Marching on without Marsch now, I hope Lampard isn’t shortlisted to replace him!
Bizarre timing. We let him bring in lots of new players (including our biggest ever signing) during the transfer window, then sack him before he's had any chance to integrate them into the squad.
I was vaguely optimistic that we might stay up under Marsch, but I can't see anything other than relegation now regardless of who they bring in to replace him (and there isn't exactly a huge amount of managerial talent out there looking for a job right now).
Do we really need the personal insults on this thread? Surely a discussion can happen without name calling? Just my opinion.
Hopefully the book is thrown at city , doping is doping be it peds, financial or otherwise. You can’t have a framework and have one team / nation openly flouting it.
When Mancini signed his £1.45m contract with City he also signed another contract at the same time as an adviser to a club in Abu Dhabi worth £1.75m.
https://www.spiegel.de/international...a-1236346.html
That’s from 2018. Is it confirmed this is one of the 100 breaches?
Hard to know how big the announcement today is. Usually these things fizzle out. Maybe this time it won’t. Feels different.
Maybe Pep knew this was coming out soon his behaviour / selections and team performances recently.
As Gary Neville said just yesterday, something isn’t right at City. Looks like that was correct. Something isn’t right.
Apparently there is a second separate investigation into the more recent seasons. Surprised the goat hasn’t been here to front up, he has been adamant that everything was being done by the book.
The breaches being investigated go back to 2009.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
Just a suggestion, but let's lay off the Goat, poor man has a lot to deal with last few days.
He has only done what any football fan would do in defending his team and he may actually believe all is above board. Seems harsh to single him out.
It’s 115 breaches in total spread across 2009 to 2023 according the an article in the Times.
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That would make no sense whatsoever, doesn’t mean it won’t happen!
Manager always gets the blame, but he wasn’t the one who gave a stupid free kick away that lead to the Forest goal, he wasn’t the one he headed the ball weakly, he wasn’t the one who failed to mark the player on the edge of the box........Ayling and Struik were totally at fault for that goal and that’s why Leeds lost.
I don’t take football too seriously but yesterday’s debacle had me ranting at the TV, Leeds should’ve won that game and it’s a hard defeat to accept against a poor Forest side that offered little going forward.
I believe the wrongdoings are broken down into financial irregularities until 2018 and then failure to cooperate beyond that.
I’m hearing that this could drag on for more than a year. I think any City fan would want this over and done with asap so that the club can move on whatever the outcome.
Only game I’ve missed watching this season was Spurs yesterday as I was out. After today, my appetite for the rest of the season has diminished significantly. I’m under no illusion that the club engaged in means to pump as much money into the club as possible to break into the big time. If they continued to do so after they knew they were under investigation then they’re bloody idiots and deserve what’s due.
It will never happen, but trophies aside could other clubs sue? Lost prize money, transfer deals etc.
It’s sad but it’s no longer a sport
All previous coaching staff banned from the PL for 10 years…..
It’s genuinely sad for Liverpool. 97 points one season and 92 last year and still finished 2nd to City !
Just puts into perspective how good Liverpool have been the last few years.
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