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    The death of Doctor Who??

    Now that it's been announced that Jodie Whittaker will be the next Doctor Who, is this the end?
    I've been watching Doctor Who since the 1970's and it looks like the terribly Politically Correct BBC have finally signed it's death warrant?
    I won't be watching it anymore :(

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    That's terribly blinkered, give the girl a chance!



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    Why??

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Why??
    Because.






    Really, if you need to ask...
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Why??
    Because IMO she is a very good actress, she might bring a new energy to the show and with good story lines it might surpass some past male performances.

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    I think it’s an excellent move. Over the last few years there have been several Time Lords, including the Master, who have had female regenerations. There is no reason why The Doctor shouldn’t be female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Because.






    Really, if you need to ask...
    Funny the amount of people on Faceblook including plenty of women are complaining about this. It will be a disaster like Top Gear - you change the format you screw the show and no doubt the failing viewing figures will result in cancellation

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    R.I.P

    Big mistake imho and I won't be watching.

    Next a female bond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Funny the amount of people on Faceblook including plenty of women are complaining about this. It will be a disaster like Top Gear - you change the format you screw the show and no doubt the failing viewing figures will result in cancellation
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Lee View Post
    I think it’s an excellent move. Over the last few years there have been several Time Lords, including the Master, who have had female regenerations. There is no reason why The Doctor shouldn’t be female.
    Really? I can only think of one

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    She's well tasty. Any opportunity to watch the lovely Jodie is AOK in my book.

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    A pal at work is a very serious die hard Dr Who fan.
    The kind of fan who bought every episode on VHS, DVD and then Blu Ray over the years.
    He has been praying that it wouldn't be a female Dr!

    Personally, as someone who watches it very infrequently, I don't see what difference the sex of the character makes, and think that a female Dr is great.

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    Politically correct posturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFixer View Post
    R.I.P

    Big mistake imho and I won't be watching.

    Next a female bond?

    Or perhaps a non-white bond?

    I repeat my previous comment.

    Politically correct posturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Or perhaps a non-white bond?

    I repeat my previous comment.

    Politically correct posturing.
    Or perhaps the BBC could commission a new superheroes film "Wonder Man" ??

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    It's certainly a bit of a gamble, and possibly stunt-casting. They're obvously trying to keep it fresh.

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    Having watch every incarnation since the first one I am somewhat taken aback by this.

    It could work I guess.

    Cant be any worse than Tennant - I thought that he was truly terrible and out of kilter with what had gone before.

    Last edited by Velorum; 16th July 2017 at 17:22.

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    I'm not really a fan of the show but my wife and daughter are, big time.

    They are not at all happy.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    It's a childish (but enjoyable) family TV show about an time-traveling alien who cannot die and can change shape. It's hardly seems getting worried because one out of thirteen regenerates into a woman.

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    Given that The Dr has regenerated into a completely different persona many times over the years I can't see the problem. Is it any more of a gamble than any radically new or different character?... and there have been many.

    Saying that, Swmbo's reaction was "Really? That's just equality gone mad....."

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Really? I can only think of one
    There have been 3:

    In The Doctor’s Wife by Neil Gaiman, The Corsair was described as having both male and female regenerations.
    The General regenerated from a white male to a black female in Hell Bent. After the regeneration she said she was back to normal, implying she’d been a female for 9 of her 10 regenerations.
    The Master regenerated into Missy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Lee View Post
    There have been 3:

    In The Doctor’s Wife by Neil Gaiman, The Corsair was described as having both male and female regenerations.
    The General regenerated from a white male to a black female in Hell Bent. After the regeneration she said she was back to normal, implying she’d been a female for 9 of her 10 regenerations.
    The Master regenerated into Missy.
    Romania briefly become an alien dwarf while picking a new form and that four decades ago...

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    Looking forward to Jane Bond

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbez View Post
    Looking forward to Jane Bond
    A license to thrill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbez View Post
    Looking forward to Jane Bond
    They might want to get a ahead of the curve and go for a pre-op transsexual or even non binary character.

    Just a thought.

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    Capaldi's going to make a cracking Miss Marple.

    ATLF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    She's well tasty. Any opportunity to watch the lovely Jodie is AOK in my book.
    Be like Tiswas back in the day, bet there'll be a lot more dads watching Who in October 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboy View Post
    Be like Tiswas back in the day, bet there'll be a lot more dads watching Who in October
    Just how desperate do you need to be to get cheap thrills from a moribund drama?

    I can believe that in the 70s Leela might have provided transient succour for those dessicated souls incapable of purchasing Readers' Wives from their local supermarket but surely today, surrounded as we are by a tsunami of internet porn, will it really make a difference to the viewing figures if the Doctor is easy on the eye?









    Hang on, I've thought about it. And you're probably right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    She's well tasty. Any opportunity to watch the lovely Jodie is AOK in my book.
    Agree. TBH never got on with the incumbent, I think Jodie will attract a new audience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Or perhaps the BBC could commission a new superheroes film "Wonder Man" ??
    Exactly!



    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    They might want to get a ahead of the curve and go for a pre-op transsexual or even non binary character.

    Just a thought.
    TMS has been absent for a while. Maybe?

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    Surely both inevitable and overdue.

    There wasn't all this fuss about a gay Doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post

    TMS has been absent for a while. Maybe?
    That could work


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    Hello

    I'd say give her a chance but I was hoping it might be Amara Karan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73 View Post
    Capaldi's going to make a cracking Miss Marple.

    ATLF.

    In the style of Malcolm Tucker? I'd watch that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Or perhaps the BBC could commission a new superheroes film "Wonder Man" ??
    That joke only works if you don't know that marvel has published a character since Wonderman since 1965 and that DC Comics first has a male Wonder Woman about twenty years ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PamFan View Post
    It's OK folks. The BBC are rebranding it as Nurse Who.

    Obviously a woman couldn't be a doctor!
    Quite. Or at least, not in the middle of the 19th century, where some are still trying to live.

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    It's simply insane. Another British tradition slaughtered at the altar of political correctness.

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    I've whinged about each Doctor. I've mostly be wrong. If she can act then she'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weaselid View Post
    I've whinged about each Doctor. I've mostly be wrong. If she can act then she'll be fine.
    What did you think when Troughton replaced Hartnell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post
    A pal at work is a very serious die hard Dr Who fan.
    The kind of fan who bought every episode on VHS, DVD and then Blu Ray over the years.
    He has been praying that it wouldn't be a female Dr!

    Personally, as someone who watches it very infrequently, I don't see what difference the sex of the character makes, and think that a female Dr is great.
    The point is that it is supposed to be the same character, the same Doctor, despite the various regenerations. Of course there can be a female Time Lord, and indeed there already has.

    But a sudden change of gender massively messes with the the core identity of the Doctor. Despite the changes of appearance, clothing and behaviour there should be a certain continuity of character and personality and a sudden sex change dramatically undermines that.

    It also raises difficult questions. For example, isn't it a little weird that an individual with 900 years of memories of being male now has to adapt to life with breasts and a vagina? The first thing the new Doctor will do is have a sneaky look down her pants.

    And why is it that a character that we now know can regenerate as a woman regenerated as a man eleven times in a row? If any thing it actually introduces a sexist element that didn't previously exist.

    It's nothing to do with simple gender prejudice, any more than complaining about Owen Wilson being cast as Shaft would be racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    It's a childish (but enjoyable) family TV show about an time-traveling alien who cannot die and can change shape. It's hardly seems getting worried because one out of thirteen regenerates into a woman.
    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    And why is it that a character that we now know can regenerate as a woman regenerated as a man eleven times in a row? If any thing it actually introduces a sexist element that didn't previously exist.
    Disclaimer: I don't watch Dr Who so don't really care but...
    It's the fact that it's taken so long that I don't get. If the Dr can regenerate as either male or female, why hasn't it happened before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Now that it's been announced that Jodie Whittaker will be the next Doctor Who, is this the end?
    I've been watching Doctor Who since the 1970's and it looks like the terribly Politically Correct BBC have finally signed it's death warrant?
    I won't be watching it anymore :(
    Were you angry when that terrible wuss Peter Davidson was made Doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFixer View Post
    Next a female bond?
    Celia Imrie as James Bond would get me watching again. Ice cold charm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Were you angry when that terrible wuss Peter Davidson was made Doctor?
    Not especially, but then Tom Baker was always going to be a hard act to follow

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    Not especially, but then Tom Baker was always going to be a hard act to follow
    What is it that masculinity gave Peter Davidson but which the new Doctor will be unavoidably lacking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    What is it that masculinity gave Peter Davidson but which the new Doctor will be unavoidably lacking?
    What a totally smart arse left wing comment - you clearly believe that people aren't allowed an opinion that differs from people like you.?
    I'm surprised you haven't accused me of being Sexist or Misogynist or is that a given

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Celia Imrie as James Bond would get me watching again. Ice cold charm.
    Yes.

    Or Emilia Fox perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseus10 View Post
    What a totally smart arse left wing comment - you clearly believe that people aren't allowed an opinion that differs from people like you.?
    I'm surprised you haven't accused me of being Sexist or Misogynist or is that a given
    How dare you presume to know what my opinions are? You must be feeling very upset, so I'll forgive you. This once.

    I have no especial opinion on there being a female doctor who, but I remember very clearly my feelings in the early eighties when the ineffably wet Tristan from the James Herriot programmes was made Doctor Who. If that diffident piece of fluff was acceptable, why shouldn't some fruity blonde? At least she seems to have some steel in her eyes, which is more than could be said for Peter Davidson.

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    See this >>>>>>>>>

    thats how much I care.

    its not the actress that's important - it's the quality of the script - which has been sadly lacking for about 10 years.

    Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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    The so called BBC have missed their chance to pander to the Politically Correct Perpetually Offended Progressive Zealots.
    It should have been a black disabled lesbian transgender dwarf with a nut allergy.

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