Fed up waiting for the ceramic Pepsi GMT, decision made and an arrival! Pics

Last year when the Rolex Pepsi on Jubilee was released I was so excited, thought it looked brilliant so dashed to get on the waiting list (3 places)

I’ve thought about consolidating down to 4 watches, my Hulk, with the ceramic GMT plus something gold or two-tone and a grab and go Quartz.

I contacted all 3 yesterday (it’s exactly a year today) only to be told “3yrs” (from a dealer who said 2-3 years a year ago!) and “we’ve closed the book” by another (even though I was told/lied to that I was 6th on the list a year ago...)

The third said “I’ll get someone to call you back”

Bugger it, I don’t think it will ever come but we’ll see!

In the meantime i’m committed to Reducing and consolidating my collection based on lack of wear and sold this week my Rolex 1601 Datejust which I’ve owned for a few years and loved, plus my Monaco.

They’ve both been replaced by this:-

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I went to Milton’s Liverpool yesterday to try it and left a deposit to reserve it until payday.

I know it’s not everyone’s taste, but I love the two tone and blue iridescent dial.

I’ve got a feeling i’ll Be culling some more soon if I wear this anywhere near as much as the 16710!

Lovely watch!

It’s weird, I’ve never liked two tone gold watches before, then six months ago I reached 50 and now I love em. The Rolex Sub / GMT ones and Seamaster sedna gold and black ones in particular....I can’t explain the sudden change in taste

Glad you’ve found a Rolex you’re going to love rather than sit on a waiting list indefinitely....enjoy


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Lovely watch!

It’s weird, I’ve never liked two tone gold watches before, then six months ago I reached 50 and now I love em. The Rolex Sub / GMT ones and Seamaster sedna gold and black ones in particular....I can’t explain the sudden change in taste

Glad you’ve found a Rolex you’re going to love rather than sit on a waiting list indefinitely....enjoy


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Haha. "All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does, and that is his." Perhaps only tangentially apposite but, nurture or nature, who knows, it does seem our tastes all start to follow the same inevitable arc. Found myself considering a checked, peaked cap in C&A the other day - last time on my radar was when sported by my grandfather circa 1974. Next up, slip on shoes with 'comfortable' soles ...

Great choice. I've also given up with the wait for a Pepsi. Hoping to get the. Ew anniversary speedy instead. Fingers and everything else crossed.

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Haha. "All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does, and that is his." Perhaps only tangentially apposite but, nurture or nature, who knows, it does seem our tastes all start to follow the same inevitable arc. Found myself considering a checked, peaked cap in C&A the other day - last time on my radar was when sported by my grandfather circa 1974. Next up, slip on shoes with 'comfortable' soles ...

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Funny, I nearly bought a cap the other day.....draw the line at comfortable slip ons though


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I'm not convinced that most ADs even maintain the lists that they kid you and I we are on. I'm sure some localised dealers are more honest, but I went on the Daytona list years ago and not a sniff. Tried several times to find out how I am doing on the list, a load of waffle back with no direct answer, head office and all that guff.

Then I hear stories from people on here about that branch receiving Daytonas and how they are sold - and it certainly bears no relationship to the next guy on the list.

I gave up in the end, but confidently guarantee that I will never receive a call...

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I'm not convinced that most ADs even maintain the lists that they kid you and I we are on. I'm sure some localised dealers are more honest, but I went on the Daytona list years ago and not a sniff. Tried several times to find out how I am doing on the list, a load of waffle back with no direct answer, head office and all this guff.

Then I hear stories from people on here about that branch receiving Daytona and how they are sold - and it certainly bears no relationship to the next guy on the list.

I gave up in the end, but confidently guarantee that I will never receive a call...

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I think you have a point there. My brother and I went to a main national dealer and placed our names and this list for a Daytona each, black and white face. We sat down; our names and addresses with telephone details were taken; estimates of how many they receive in a year were given; how many names they had above us on the list.

Two years later, I popped in to see how far up the list we'd gone. The sales person said, "What list?"

After an angry exchange of words with the manager, they insisted they don't keep lists and it must have all been in my mind (the implication).

Never again.

You have bought a stunner. Enjoy.

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Then I hear stories from people on here about that branch receiving Daytonas and how they are sold - and it certainly bears no relationship to the next guy on the list.

I gave up in the end, but confidently guarantee that I will never receive a call...

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I went on a list and got a call ...never say never..you never know :devilish: That TT sub is nice BTW.

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Originally Posted by RJM25R

Last year when the Rolex Pepsi on Jubilee was released I was so excited, thought it looked brilliant so dashed to get on the waiting list (3 places)

I’ve thought about consolidating down to 4 watches, my Hulk, with the ceramic GMT plus something gold or two-tone and a grab and go Quartz.

I contacted all 3 yesterday (it’s exactly a year today) only to be told “3yrs” (from a dealer who said 2-3 years a year ago!) and “we’ve closed the book” by another (even though I was told/lied to that I was 6th on the list a year ago...)

The third said “I’ll get someone to call you back”

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I'm still waiting for the call for an SD 50 and that's "my" AD from where I bought the unloved SDc4000 (at full list) a couple of years earlier. It's clear lists are meaningless (for now at least - until the "investors" and profiteers move on to the next big thing). Unlike last year, my AD won't even now entertain anyone ringing up for a sought after watch. If you are interested, you go into the shop.

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Originally Posted by henk

Sadly TTs are one the few Rolex sport models which are readily available due to their unpopularity. They are also hard to sell on and have poor residuals.

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I think that may be a general rule. All rules have exceptions though :eagerness:

The blue on that TT is rather special.

Martyn

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The sales person said, "What list?"

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The only list is the telephone numbers of the grey dealers who give them a kick back.

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Originally Posted by henk

Sadly TTs are one the few Rolex sport models which are readily available due to their unpopularity. They are also hard to sell on and have poor residuals.

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Depends how you look at it. I almost bought a used one a few years ago, if I had it would be worth approx. double the price it was offered at.

I wouldn't call the residual value poor, just not as good as the steel ones that folks fawn over.

Anyhow, why does the 'residual value' have to matter? If you can`t afford the watch to drop in value maybe you can`t afford to buy it in the first place?

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Depends how you look at it. I almost bought a used one a few years ago, if I had it would be worth approx. double the price it was offered at.

I wouldn't call the residual value poor, just not as good as the steel ones that folks fawn over.

Anyhow, why does the 'residual value' have to matter? If you can`t afford the watch to drop in value maybe you can`t afford to buy it in the first place?

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Exactly this. Residuals are great. I stupidly sold my 16713 2 years ago. I now have to add nearly 2k to buy it back....

You’re not the only one who is now considering a TT

As much as I want a SS GMT I will use the TT purchase from an AD as a litmus really to see if it’s worth the wait. I’m not yet looking for a TT Sub as TT CHNR is my likely purchase but whichever AD I get it from I will use for subsequent purchases down the line.
Enjoy your new watch and wear it in good health

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Originally Posted by ColDaspin

Haha. "All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does, and that is his." Perhaps only tangentially apposite but, nurture or nature, who knows, it does seem our tastes all start to follow the same inevitable arc. Found myself considering a checked, peaked cap in C&A the other day - last time on my radar was when sported by my grandfather circa 1974. Next up, slip on shoes with 'comfortable' soles ...

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I recently found myself admiring the Day/Date President in gold … That came like a bolt out of the blue, I can tell yer!

Nice to see a Bluesy, it reminds me of JJ over on TRF who passed away some years back. He was a great character.

Lovely watch!

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Why do you have to be in good health to wear a watch??? Stupid phrase

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It's just a nice thing to say to someone. Others will understand.

I had my name down and paid deposit last year for Pepsi in march with ad and was guaranteed to get one..only to be told 4 weeks ago they can't get one and will have to refund the deposit back to me..whole year of keeping my money and then refunding me..poor customer service

Am on the list at my local AD for a Pepsi supposedly, but don't hold out much hope even though I've bought some Rolex from them in the last 2 or 3 years. Now considering another TT to go with my DJ41 perhaps instead. Was sorely tempted by a blue sub when I saw one at an evening do at a local jewellers, I must admit.

I’m a fan of the blue 16613, nice watch.

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I had my name down and paid deposit last year for Pepsi in march with ad and was guaranteed to get one..only to be told 4 weeks ago they can't get one and will have to refund the deposit back to me..whole year of keeping my money and then refunding me..poor customer service

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That’s beyond poor service!

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I went on a list and got a call ...never say never..you never know :devilish: That TT sub is nice BTW.

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Thx!

If the call DID happen, and I don’t expect it ever will, I don’t know how I’d feel about it now.

I like to actually wear my watches but now often feel uncomfortable wearing my Hulk, knowing that it’s fast approaching £10k in value. Would I want to wear a GMT that’s worth even more?



An unlikely dilemma, as I now believe mere mortals like myself will never get a chance to find out anyway.

I put my name down on release day last year for a Pepsi, I was seventh on the list. I had a chat with the manager a month ago and he thinks he has had about 7 in the last year. He said see what Basel brings this year & see what's hot. Well I'm guessing demand won't have dried up so I have a plan to get one by 17th July this year. Fingers crossed when I go a collect my warranty card for my hulk next month :)

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I put my name down on release day last year for a Pepsi, I was seventh on the list. I had a chat with the manager a month ago and he thinks he has had about 7 in the last year. He said see what Basel brings this year & see what's hot. Well I'm guessing demand won't have dried up so I have a plan to get one by 17th July this year. Fingers crossed when I go a collect my warranty card for my hulk next month :)

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Interesting. You were 7th and they’ve had 7 in. I’m not a mathematician but......

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Interesting. You were 7th and they’ve had 7 in. I’m not a mathematician but......

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Now you know & I know AD mathematics doesn't work like that, it's the bigger numbers that come first £££

Looks good! Congrats and enjoy :-)

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I put my name down on release day last year for a Pepsi, I was seventh on the list. I had a chat with the manager a month ago and he thinks he has had about 7 in the last year. He said see what Basel brings this year & see what's hot. Well I'm guessing demand won't have dried up so I have a plan to get one by 17th July this year. Fingers crossed when I go a collect my warranty card for my hulk next month :)

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I completely relate to this as well. Previously when I had a ND sub, it was worth around £4k - this is only going back a few years - and now I've just bought a 116600 but I'm a bit scared to wear it outside due to the value. I don't see things getting any better with Tudor seemingly taking the place of the Rolex from 5 years ago in terms of pricing, so this pattern will be the new norm.

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I completely relate to this as well. Previously when I had a ND sub, it was worth around £4k - this is only going back a few years - and now I've just bought a 116600 but I'm a bit scared to wear it outside due to the value. I don't see things getting any better with Tudor seemingly taking the place of the Rolex from 5 years ago in terms of pricing, so this pattern will be the new norm.

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It’s a bit of a self-fulfilling system. They increase in price because people are buying as investments not as watches to wear and enjoy. Would be nice if things returned to the way they were 4+ years ago but when and if that will ever happen ....

Lists are a waste of time. Spend enough with your A.D. and they’ll get you one.


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Lists are a waste of time. Spend enough with your A.D. and they’ll get you one.

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The list is just a list of people who want to buy the watch. The order is of no major significance. As you say, best customers get first pick irrespective. Bad news for people like me but completely understandable.

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I put my name down on release day last year for a Pepsi, I was seventh on the list. I had a chat with the manager a month ago and he thinks he has had about 7 in the last year.)

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Must be a big AD to have 7 in less than a year, no? Haven't asked recently but my AD had only seen one when I spoke back end of last year. Might have been saying that just so I didn't feel hard done by!

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Originally Posted by henk

Sadly TTs are one the few Rolex sport models which are readily available due to their unpopularity. They are also hard to sell on and have poor residuals.

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In my own experience (I've had 3 of them) that's not true at all.

R

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Originally Posted by henk

Sadly TTs are one the few Rolex sport models which are readily available due to their unpopularity. They are also hard to sell on and have poor residuals.

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Based on my experience this statement is not correct. I purchased a 16613 a few years ago, thoroughly enjoyed owning it and then sold it on at a profit to fund another purchase. it is a lovely watch and I very much hope the OP enjoys the ownership experience. Miltonaires are also great to deal with so another good choice.

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Originally Posted by henk

The new upgraded BLNR/Jubilee will be equally unobtainable.

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Like the sub

Like the sub date

Like the hulk

Like the SD43

Like the GMT

Like the current/outgoing BLNR on Oyster

So nothing new there then.


I’ll just stick with my worthless, depreciating and hard to sell two tone.

Out of curiosity, has anyone on this forum actually managed to get a Pepsi from an AD in the last 6 months/a year?

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Originally Posted by RJM25R

Thx!

If the call DID happen, and I don’t expect it ever will, I don’t know how I’d feel about it now.

I like to actually wear my watches but now often feel uncomfortable wearing my Hulk, knowing that it’s fast approaching £10k in value. Would I want to wear a GMT that’s worth even more?



An unlikely dilemma, as I now believe mere mortals like myself will never get a chance to find out anyway.

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Your hulk is already worth over 10k!

My AD has told me I will get one eventually just not yet. I assume they have plenty of VIPs to look after and I am certainly not one of their big spenders

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Must be a big AD to have 7 in less than a year, no? Haven't asked recently but my AD had only seen one when I spoke back end of last year. Might have been saying that just so I didn't feel hard done by!

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I think ADs get more than what they let on to not upset customers. When I spoke to mine in maybe September last year they told me they’ve received a ‘few’ and this is just a small chain AD.

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Your hulk is already worth over 10k!

My AD has told me I will get one eventually just not yet. I assume they have plenty of VIPs to look after and I am certainly not one of their big spenders

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It’s sat in the safe and I’m out tonight wearing my GMT.

I’m wondering if it’s time to let it go, after I saved up to buy it and it’s getting little wear.....

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I wear this with no abandon, even though items worth£4000 I don’t worry. Marks, scratches, scuffs? Maybe! But that’s it’s life story, surely!?

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I wear this with no abandon, even though items worth£4000 I don’t worry. Marks, scratches, scuffs? Maybe! But that’s it’s life story, surely!?

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Does look nice that Ric.

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Does look nice that Ric.

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Cheers mate!

If you ain’t wearing it, what’s the point?

Airking, Hulk, aerospace, speedy panda, your time (maybe) is due!

Gmt ln is out so the rest will rise in price

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https://i.postimg.cc/44Hhjnvz/0-DD7-...32675-AEA4.jpg

I wear this with no abandon, even though items worth£4000 I don’t worry. Marks, scratches, scuffs? Maybe! But that’s it’s life story, surely!?

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If you think that’s worth £4K Ric, you’re seriously behind the times.

Put it SC at that and the hoovers would have bought it before you’ve finished writing!

Apart from my G shock, my GMT is the only watch I wear these days too.

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It’s sat in the safe and I’m out tonight wearing my GMT.

I’m wondering if it’s time to let it go, after I saved up to buy it and it’s getting little wear.....

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Sold my hulk because it just wasnt being worn



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Cheers mate!

If you ain’t wearing it, what’s the point?

Airking, Hulk, aerospace, speedy panda, your time (maybe) is due!

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Panda Ric [emoji102], you know the direction to my PM

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