Reply With QuoteThis could not have come at a better time. Thanks
Hi All,
Dont know if this has been covered on here but here is some interesting information which could be useful on the much loved iconic Rolex Submariner 14060 & 14060M "None Date"
Make: ROLEX
Model: SUBMARINER
Model: 14060 (M)
Year: 1990 - 2012
Case: 39.5 mm
Dial: BLACK
Movement: 3000/3130
WR: 300m
39.5 mm stainless steel case with polished sides and brushed upper. Rolex Triplock screwed down crown. Water resistant to a depth of 300m (1000ft). Model number located between the lugs at 12 o’clock. Serial number located between the lugs at 6 o’clock. Black dial with unidirectional black aluminium divers bezel. Sapphire crystal. Rolex calibre 3000 automatic movement with 31 jewels. Fully brushed Rolex Oyster bracelet with pressed stainless steel folding clasp and divers extension
In 1998 the 14060 became the 14060M and the movement was upgraded to the Rolex calibre 3130. In 1999 the dial of the 14060M Submariner changed from Tritium to Luminova. In 2007 the 14060M became a certified chronometer and extra text was added to the dial sometimes referred to as COSC, or 4 line, From 2007 the 14060M Submariner was produced with an engraved inner rehault.
BICCHIERINI
1988 - 1999
Serial E, N, X, C, S, W, T, U
14060
Calibre 3000
Lug Holes
Tritium Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS-T<25
Flat Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
LUMI DIAL
2000 - 2008
Serial P, K, Y, F, D
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Two Line Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
REHAUT RRR
2008 - 2010
Serial Z, M,V,G, random
14060M
Calibre 3130
Lug Holes
Superluminova Dial
Four Line "Chronometer Certified" Dial
SWISS MADE
Slim Four Bezel
93150 Bracelet
Personalised Rehaut RRR
Other Information
The Triplelock crown is physically larger than the Twinlock, there is also four separate rubber gaskets as apposed to the two in the Twinlock crown, This is the major factor difference in allowing the Triplelock to be water resistant to a deeper depth, The Triplelock crown is identified by three separate dots beneath the Rolex coronet on the winding crown.
Both the Rolex Submariner 14060 to 14060M... 93150 Bracelets do not have SEL "Sold End Links" or solid center links for this matter,
I will continue to update this and possibly create one for the Rolex Submariner Date 16610, LV & LN, 116610, LV & LN
Cheers
J
This could not have come at a better time. Thanks
Also weren't the run out models of the 14060M from 2012/13 fitted with the same movement as the 114060? Didn't realise that the later 'M' wasn't fitted with solid end links. Very interesting info
You left out the crucial difference, which is the 14060 looks a lot better!
Thanks for this. It's really interesting and useful.
I have a Z serial 14060m with two lines of text.
An anomaly?
Hi RicoOriginally Posted by rico
No anomaly at all, 2007 was the transition year from None COSC to COSC "Two/four line"
The Z serial 14060m with two line that you have was the the first M's at the start of 2007, Later in 2007 the transition was made to COSC,
So in reality its quite a sought after watch as some people prefer the two lines,
Cheers
J
Corrected that for you ;-)
toh may toh, toh mah toh ;)
2011 14060M
Last edited by scrog10; 20th February 2016 at 21:14.
Very nice !!
Some great info there, thanks !
Great watch enjoy
that was an interesting read.
2011 14060M
Great photo, watch looks fab !
Love my 4 liner, imo the best looking of all modern Subs :)
Definitely getting rarer and more expensive though!
Have a 2000 14060, still looks as good today as when I got it
The 14060 m is a lovely watch, and to my eyes , more attractive than the later 114060. That's presumably why it sells for only a few hundred quid less.
However, in fairness, the current model is probably better built as Rolex steadily improve quality, and the bracelet is quite an advance. But it doesn't look as good, which is a shame. The day may come when the 14060M fetches more than the 114060, and quite soon.
Although the 2 liner seems to be highly sought after, which 14060 variant was produced in the smallest numbers ?
My '91 14060.. Love it
I have an F serial 14060M with two lines of text, bought new in 2004, so I don't think yours is an anomoly.
Love my 4 liner cosc.
Perfect watch.
I may be wrong but the last of the 4 liners with the engraved rehaut.
Thanks OP, this should be a sticky.
I believe you're right - the first 4-Liner "Chronometer Certified" 14060M's (Z-Serials) with the engraved rehaut were to my knowledge only produced for a very short period at the end of 2007/beginning of 2008.
Last edited by stelmo01; 26th February 2016 at 13:01.
Thanks guys.......can anyone suggest a production figure for these
Hello Gents
Update hope you find interesting
Rolex Submariner’s “Short Feet Dial” Explained
Compare the two dial images of two different Rolex no date Submariners. The first one is a M serial from 2007, with a normal dial consistent both with the non-COSC dial prior to 2006 and the COSC dial after that. The second picture features a random serial number last issue no date 14060m Submariner, the last serial number before Rolex permanently discontinued this model. Note the way the “ft =” is written on the dial. On the normal dial in the first picture, the “ft” is different in font compared to the second picture, and the “=” in the second dial is almost difficult to see with the naked eye without a loupe. The random serial number 14060m no date Submariner sports this unique small feet dial, and we have seen it universally throughout the G and random serial number no date Submariners
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02.jpg
Thanks
J
^^ different looking 'm' too
Thanks for that, that's really interesting and such a subtle difference I would never have noticed
I've a 2008 Z-serial (with engraved rehaut) that also has a flat feet dial.
I think you're right. Had a quick look at Chrono24 and there seems to be a mixed selection of 14060Ms dating from 2007-2009 with those dials, which would mean their usage would pre-date the G-serials - although looking at the quantity currently for sale I wouldn't consider them rare.
Last edited by stelmo01; 2nd March 2016 at 14:05.
I will do some more research today and see hat I can find.
Help pass the day
My 4 liner with the engraved rehaut appears to be the small "ft" dial and has a V serial number according to the card?
Original purchase date was 2009. I've owned it since about 2012 I think.
Mine is pretty minty , small knick on one of the bracelet end links where my wrist had an argument with a broken banister.
Runs beautifully ( loses 2 secs a day max , but rarely more than 10 secs over the course of a month of normal wrist wear) and by far my favourite watch.
However I may have to sell it soon along with most of my watches as I'm setting up a company...bummer.
I consider it to be almost a perfect watch.
Luminova is a bit weak anyone else find this?
Great bit of info there, good job
Fancy doing one for the 16610 next?
Radium:
Up until about 1960, Rolex used the radio-active material Radium to coat hands and indices of their dials. The Radium markers were extremely efficient where bright luminosity is concerned, but also much more radio-active than the successor, Tritium.
Workers at the Rolex manufactory and other watch and clock shops, applied the Radium by hand; or rather by using a fine painting brush. To apply the Radium exactly to the places where it was supposed to be, workers would tend to lick the tip of the painting brush to get a sharper point, thus being better able to apply more accurately the Radium. This habit of licking the painting brush resulted in numerous cases of workers getting cancer, especially mouth cancer. But as stated, Radium was used up until 1960, where popular use finally ceased due to serious health risks.
The dials having Radium as luminous markers would read "SWISS" at six o' clock.
Tritium:
Tritium was used from 1960 to 1998. Also being radio-active, but more mildly so (beta waves). The half-life is approx. 12.3 years. After that, Tritium (in most cases) will not glow anymore.
There were two degrees of Tritium dials:
a) the dials emitting radio-activity of less than 25 mC. Dials are marked "SWISS T < 25"
b) the dial emitting radio-activity of less than 7,5 mC. Dials are marked "T SWISS T".
To describe the intensity of the radio-activity of the Tritium markers, a thin sheet of Aluminium is able to block Tritium beta waves. Thus, the Oyster case and crystal were said to be sufficient guard to prevent any harmful radiation to the wearer of the watch. The radiation a person gets from the normal background radiation found in nature exceeds the radiation emitted from a "T < 25" dial.
As a side note: Besides the "half-life degression" of the Tritium, hands and indices applied with Tritium have often been known to discolour to a more brownish tone by age. Some say that factors like UV rays and humidity play a role. Therefore, not ALL Tritium dials discolour. It depends on what environment the dial / watch was kept in.
(Super)Luminova:
A Japanese invention from the company Nemoto, the non radio-active substance, Luminova, was introduced in 1998 when Tritium was (at least widely) banned. Time spans for the use of Luminoa is:
a) 1998 - 2000: Dials (again) marked "SWISS" at 6 o' clock
b) 2000 - : Dials marked "SWISS MADE" at 6 o' clock.
The terms "SuperLuminova" and "Luminova" describe the same paint compound. Technically, there is no difference between the two, but "SuperLuminova" is a term reserved by Nemoto's European partner, Tritec.
SuperLuminova is not (yet!) known to discolour by age. But SuperLuminova is quite fragile and does not like humidity which can make it crumble. Some companies solve this issue by applying a thin coat of clear lacquer to the markers of the dial.
Start one over the weekend,
Very interesting G2 serial with the later thick font lettering and coronet on this 14060M Sub.
Did the 14060 not get the luminova "Swiss" dial in the very late nineties along with the other models?
Yes, they came in Swiss only dial A serial as well. I have owned every retail version of the 14060, probably at the same time. The cosc was for sale from 2007-2011.
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I have two parachrome versions in my collection for the long haul
It's just a matter of time...
Nice read ta,
My U series T<25 with its older brother.
I have just bought an A series 14060, literally just now, and from the pictures it says "Swiss made" is this right?
2000 onwards with superluminova plots.
I'm not up on serial numbers but it's not an early 14060.
Yeah it's a 1999/2000 with luminova and definitely says Swiss made
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Glad this got resurrected, it's interesting to see what changed when.
I thought an A Series should be "SWISS" only, not "SWISS MADE"?
Great info! Appreciated!
Most would be, but I guess it's possible, if it was to the end of the serial - but I couldn't say for certain. All replaced dials would be Swiss made though.
It's just a matter of time...
This is the A serial I've bought, says Swiss made.
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Out of curiosity, what is the current service dial for a 14060 assuming Rolex were to replace an early 90's Tritium dial, do they still have a stock of two-liner dials?
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