You need one without lume...
Maybe a SARB065?
In a recently started thread (http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...all-own-Rolex) I lightheartedly threatened to post my Seikos and was encouraged to do so by Velorum - so blame him for this
Here's the bottom drawer of my watch box, exclusively devoted to the products of that one overarching Japanese watchmaker.
It's only a quick (but hopefully not too dirty) phone camera shot by natural light. If anyone's interest is piqued I can post pics of individual watches.
Top row, L to R:
SKX007, modded hands and dial, flat sapphire, on a WJean shark mesh. This is not one of my mods, it was acquired from a local diving enthusiast who was clearing out his excess divers. I was told that it was a creation of someone who had started by modding Seikos and then developed their own brand. I don't think it was Jake Bordeau, any ideas who else fits this description?
SKX007, modded by me with dial from Dagaz and hands from Yobokies, to see what a mini-Spork recreation could look like. The hand set included a Sinn-style second hand, but it was too heavy and dominated the dial. I think the hand that's on there looks a little more Sporkish in balance. On an eBay anvil bracelet. I got the original watch from TZUK member Roondog (Hi Roondog!) via SC. Later I sent him a pic of the present watch. "Mark, you modded my watch????!!!!!" was roughly the response
SKX171, unmodded, on Yobokies oyster bracelet with Seiko clasp. I always intended to swap in a domed sapphire and a 007 bezel, both of which are sitting in my parts box. But somehow it never happened.
Black monster, original version, untouched.
Orange monster, original version, untouched.
Bottom row, L to R:
SKX009, modded to hell and most of the way back again. I bought this as a battered S/H 009 to learn modding skills. I replaced the dial, crystal, bezel insert, hands, and fully brushed the case, which is why it looks so dull in the pic. Along the way the dial was swapped for a different orange one, a fresh set of 007 hands, chapter ring, and bezel insert were installed.
Phillipine 7002 fully restored with all new parts, from a Filipino restorer. On random eBay shark mesh.
Seiko 5 Sport SNGZ15, the watch that got me back into collecting Seikos. Damn the thing all to hell. On one of Eddie's NATOs with bead blasted rings to match the watch.
Spork, on standard Spork bracelet. I could only find the watch on the rubber, but I was lucky with the bracelet because Harold/Yobokies had a couple left in stock. If Seiko would make this with a hacking movement, bevelled sapphire crystal, and machined clasp on the bracelet, it would be near perfect. I keep hoping. As it is, this will be one of the last to go.
SKA509 Kinetic Sportura on original bracelet. The only diving watch in the Sportura line, and for a long time the only diver that Seiko put a sapphire in. The dial is endlessly fascinating. With the Spork, this will be one of the very last to go. The diver extension on the titanium (why?) clasp makes the bracelet handily adjustable for hot weather.
These watches are all eminently in the affordable category (well under $1000 each, some much nearer $100), but all are very pleasant to wear, easy to read, decently waterproof, and nearly all have almost impossibly good lume (barring the 7002). The SNGZ15 has woken me up in the middle of the night when I brought the watch too close to my face in my sleep.
Hope that at least the Seiko fans among you have enjoyed this, and hopefully a some others who aren't yet Seiko fans. It's also my hope that others on the forum who have modest collections will feel encouraged to post them too.
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You need one without lume...
Maybe a SARB065?
You can't beat the Monsters for the the value for money factor, great watches.
How come the Seiko 55 Fathoms mod is not there yet??
Top left 007 looks well on that mesh strap. I like that a lot, might try one on my Tuna...
Excellent post Mark and a really interesting collection of Seikos.
Apart from anything else it really demonstrates what you can do using the SKX 007/009 case and movement as a base.
At one stage I was up to 8 Seikos (3 first generation Monsters, 7002, SKX009, Sawtooth, Flightmaster and an early Seiko 5). I sold the lot to move into Breitling ownership (including selling my Yao Yellow Monster to MakeColdplayHistory on this thread - hello!).
After a lengthy spell, I've recently got back into Seiko ownership with the acquisition of a PADI turtle re-issue and a black & gold Mini Tuna. Just too good to resist!
I really like your SPORK btw...
Simon
A Seiko with no lume? Heresy, I tell you.
I have looked at the SARBs mayn times over the years, but none of them ever clicked with me, and they are a little small for my size - I mostly wear 42mm or 44mm, occasionally go down to 40mm.
I'm not keen on the 55 fathoms, if it looks like a dive watch I should feel OK about taking it in the water, and 100m WR isn't enough for that. Although the SNGZ15 shown has been pretty wet many times with no issues.
That's the shiny shark mesh from WJean. Even in my crappy photo you can see that the one on the 7002 is duller, more like a brushed finish.
Thanks for your kind words, Simon.
When you mentioned Bill Yao it triggered my recollection of the guy I couldn't recall when writing the OP. The one at top left is a Bill Yao mod, from before he started MkII. Thank you for that!
Glad you like the Spork - it was a lucky find for me, since I grew to like them rather slowly, and by the time I bought it it was the last one on amazon.co.uk, and I had to have it shipped to a friend in Cambridge (seller wouldn't ship to Switzerland) so I only got to pick it up several months later.
I didn't mention this in my OP, but Seikos are rarely seen in Switzerland, so when I wear them I am often asked about my watch and what it is. I was once at a business lunch with several POs and IWCs around the table, and it was the SKA509 that was being passed around and exciting curiosity as being out of the ordinary.
Nice collection, makes me miss my Black Monster. I sold it far too cheaply.
Nice collection Mark
I've had probably 7 or 8 SKX007/9/13, some of which were modded (by me) and some left as OEM.
Ultimately, I find them uncomfortable to wear on anything other than a NATO due to the crown guard, so none of them stayed.
Having said that, I have a 009 which has never been worn. I just feel like every collection should have one.
The Black Bay (red) is a nice mod to consider
Ed
The SKX779 was the watch that kicked off the whole watch malarkey for me, every now and again I think about replacing it though I haven't yet. I wouldn't get the more recent version, I'd seek out a direct replacement.
OP - Jake B is the most well known Seiko modder though Alex at Artifice Horoworks has got some followers, could it be his SKX that you refer to?
Nice bunch. Makes me miss my Monsters too.
Are you looking at adding to the collection? The SNZH53 might fit in nicely.
What's your opinion of the Spork? I love my Orange Monster and a little hit and miss on my BFK. I wondered what your feelings were regarding the Spork
Handsome mod there, Andy. Personally I don't find that the cushion case Seikos attract me, the Sumos look out of proportion to me (maybe why they get flipped so much), GS I find mostly too elegant for my proletarian tastes, and the MM300 has too many deal breakers for me.
I did think seriously about a Stargate more than once, but the coloured ring on the crown always put me off. And the SKA509 does the stargate thing even better.
Hi Ed! TBH I think I'm done modding Seikos, I moved on from there to building 6497/8 type watches - although I stopped because I have too many cluttering up the place now.
I tend to agree with you that everyone should have a 007/9 because it's such a total classic, and so very affordable. I don't find them uncomfortable, although I find the two on the bottom right are worn more than the others put together these days.
I think it would be hard to improve on the original BM's design, which Seiko kind of proved by making the new Monsters not as good looking.
I'm in agreement with you, the original is the best.
As I said in the OP, it wasn't Jake. One of the responses above made me realise it was Bill Yao.
I don't think any more will be added any time soon - as you see, the drawer is full, LOL.
A more rational person than I would instead be working out how to get rid of at least eight or nine of those shown
The Spork is special. I put it best in the OP, where I said that I would love to see Seiko perfect it, and that it would be one of the last to go.
Love the spork - nice collection :)
Glad that you decided to post this!
Thats a great selection you have there. When I was going through one of my Seiko phases I modded a 5 and a 7002 with part from Harold (Yobokies).
As regards their dive watches I has an SKX013 for a while and found this a much better size. I would have kept it but for the day/date function which drives me to distraction.
Why not add a dressier style to the collection - a SARB033/035 perhaps?
Nice little collection there - thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks. I'm clearly not as big a Spork fan as you are, obviously! In fact, who is?????
Thanks, Velo. I agree with you that the day and date on the SKX range is actually a downside, just date would make them quicker to set and go.
Never seen a SKX013 in life, I assume it's pretty much the same build quality only smaller. As I said, I stick to the 42-44mm range mostly, 7.5" flattish wrist means the under-40s hae a lot of extra wrist showing.
The SARBs still just leave me with a feeling of "meh". The Alpinist intrigued me for a while, but it would need to have the gold accents replaced with silver and be over 40mm for me to consider it seriously. I guess my main issue with the "smarter" SARBs is that they are competing in a price bracket where there are a lot of other options including respectable Swiss makers and other Japanese brands.
Its 38mm (excluding crown) and in effect a slightly smaller version on an 007. More wearable but still too big for my taste.
I know what you mean about the SARBS
Its a shame that the only Seiko's that appeal to me these days size wise are some of the GS's - also the only ones that you can get without a date window
Still, if your not stuck on 50's/60's case sizes and dont mind date and/or day windows then the world is your oyster
I love a good Seiko and you have some really interesting ones, thanks for posting!
It's funny, I was taking some (rubbish) iPhone pictures of my collection the other day to eventually get round to posting a SOTC and my bottom watch box drawer is full of Seikos
Needs more Monsters, IMO. (You can never have too many).
R
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I still regret the opportunity when there was an Alpinist and a Cocktail Time on SC at the same time; could have snapped them both up for the price of a Breitling croc strap.
Bah.
Just a small comment on the reliability of the Seiko 5 Sport movement: if you use/waer the watch daily it is not existing 2-3 years life time: then this movement breaks / stops. The only good thing is: Seiko watches with the S5 movement are super cheap so I can afford to replace each 2-3 years for my boy. It is already his 4th one :)
Nice collection :) my orange monster and spork say hi.
Love my spork, one of my special watches :)
Great collection.my favourite is the field Watch keep meaning to add one to the collection.
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Lovely collection, I'm new to this game but bought a stargate the other month, really happy with it. This modding larky looks interesting, some research needed me thinks! Thanks for sharing.
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AFAICT the 7S26 will run for a lot longer than a couple years, but it is true that it's generally simpler and faster to replace the movement than try to service it. As you say, they are very cheap. Sometimes buying a new Seiko 5 is cheaper than trying to source a new movement.
The Spork is really something. If I had as many as Dave does, I'd look at modding it into something more.
Thanks for showing that one, it's both interesting and new to me. Seiko echoed that bezel design in the SNE107 solar diver.
It's a very comfortable watch to wear on a soft NATO, being not very heavy and quite quiet as autos go. In pics it looks like the dial is badly cluttered (well, it is) but in life it's more instantly readable, the clutter seems to recede somewhat.
Harold does really nice work, is all I can say.
As you see, you're not alone in that opinion :)
Do I need to add extra layers of defence around my watch box? it sounds like it.
Thanks for the kind comment. The Stargate is a really good looking design, especially if it reminds you of Samantha Carter *sigh* :)
But don't get into modding, it's a black hole and rapidly becomes more expensive each month
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