Reply With QuoteHey thats £698 more than I will be getting this christmas, you should be able to get a nice beater for that :wink:
£1000 - and how much of this did I take home.................£698 :mad:
I realise we all have to pay tax, but come on FFS
Hey thats £698 more than I will be getting this christmas, you should be able to get a nice beater for that :wink:
Cheers
Simon
Ralph Waldo Emerson: We ask for long life, but 'tis deep life, or noble moments that signify. Let the measure of time be spiritual, not mechanical.
I think that I get an extra 100 quid or so for doing 4 or so days worth of admissions work. And grateful to have it too! :)
Best wishes,
Bob
ouchie,you won't be visiting scruples then ? :wink:
cheers,mick
I'm conscious folk have not even got a job so I shouldn't moan too much. But don't you get the feeling we're being had for the fat lads :(
All going to pay my credit card of.
Scruples lol .......... not a chance. £698 would get me shirt and a pair of trousers if I'm lucky. More likely Humberstones over the road :P
Surely it warms the cockles of your heart that the government will spend it so wisely? :twisted: I guess a high rate tax payer would only get £470 of that £1000 (40% tax & 13% NI)? Amazes me anyone gets out of bed in the morning to be honest! :lol:
"I looked with pity not untinged with scorn upon these trivial-minded passers-by"
humberstones??assume the postion,bend over - pants down :lol:
cheers,mick
Not too bad Mick. I got my PO there. £300 off without really asking.Originally Posted by mickylall
Like I say, credit card's got it. I do fancy a nice vintage Seiko or dare I say Citizen chronograph.
though.
Something like this -
or this
Could be worse you could have a student loan as well, in the unlikely event of me ever getting a bonus £1000, I think I'd clear £545, and I'm a lower rate tax payer
Ahhh..Christmas Bonuses...i've heard tell of such things. Never seen one myself :(
It's better than a kick up the arse.
Don't be too upset if you don't get a bonus. Console yourself by reasoning that instead of a bonus, you get a higher basic salary which is a) guaranteed and b) pensionable.
I get my 'Christmas' bonus in February, when the previous year's results are declared (i.e. Q1 - Q4). After deductions, I receive about 61% of my bonus (I'm a higher rate tax payer).
....are you in banking? Gotta ask that before I decide which fence to mount!!! :D
Engineering, and I'm not a higher rate tax payer :wink:....are you in banking? Gotta ask that before I decide which fence to mount!!! :D
I took home £2100 bonus, could not care less how much tax I paid because it was what is says "A BONUS" 8)
So this on top on my salary = Great Christmas 8)
Merry Christmas
Mart
A few years ago my wife got a Christmas bonus at work, she is a nurse. It was a Mars bar, all the ward staff got one, I kid you not.
Public sector, doing things on the cheap.
The fact that I'm well paid for my role is a relief, although at 34 I have 3 degrees and am embarking on my last set of exams in Feb (4th and final degree). My first set of exams was 27 years ago and I've been doing them roughly every three years since then (by choice).
Merry Christmas.
Bonus? What's a bonus? :?
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
And whats a pay rise? as i haven't had one for two years!
Tax is a bitch though :evil:
Bonus
Definition:
1. unexpected extra: an extra unexpected advantage
So itsd still £698 that you never had!! If you want another bonus post me your Planet Ocean and Ill give you a Christmas PO Bonus!
RIAC
Two?And whats a pay rise? as i haven't had one for two years!
Tax is a bitch though :evil:
Twelve! :shock:
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
I'll trade your bonus for mine if you like?
Chris
A few years ago my wife got a Christmas bonus at work, she is a nurse. It was a Mars bar, all the ward staff got one, I kid you not.
Public sector, doing things on the cheap.
The fact that I'm well paid for my role is a relief, although at 34 I have 3 degrees and am embarking on my last set of exams in Feb (4th and final degree). My first set of exams was 27 years ago and I've been doing them roughly every three years since then (by choice).
Merry Christmas.
All those Qualifications and you can't spell Leeds? :wink: :lol:
Merry Christmas back to you :bigsmurf:
BONUSES.....dont get as self employed. My staff dont get either as well paid thru year. If you live in Leeds...thats how you say it (footie chanting?)
Don't mention feckin' tax. Last Chrimbo I got an £8000 bonus and I had £5200 left. I did the hard work yet the government seems to be entitled to a vast cut of my salary. :(
We get a bottle of wine.......but, I am home based and have been told I need a legitimate business reason to go to the office because funds are tighter than you know what. So I can't even collect it!!
£8k would be nice, even if it is taxed :D
I never forget how lucky I am mate, I work hard as do all my staff and my MD, but we reap the rewards. The lowest Chrimbo bonus we've ever paid to a full time trained employee is £1800. It's amazing how much loyalty is gained from paying decent bonuses, it really focuses the mind. :)
I agree with this, shame my company doesn't seem to take this view all the time :evil: , we find out in Feb our bonuses not expecting much.I never forget how lucky I am mate, I work hard as do all my staff and my MD, but we reap the rewards. The lowest Chrimbo bonus we've ever paid to a full time trained employee is £1800. It's amazing how much loyalty is gained from paying decent bonuses, it really focuses the mind. :)
To be honest we're rolling the Christmas bonus over to the mid-year bonus this time (mid year bonuses here are about 33% of the gross annual bonus with the other 67% paid at Christmas), not because of the recession, but because we're relocating our business to our new premises and the cost of additional staff and transport has challenged our cash flow. As everyone here knows their bonus is safe (albeit delayed), there's no bad feelings.
something board level directors get to buy a helicopter/boat/house in switzerland* delete as applicable after a really good sales year. Bonus generally derived from pleading poverty and not giving the staff a pay rise this year!
No that I'm bitter :wink:
Bonuses frozen this year and last :(
Still, at least the work is enjoyable...
...oh, hang on a minute :?
Could be worse your christmas bonus could be an extra 20 min phone call and your first fresh food for 8 weeks!!!!!
RIAC
Corrected that for you :twisted:something board level directors get to buy a helicopter/boat/house in switzerland* delete as applicable after a [s:3svt43yd]really good[/s:3svt43yd] [s:3svt43yd]good[/s:3svt43yd] sales year. Bonus generally derived from pleading poverty and not giving the staff a pay rise this year!
I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Always pisses me off this ''BONUS'' culture...i work and get a wage for the hours i work, I DON'T GET and DON'T EXPECT A BONUS,and i would like to ask why anyone feels they should be rewarded with a bonus,with particular requests for an answer from any million plus bonus from the banking fraternity.
but seriously we all work the hours we work for the salary we recieve,if you feel the bonus is a top up to your salary then look for a job that pays the appropriate salary for the work/hours you work,if not join the ''Q'' at the local job centre,and pass on the info re the job to all the guys that will gladly work for ALOT LESS AND NO FECKING BONUS!.
i earn good money and have no mortage now, but this bonus crap really does piss me off so much.
Never had a bonus in my life, a couple of pens and stuff, that's all.
C.
Always pisses me off this ''BONUS'' culture...i work and get a wage for the hours i work, I DON'T GET and DON'T EXPECT A BONUS,and i would like to ask why anyone feels they should be rewarded with a bonus,with particular requests for an answer from any million plus bonus from the banking fraternity.
but seriously we all work the hours we work for the salary we recieve,if you feel the bonus is a top up to your salary then look for a job that pays the appropriate salary for the work/hours you work,if not join the ''Q'' at the local job centre,and pass on the info re the job to all the guys that will gladly work for ALOT LESS AND NO FECKING BONUS!.
i earn good money and have no mortage now, but this bonus crap really does piss me off so much.
If you look back you will see I was very grateful for my Bonus. I am on a salary and I have to be honest I am happy with what they pay me. That said when a company gives you very hard targets (we call them KPI - Key Performance Indicators) with the incentive of a bonus at the end of it then it does make the overtime and weekend call out (that I do not get paid for) worth while.
Again I was chuffed to bits with my bonus 8)
Mart
Did all as you do for a large water company 8 years ago....and never a bonus to be had,infact the small 1k bonus is less than what you should have recieved had you had it as salary for hours worked and callout.Always pisses me off this ''BONUS'' culture...i work and get a wage for the hours i work, I DON'T GET and DON'T EXPECT A BONUS,and i would like to ask why anyone feels they should be rewarded with a bonus,with particular requests for an answer from any million plus bonus from the banking fraternity.
but seriously we all work the hours we work for the salary we recieve,if you feel the bonus is a top up to your salary then look for a job that pays the appropriate salary for the work/hours you work,if not join the ''Q'' at the local job centre,and pass on the info re the job to all the guys that will gladly work for ALOT LESS AND NO FECKING BONUS!.
i earn good money and have no mortage now, but this bonus crap really does piss me off so much.
If you look back you will see I was very grateful for my Bonus. I am on a salary and I have to be honest I am happy with what they pay me. That said when a company gives you very hard targets (we call them KPI - Key Performance Indicators) with the incentive of a bonus at the end of it then it does make the overtime and weekend call out (that I do not get paid for) worth while.
Again I was chuffed to bits with my bonus 8)
Mart
See now I was being polite but you are now talking out your ar*e. How the hell do you know how many unpaid hours I work. I am contracted to 37.5 and regulary work 60 hour weeks and also on call every weekend. You are even getting the posters mixed up :roll: I took home 2.1k and this is one of four I receive a year as long as I reach my KPI's.Did all as you do for a large water company 8 years ago....and never a bonus to be had,infact the small 1k bonus is less than what you should have recieved had you had it as salary for hours worked and callout.Always pisses me off this ''BONUS'' culture...i work and get a wage for the hours i work, I DON'T GET and DON'T EXPECT A BONUS,and i would like to ask why anyone feels they should be rewarded with a bonus,with particular requests for an answer from any million plus bonus from the banking fraternity.
but seriously we all work the hours we work for the salary we recieve,if you feel the bonus is a top up to your salary then look for a job that pays the appropriate salary for the work/hours you work,if not join the ''Q'' at the local job centre,and pass on the info re the job to all the guys that will gladly work for ALOT LESS AND NO FECKING BONUS!.
i earn good money and have no mortage now, but this bonus crap really does piss me off so much.
If you look back you will see I was very grateful for my Bonus. I am on a salary and I have to be honest I am happy with what they pay me. That said when a company gives you very hard targets (we call them KPI - Key Performance Indicators) with the incentive of a bonus at the end of it then it does make the overtime and weekend call out (that I do not get paid for) worth while.
Again I was chuffed to bits with my bonus 8)
Mart
Rattled someones cage here me thinks......just wanted to say my piece re the ''BONUS'' culture,i personally think we should get paid only for the hours we work, to include overtime/callout or any other ''WORK'' whilst in your employment and not some sort of built in BONUS system.{i might add that seems NOT to filter down to the workforce.....typically! or by %}
i think most will understand what i mean,i may have as you pointed out made a ''mistake'' re the sum of money!, i do not wish to make it a personal thing,it is only MY opinion on the topic posted....AND THAT IS AND WAS ALL I RESPONDED TO,if a person submits a posting please be advised that given human nature WILL result in a response,and if a response is not welcomed!,then please try to refrain from the temptation to submit one's post!!!!!!,the resulting replies may offend.
Merry Christmas to all.
Just to say this is the first post i saw and responded to,this was where my mention of the 1k came from Taffy old boy.
Rgds
Paul
My wife sorts out our company's accounts. She's never given me a bonus..... :cry: :roll: :shock:
There's nothing wrong with a properly run (individual) performance related bonus scheme. In a flat salary scheme, the hard workers get paid the same as those who think turning up in the morning is good enough.
No No No...those who think that turning up is ''just enough'' is not,and the guy that run's the company deals with the sherkers in the appropriate manner,ie inform them of there shortfalls in the correct and legal way ultimately getting rid of such dead wood and SACK THEM!,but unfortunately we live in a country that dare not upset anyone at all levels for fear of being sued etc etc, and this is why everything perpetuates and never gets any better and all the good people are crapped on from a great height.
It's much easier to sack someone in the UK than virtually all other EU countries. All an employer needs to do is have a well thought out contract with the employee with some sweeping statements ( i.e including but not limited to etc) in it about what constitutes a breach of terms and then follow a standard disciplinary procedure in order to get shot of someone. The only recourse for the employee is a tribunal who are likely to find against the plaintiff if these have been followed. The sensible option for an employee is to leave after the 1st written warning and go to tribunal on a constructive dismissal basis. Most cases never actually get to tribunal anyway as companies will settle just beforehand, normally for a few months salary, but it can be more if the plaintiff's case is particluarly strong. They will do this to avoid bad publicity should they lose, and the plaintiff will be required to sign a compromise agreement that stops them commenting publicly about the terms of thier dismissal. The actuality is that if employers know their stuff and follow the correct process dismissing an employee is pretty straight forward and will not cost much other than HR/Legal's time, and if if they do end up at tribunal they will probably only have to pay a few grand to settle. Even if their work shy employee is on the national average wage this still makes sense from an economic perspective.but unfortunately we live in a country that dare not upset anyone at all levels for fear of being sued etc etc
I bet if you worked for me, and at the end of the year I sat down and chatted to you in a private meeting and awarded you a £5000 bonus for working harder than expected, you'd probably view a bonus scheme in a different light.
If my staff do their jobs satisfactorily then they take their wage home. If they exceed expectations in any of the areas we consider when calculating potential bonuses, then we pay a bonus based on that. No expectation exceeded, no bonus. It's an incentive system, and it breeds long term loyalty, mutual respect, financial well-being and a stronger company.
+1 :wink:I bet if you worked for me, and at the end of the year I sat down and chatted to you in a private meeting and awarded you a £5000 bonus for working harder than expected, you'd probably view a bonus scheme in a different light.
If my staff do their jobs satisfactorily then they take their wage home. If they exceed expectations in any of the areas we consider when calculating potential bonuses, then we pay a bonus based on that. No expectation exceeded, no bonus. It's an incentive system, and it breeds long term loyalty, mutual respect, financial well-being and a stronger company.
If when you advertise a new position in your company with a fare wage for the hours, you should get the right calibre of people apply for the position, it is then upto the person employing them to ascertain as to whether their huge knowledge has the capability to see thru there bullshit at the interview stage!,otherwise you have been duped into employing someone not upto the standards you want/expect.sorry but will never accept the bonus system,and my main reason for my strong dislike is the bankers getting a huge bonus for a HUGE mistake,if i make a mistake in my job i get the sack,they make a mistake,they get a huge pay off and a friend offers them a position in another company only to do it again....i hope they rot in hell the tossers.I bet if you worked for me, and at the end of the year I sat down and chatted to you in a private meeting and awarded you a £5000 bonus for working harder than expected, you'd probably view a bonus scheme in a different light.
If my staff do their jobs satisfactorily then they take their wage home. If they exceed expectations in any of the areas we consider when calculating potential bonuses, then we pay a bonus based on that. No expectation exceeded, no bonus. It's an incentive system, and it breeds long term loyalty, mutual respect, financial well-being and a stronger company.
I bet if you worked for me, and at the end of the year I sat down and chatted to you in a private meeting and awarded you a £5000 bonus for working harder than expected, you'd probably view a bonus scheme in a different light.
If my staff do their jobs satisfactorily then they take their wage home. If they exceed expectations in any of the areas we consider when calculating potential bonuses, then we pay a bonus based on that. No expectation exceeded, no bonus. It's an incentive system, and it breeds long term loyalty, mutual respect, financial well-being and a stronger company.
Sounds good to me. Not sure how much I will be receiving by way of bonus but I do know all the staff will enjoy theirs. Having said that people who 'expect' a bonus after losing hundreds of millions of pounds need a year living in Kibera slums Kenya. :wink:
I bet if you worked for me, and at the end of the year I sat down and chatted to you in a private meeting and awarded you a £5000 bonus for working harder than expected, you'd probably view a bonus scheme in a different light.
And you would take me into your ''private meeting'' and tell me i have worked above and beyond YOUR expectations and award me 5k!,or NOT take me into ''private meeting'' and say sweet FA and pocket the 5k yourself!, me knowing sweet FA about any impending BONUS coming in my direction,as you take a well earned holiday in the Caribbean in the cold months with your ''workers'' harder earned bonus.
generalising and being synical here, but with a large amount of what i think may be the truth too.
A little bit, yes :lol:
You obviously have a very real grievance so please don't take offence :wink:
In general - bonuses are awarded for earning the employer significantly more than targeted. They are not awarded after private meetings, they are a known situation which is often designed to earn the company money and reward the employees that do that.
Often misunderstood and misrepresented (occasionally misguided) and not something I have ever enjoyed.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
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