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    Just tell me, who is buying Tesla stock at $2,009?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Just tell me, who is buying Tesla stock at $2,009?


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    = $2,009
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    Maybe people buying Tesla simply because of the exposure and momentum..


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    Well many are making money out of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by studly View Post


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    Anyone else notice how Elon doesn´t actually inhale, he takes what looks like a big drag then immediately expels all the smoke. Faker.

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    Perhaps because it's a cigar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Perhaps because it's a cigar

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    Ah I stand corrected if so, thought it was meant to be a joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Perhaps because it's a cigar

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    It was weed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Well many are making money out of it
    And I'm sure they will continue to do so until EM has some sort of meltdown again saying the stock is massively over priced causing shareholders to run to the hills!

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    Lol, weed disguised cigar awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Lol, weed disguised cigar awesome

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    I think when Americans smoke weed they mostly smoke "blunts" which is a hollowed out cigar instead of rolling papers.

    There was no hiding on the episode. It was offered as weed and taken as weed. Legal in California.

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    That explains a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Lol, weed disguised cigar awesome

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    Known as a ‘Phili Blunt’ i believe.

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    When Tesla unravels I wonder if that will precipitate and almighty sell off of the other overvalued tech stocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    When Tesla unravels I wonder if that will precipitate and almighty sell off of the other overvalued tech stocks.
    you never know ..but the big difference is majority of the others actually make decent money are holding bags of cash and have strong balance sheets to support valuations albeit at some heady multipliers...

    but yes it could cause a stampede

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    you never know ..but the big difference is majority of the others actually make decent money are holding bags of cash and have strong balance sheets to support valuations albeit at some heady multipliers...

    but yes it could cause a stampede
    So what you are saying is there should be plenty of decent buying opportunities if/when that happens?

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    No fan of Zerohedge, but this is interesting:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wh...ap-tech-stocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    you never know ..but the big difference is majority of the others actually make decent money are holding bags of cash and have strong balance sheets to support valuations albeit at some heady multipliers...

    but yes it could cause a stampede
    Amazon looks good but the other tech monsters look fragile

    Apple, iPhone makes up 60% of sales, remember Nokia?

    Facebook, now only for oldies, social media fatigue... new players like TikTok

    Google, people becoming more aware of paid for ads, still dominate in search.

    Netflix, just one of many streaming services.

    Let’s not mention Tesla.

    Do these companies own the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Apple, iPhone makes up 60% of sales, remember Nokia?
    ..though the iPhone is not just a phone, it’s part of an ecosystem that includes your tablet / laptop / desktop / TV streaming, all done in a pleasantly consistent and well designed way. It’s where your family photos are organised, it’s where you get your music, it’s how you rent your films, how you do your work... Other brands may have better individual features but moving away from the Apple ecosystem once you’re in it is a huge an unpalatable lurch. With their loyal customers and stack of cash I’d be very surprised if they’re not part of the future, even if under Cook they aren’t innovating at the rate of Jobs.

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    Found the confirmation email from 2014 when I sold my employee shares at Apple. Painful reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    ..though the iPhone is not just a phone, it’s part of an ecosystem that includes your tablet / laptop / desktop / TV streaming, all done in a pleasantly consistent and well designed way. It’s where your family photos are organised, it’s where you get your music, it’s how you rent your films, how you do your work... Other brands may have better individual features but moving away from the Apple ecosystem once you’re in it is a huge an unpalatable lurch. With their loyal customers and stack of cash I’d be very surprised if they’re not part of the future, even if under Cook they aren’t innovating at the rate of Jobs.
    I have an iPhone but none of the other stuff. Just like many others.

    Not all iPhone users are bought in as you describe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    I have an iPhone but none of the other stuff. Just like many others.

    Not all iPhone users are bought in as you describe.
    The iPhone is the gateway drug. Perhaps it’s time you tried something a little stronger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    The iPhone is the gateway drug. Perhaps it’s time you tried something a little stronger...
    Nah. Just say no ... Zammo was right.

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    Apple has 192.8 Billion in cash reserves...which is well a mind bending number

    US debt 26.6 trillion or $ 214’000 per tax payer ....now that is mind bending...

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    Well, the fed will keep going

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Apple has 192.8 Billion in cash reserves...which is well a mind bending number

    US debt 26.6 trillion or $ 214’000 per tax payer ....now that is mind bending...
    Make America great again!!

    Better start paying off some of that mortgage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Well, the fed will keep going
    But there must be a limit, surely? Assuming they eventually run out of steam, will this bring other economies down or will others rebound once the artificial pressure is removed?

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    The limit is probably who wins the next election

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    Might the real limit only be reached or breached when there exists a viable, functional and widely accepted alternative to the dollar as the worlds reserve currency, otherwise they'll just print to infinity and beyond and because of the great privilege afforded by reserve currency status the almighty dollar/ Wall St. just keeps on going...until it doesn't.
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    And what happens when it doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Nah. Just say no ... Zammo was right.
    Ah but then he didn’t say no - may as well just order that iPad now :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    Ah but then he didn’t say no - may as well just order that iPad now :-)
    You're right, he basically went into the Apple shop and filled his trolley then needed the Genius Bar to sort himself out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dadam02~ View Post
    And what happens when it doesn't?
    Hard to say, range of outcomes and policy responses...Might there be another Great Depression, I dunno, at the end of the day there's no way US households are able to stump up that 200k most have got barely 10k in savings, leaving China aside they owe most of the debt to themselves... could/would the Yanks default, triggering a global debt jubilee...seems unlikely, maybe the bubble deflates rather than bursts...though I think the Fed's pushed, continuing to push it far beyond that point.
    Exciting times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    Ah but then he didn’t say no - may as well just order that iPad now :-)
    Ah, well I’m posting this on the iPad. Point is most people are not fully hooked into the Apple ecosystem otherwise they would not be making 60% of their revenue from iPhone.

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    I don't understand why people think the Apple ecosystem is in any way superior to Android or Windows? I have never owned an Apple device in my life and still all my hardware is synced across different operating systems (Android and Windows) including full cloud integration (OneDrive, 5 terabyte for EUR 85 per year including 5 Office365 licenses). Any picture I take on my phone appears within seconds on my PC. No extra software or apps required, works out of the box.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I don't understand why people think the Apple ecosystem is in any way superior to Android or Windows? I have never owned an Apple device in my life and still all my hardware is synced across different operating systems (Android and Windows) including full cloud integration (OneDrive, 5 terabyte for EUR 85 per year including 5 Office365 licenses). Any picture I take on my phone appears within seconds on my PC. No extra software or apps required, works out of the box.
    Exactly, Apple has achieved fashion tech status.

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    Yep, I've been Google and Android for ages, the Google ecosystem works perfectly for work and home and integrates seemlessly

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    I confess i am a junkie ....an Apple junkie switched 10 years ago with phone and 7 years ago to Mac

    Still use windows PC’s and have tried a Samsung Android but just cannot live with the seemingly constant threats and patches and slow start up speed ....but then I’m sure things have got better recently...

    But I have successfully made the move from Heinz beans to Branston after 35 years.....haha ....

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    Threats and patches?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Well you have sell an Apple phone after 2 years as they deliberately junk the batteries

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    Buy a brand-new Moto phone, same functionality as last year's top Samsung for 25% of the price.

    Apple.....?


    Also, can't seem to find an Apple phone in the Techradar best telephone lists.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Buy a brand-new Moto phone, same functionality as last year's top Samsung for 25% of the price.

    Apple.....?


    Also, can't seem to find an Apple phone in the Techradar best telephone lists.
    Tbh the previous One Plus model is the best value imo, John Lewis selling the 7T Pro for 550, half the price of an equivalent Samsung or Apple

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    How do you milk sheep? Release a new iPhone. Badabum,tisssh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Well you have sell an Apple phone after 2 years as they deliberately junk the batteries

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    Do you really believe that? I ran my last 2 iPhones for 4 years each, never needed to replace the battery - although it is easy to get it changed by Apple if I wanted to. Sounds like you’ve drunk the Android Cool-Aid.

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    Apple have admitted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Tbh the previous One Plus model is the best value imo, John Lewis selling the 7T Pro for 550, half the price of an equivalent Samsung or Apple

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    Fantastic phones but very heavy and terrible cameras. If those don't bother you it's one of the best you can get. Hard to best a pixel though. I have the 4a coming on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Fantastic phones but very heavy and terrible cameras. If those don't bother you it's one of the best you can get. Hard to best a pixel though. I have the 4a coming on Monday.
    I gave my S20 Ultra say because it was so heavy lol, One Plus 7 much lighter

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    This thread is becoming a phone snob thread, who cares whether you like android vs ios etc etc blah blah.

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    Bonkers.

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