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    Quote Originally Posted by uwtc View Post
    With a line up this underwhelming you have to think there's only so long they can simply rely on their marketing and brand power to keep up with the game. I'm not sure Gen Z has the same connection with the brand.
    I think that's a massively overlooked view in this. People never think what interests them will go out of fashion, but it will at some point. As many have said on here before, for some that came into these brands in the last few years, they've seen nothing but a meteoric climb in values, something that's not the norm, just a blip of social media and Covid.
    More on topic, totally underwhelming releases. The Tudor BB 58 GMT is ok, but even that's not enough to interest me really.

    Does anyone really see the market for things like a Gold Sea Dweller? I'm surprised there's not more outrage over desecrating the model in the range! People have had pretty firm views over this before, just surprised a £45k gold 'tool' watch isn't coping a load of flak - an Omega would be!

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    Presumably the big gold lump is really aimed at markets other than GB, China the Mid East yer Dubai wallahs at a guess, more money than sense, no concept of good taste and harsh penalties for robbers, chop, chop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    I wonder what nickname that bland black and grey GMT will get?
    The Scotland, cos it's either dark or its raining.

    I think the MOP/Diamond Daytona pair will look spectacular irl, and I like the new green sunburst DD.
    GMT will be the hot new kid on the block though for a while.
    DSSD gold is a howler.

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    I thought that the all gold deep-sea had been released many years ago. I saw one in a genuine Rolex stall in Sharm El-Seikh.

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    I got suckered into watching 'Moses the Jewler' on youtube...if there is a market for those chrome hearts Rolex abominations, then there is definitely a market for an original precious metal Rolex. As has been said above, probably not so much in the UK.

    As for the GMT Master 2...I can't really tell the difference between this and the original GMT-IIC model that has been in the line up for fifteen years.

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    A Vostok Europe from QVC has more class that that solid gold Deepsea. I've a MK1 SD43 and felt disappointed when the SD43 model was released in TT.

    I never thought Rolex could take cringe to a new level with the Deepsea. Destroying the heritage of the professional line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsammyp View Post



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    Does anyone know if this has an original gas escape valve? I can't quite tell from the picture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeBird View Post
    Does anyone really see the market for things like a Gold Sea Dweller? I'm surprised there's not more outrage over desecrating the model in the range! People have had pretty firm views over this before, just surprised a £45k gold 'tool' watch isn't coping a load of flak - an Omega would be!
    I think there's plenty of outrage, and will be more. Happy to add to it. It's an outrage alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50kopek View Post
    Does anyone know if this has an original gas escape valve? I can't quite tell from the picture...
    Yes it does, pic taken from Rolex configurator.




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    Quote Originally Posted by michael.jaye View Post
    Yes it does, pic taken from Rolex configurator.




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    I appreciate the response, but I'm afraid I wasn't quite serious. I'm not really a fan of the huge escape valve and ring lock text.

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    WG, MOP dial, a load of diamonds. I like it, but can see strong opposition from the PM haters on here.



    £61k is loose change in the back pocket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    WG, MOP dial, a load of diamonds. I like it, but can see strong opposition from the PM haters on here.



    £61k is loose change in the back pocket
    Actually, those two are my favourite releases of the year.
    I prefer the white mop dial though.


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    Is the GMT still on the 40mm case?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsammyp View Post
    Is the GMT still on the 40mm case?


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    Yes. Rumours starting to circulate that next update will be 41mm case GMT with slimmer lugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    I wonder what nickname that bland black and grey GMT will get?


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    The John Major


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomps68 View Post
    The John Major


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    The way that Rolex seems to be going with their models and pricing, they should just lump everything into one range........the 'Safe Dweller'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomps68 View Post
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    Lol. Very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50kopek View Post
    Does anyone know if this has an original gas escape valve? I can't quite tell from the picture...
    It would certainly need one based on the depth ratings (that I'm guessing will never ever be reached). :-)

    A blingy Deep Sea. Whatever next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50kopek View Post
    I appreciate the response, but I'm afraid I wasn't quite serious. I'm not really a fan of the huge escape valve and ring lock text.
    Ha, yes…can now see the ring lock text!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by j111dja View Post
    It would certainly need one based on the depth ratings (that I'm guessing will never ever be reached). :-)

    A blingy Deep Sea. Whatever next!
    Only the Explorer II now that's still unadulterated with bling. Suppose that's 2025 W&W sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylofitz View Post
    Only the Explorer II now that's still unadulterated with bling. Suppose that's 2025 W&W sorted.
    Full gold Seadweller 43 with solid gold bracelet 2025 rumours.

    That gold/gold deep sea is an abomination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    I wonder what nickname that bland black and grey GMT will get?


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    The Travellers Lounge….

    To get on the waiting list you need turkey teeth, a manbag and an orange missus who’s a beautician with an Evoque on lease.



    Plastic grass outside your new build for the XL/Staffy or frenchy to sht on, grey fence panels and a white Audi/BM or Merc yourself plus the Fade haircut, Ibiza holidays in your 40’s and a “cheeky Nando’s” on your instagram page will also help….

    Don’t forget the big trainers/skinny jeans and t shirt/Overshirt combo and tattoo on your hand (bonus points for praying hands and/or “Nan”) to identify yourself at the AD…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    The Travellers Lounge….

    To get on the waiting list you need turkey teeth, a manbag and an orange missus who’s a beautician with an Evoque on lease.



    Plastic grass outside your new build for the XL/Staffy or frenchy to sht on, grey fence panels and a white Audi/BM or Merc yourself plus the Fade haircut, Ibiza holidays in your 40’s and a “cheeky Nando’s” on your instagram page will also help….

    Don’t forget the big trainers/skinny jeans and t shirt/Overshirt combo and tattoo on your hand (bonus points for praying hands and/or “Nan”) to identify yourself at the AD…..

    Live/Love/Laugh………..
    You been doing market research at Meadowhell??

    And you’re probably bang on the money with that stereotype


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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    £45,700. Wow.

    I wouldn’t wear coloured gold and don’t have £45k!
    I too am thankful I don’t.

    Or wouldn’t ever even consider it.

    Fugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigeG View Post
    You been doing market research at Meadowhell??

    And you’re probably bang on the money with that stereotype


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    Trafford Centre/Cheshire Oaks/Bicester/any branch of Flannels (on Klarna of course)/Selfridges/Bluewater.

    Take your pick….. the car parks are hammered with wrapped Velars, 2series GranCoupe’s and CLA’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeBird View Post
    Does anyone really see the market for things like a Gold Sea Dweller? I'm surprised there's not more outrage over desecrating the model in the range! People have had pretty firm views over this before, just surprised a £45k gold 'tool' watch isn't coping a load of flak - an Omega would be!
    As a non Rolex enthusiast, I took one look at the gold Sea Dweller and simply thought that Rolex are starting to pander to their current market. Wealth in China, the Middle Eastern countries and others where yellow gold is still the go to precious metal and let's not forget the Instagram generation where a stand out look is everything. Rolex in my opinion lost the 'tool watch' moniker the day that grey prices started going through the roof and people who use tools could no longer afford them.

    Conversely, I really like the platinum 1908. The "rice-grain" dial I can give or take but the colour and design is a stunner. The first Rolex where I could understand demand outstripping supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    As a non Rolex enthusiast, I took one look at the gold Sea Dweller and simply thought that Rolex are starting to pander to their current market. Wealth in China, the Middle Eastern countries and others where yellow gold is still the go to precious metal and let's not forget the Instagram generation where a stand out look is everything. Rolex in my opinion lost the 'tool watch' moniker the day that grey prices started going through the roof and people who use tools could no longer afford them.

    Conversely, I really like the platinum 1908. The "rice-grain" dial I can give or take but the colour and design is a stunner. The first Rolex where I could understand demand outstripping supply.
    I had thought many in the Middle East would not consider anything in YG tbh! Is it really the go to there???

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    I would say without a doubt that this has been the poorest Rolex offering at w and w / Geneva world since I’ve started this hobby circa 2015


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    I too am thankful I don’t.

    Or wouldn’t ever even consider it.

    Fugly
    Such a strange exhibition from them

    When a 26k platinum Cellini replacement looks like one of the nicer releases something really is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Such a strange exhibition from them

    When a 26k platinum Cellini replacement looks like one of the nicer releases something really is wrong.
    Their market has shifted over the years and they are pandering to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    I took one look at the gold Sea Dweller and simply thought that Rolex are starting to pander to their current market.
    Starting? Just flick through one of those vintage Rolex books, and see what happens in the 80s.

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    The grey black bezel is actually quite nice in real life. IMO of course.
    Last edited by Boss13; 10th April 2024 at 07:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Their market has shifted over the years and they are pandering to it.
    Probably. Been looking at videos of the new black bay and it really is overlapping with the Sub in a way Tudors have never done previously.

    Very nice but not 3.8k nice. I’m keen to try one but it can’t be worth 50% of a no date sub 41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Probably. Been looking at videos of the new black bay and it really is overlapping with the Sub in a way Tudors have never done previously.

    Very nice but not 3.8k nice. I’m keen to try one but it can’t be worth 50% of a no date sub 41.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5idmxFrfmz/
    Looks really tempting tbh. May just send that email after all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Probably. Been looking at videos of the new black bay and it really is overlapping with the Sub in a way Tudors have never done previously.

    Very nice but not 3.8k nice. I’m keen to try one but it can’t be worth 50% of a no date sub 41.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5idmxFrfmz/
    I like it, but I have a view that perhaps a No Date Sub is not worth 100% more than the BB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    The Travellers Lounge….

    To get on the waiting list you need turkey teeth, a manbag and an orange missus who’s a beautician with an Evoque on lease.



    Plastic grass outside your new build for the XL/Staffy or frenchy to sht on, grey fence panels and a white Audi/BM or Merc yourself plus the Fade haircut, Ibiza holidays in your 40’s and a “cheeky Nando’s” on your instagram page will also help….

    Don’t forget the big trainers/skinny jeans and t shirt/Overshirt combo and tattoo on your hand (bonus points for praying hands and/or “Nan”) to identify yourself at the AD…..

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    Couldn’t have put it better myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    £45,700. Wow.

    I wouldn’t wear coloured gold and don’t have £45k!
    I meant the Tudor as I’m sure I recall you’ve had a few that quickly departed.

    Reading through the replies it looks like you’re tempted again…

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50kopek View Post
    I appreciate the response, but I'm afraid I wasn't quite serious. I'm not really a fan of the huge escape valve and ring lock text.
    What a disaster in the making.

    IMO, an insult to what was originally created to be used as a dive watch.
    Who in their right mind or not would ever use it as such.
    Though perfectly aware that is not the intension, it just says look how much I have!

    The only piece that I really like is the Cellini range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    The grey black bezel is actually quite nice in real life. IMO of course.
    Even on your pic which is really clear the grey is very subtle. Certainly not as in your face as the BLNR, BLRO or the Green Sprite. A Coke would have been nice, but a lot of online guessers seem to think that will be linked to resting the BLRO so next year at the earliest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    the grey is very subtle. Certainly not as in your face as the BLNR, BLRO or the Green Sprite.
    Yes I think that’s the point. Not everyone will want the loud colours for certain occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    I had thought many in the Middle East would not consider anything in YG tbh! Is it really the go to there???
    Seems to be. For example, just do a web search for 'gold plated cars in Dubai'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    Starting? Just flick through one of those vintage Rolex books, and see what happens in the 80s.
    their current market is different to anything previous as the world is different to anything previous. They may have done something similar in the 80s but we certainly didn't have Instagram back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    their current market is different to anything previous as the world is different to anything previous. They may have done something similar in the 80s but we certainly didn't have Instagram back then.
    True, but if we’re looking for the point when they started pandering to a rich clientele with poor taste, that ship sailed long ago!

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    I understand why people hate it but I think that SG Deepsea is magnificent. Now I'm not saying I'd buy one nor wear it but as a thing it's ace!

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    Too many Jubilee bracelets these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    I meant the Tudor as I’m sure I recall you’ve had a few that quickly departed.

    Reading through the replies it looks like you’re tempted again…
    I am tempted, but last years black bay 41 burgundy lasted 9 days and cost me £650 so I’m in no rush.

    Given how predictable the pattern is with Tudor I’ll probably cave around 2.5-2.8k in a year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    I am tempted, but last years black bay 41 burgundy lasted 9 days and cost me £650 so I’m in no rush.

    Given how predictable the pattern is with Tudor I’ll probably cave around 2.5-2.8k in a year or so.
    Hmmmmm - think you have already (previously) answered the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Hmmmmm - think you have already (previously) answered the question?
    Yep but glutton for punishment

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