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    New 50 Post Ruling

    Re 50 post ruling in sales.

    This is not meant as a gripe or to cause offence, but I have recently missed out on 2 watches that have been for grabs on the sales forum.

    I fully understand the reason for the ruling, but surely us less than 50 posters must at least be able to contact the seller via the post topic and not through the less than reliable PM/Email system.

    In both cases I tried to contact the sellers via PM/Email but with no luck resulting in the watches being missed.

    Is it not possible that low posters can at least buy before the 50 mark.

    I have bought and sold to/from members and Time Factors on this forum with supeb results.

    Moan over

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    You have to make just 17 more posts and then your concerns will be over ... there will be lots of other watches in future ... wish you well

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    PM's are not that unreliable - but it must be frustrating...................sure the 50 will pass fairly quickly :wink:
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by BRGRSP
    Is it not possible that low posters can at least buy before the 50 mark.
    Eddie has already explained this.......... this is the way the modification works
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    As some people have pointed out, the post count modification has now been installed on the forum (thanks Graham). From today, members with a post count below 50 will be unable to access "Sales Corner". This isn't a case of "rules for rules' sake", it's to stop the recent significant influx of people joining just to treat Sales Corner like a free version of eBay, people who are unknown to us and may not be offering a risk-free transaction.

    The modification is "all or nothing" and there is no facility for any exemptions. Please do not start threads saying that you can't access Sales Corner, it's happened and won't be changed. Such threads, and threads whose only purpose is to increase post counts will be deleted.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    glad I've reached 50

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I came here from across the pond (electronically) to be able to converse with fellow watch enthusiasts. I never bothered to check my post count. Seems to me that if you have something to contribute to the watch community that shares information here, that a 50 post requirement would go by very, very quickly. Why even think about it?

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    ive never had a problem with the PM system, maybe the watches had already gone before you sent the PM??? I think this is a good addition to the site should put scammers off on this site. That can only be a good thing noone here wants to be ripped off.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Try clicking on their profile and just PMing them or e-mailing them from there. I didn't know the mod interfered with the ability to send a PM from the thread, but it isn't hard to get round.
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I bought two items before the new ruling, now I cant but this will add +1 to get me nearer being able to buy again :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by t955daytona
    I bought two items before the new ruling, now I cant but this will add +1 to get me nearer being able to buy again :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
    Once again:
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Please do not start threads saying that you can't access Sales Corner, it's happened and won't be changed. Such threads, and threads whose only purpose is to increase post counts will be deleted.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    It was starting to get tedious the number of times ppl popped up on the SC that nobody knew, some a bit dodgy and a few using it as a free ebay. I don't think Eddie had any choice really.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by NJH
    It was starting to get tedious the number of times ppl popped up on the SC that nobody knew, some a bit dodgy and a few using it as a free ebay. I don't think Eddie had any choice really.
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Don't understand why the poster couldnt successfully bid via PM - any seller will be checking their mail as most thread bids consist of pm references anyway.

    Or have I missed something?

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by IanK
    Don't understand why the poster couldnt successfully bid via PM - any seller will be checking their mail as most thread bids consist of pm references anyway.

    Or have I missed something?
    Maybe the seller took the messages in timely order, sold to the first offer he had and didn't replied to the other bidders except changing the item status to "SOLD". Nothing I won't do. :roll:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    The rule is there for a good reason and makes sense.I'll be posting more frequently because of it.
    Cheers!

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Am i missing something... or is it really that difficult to sit for an hour or two and generate 50 posts ???

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    not according to a few of them on here :D :D


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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    ^^^LOL^^^

    See lads, all you have to do is reply to your own comments and up the counter goes !!

    Woohoo 1500 on the nose bada-bing :D

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    i think it should be 100 posts :blackeye:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    This will get me 1 nearer to being able to buy aain....cash is burning a hole :lol: :lol:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I've just deleted 14 posts from on individual in "Reviews". He just quoted the whole of the original review and made comments like "Cool", "Great", "Good review".

    Did he think he would get away with it?

    Does he think I have nothing better to do?

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    There will be a lot of posts that have no information or point. Like this post :D
    This forum is becoming a closed community. The members who are not active can not sell. In my opinion there should be some addition to this rule. For example 50 posts or you should be a member for some time. For example 1,5 years.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I have read this with interest. I started off on the wrong foot with Eddie with an ill informed comment about the PM function (wrong forum and I had failed to understand the way the forum worked). I'm delighted to have been given a "second chance" as I was a long term lurker on here but as a few have said, perhaps feared whether I had much to contribute! My "coming out" was in order to buy a very nice JLC Reserve de Marche from Orange Peel - a transaction that went extremely well and a great addition to my family!

    As such, and as a member with fewer than 50 posts (and who will not be posting "cool", "nice watch" etc :D to get my post count up) I might be expected to be an "anti" this new rule. In fact, I agree completely with what Eddie has done (all sounds rather sycophantic doesn't it!) as I think, and see myself, a relatively significant influx of newer posters.

    It is no real hardship, indeed, I wouldn't feel one could object if it were longer still. If someone is a genuine enthusiast they will get there sooner or later, and their hanging around demonstrates staying power which has to be all to the good of the forum and to, Eddie's business, which after all, is what this is.

    His forum, his rules. No problem from me here. Indeed, I welcome it.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Jesus christ i've just reached the Gordon Brown icon level !! :shock:

    That's it, i'm away to post in every f-ing thread i find till he's gone!!!!

    How many do i need?? Around 1750??

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ajeekarate
    There will be a lot of posts that have no information or point. Like this post :D
    This forum is becoming a closed community. The members who are not active can not sell. In my opinion there should be some addition to this rule. For example 50 posts or you should be a member for some time. For example 1,5 years.
    This is not true. The SC isn't the forum, it's a service for the forum members. Buying and selling doesn't make you part of the forum, contributing and joining in does.
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Did I start all this whining? Can't help thinking that Eddie read my post in a thread in early September started by Ditchdigger titled 'SALES CORNER is it time to just let people get on with it?'.

    This is what I wrote:
    I know the users rank status is a bit of fun but the rules could state that members ranked corporal should not be allowed to post a sale item.
    Anyway whether I influenced Eddie's decision or not I still stick by it. The rule is obviously going to wind a few newbies up but so what. To quote Eddie:

    The forum is for the discussion of watches and some friendly banter. Sales corner is an add-on for members to dispose of surplus items, be they watches, straps, sofas, cars, hi-fi or whatever but access to Sales Corner should not be the primary or sole reason for becoming a member of TZ-UK.
    It seems clear cut to me, those that find the new mod annoying are those that have for the primary or sole reason to access the sales corner.

    So stop whining, join in, you might enjoy it. And if you save a few quid by not being able to access the SC all the better.

    Chris.

    PS. I'd be happy to see this and any other '50 Post' threads deleted from the Watch Talk forum, it's not really watch talk is it.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Even though I am below the 50 post threshold, I agree with what Eddie is doing. I am a member of a number of forums, many unrelated to watches, where I regularly post. It is always annoying when people who do not contribute to the community, dive in only to benefit from the sales sections. I think this goes against the principal of providing community facilities and expertise for like-minded people.

    Good call Eddie !

    Now I need to get my post count up :wink:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    You just have to look at the number of interesting and informative posts made recently by people counts with less than 50, to know that the restriction is a good thing. I suspect a lot of these new posters just want to see Sales Corner, rather than sell stuff there, which is twice as good. Let's hope they continue tp post once they reach 50.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by redmond
    i think it should be 100 posts :blackeye:
    Agreed :blackeye:
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Best get posting.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ajeekarate
    There will be a lot of posts that have no information or point. Like this post :D
    This forum is becoming a closed community. The members who are not active can not sell. In my opinion there should be some addition to this rule. For example 50 posts or you should be a member for some time. For example 1,5 years.
    If a member is not active then how can he/she sell? Catch 22 here.
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Also if someone is hardly ever active is anyone going to risk buying of them?

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I've just deleted 14 posts from on individual in "Reviews". He just quoted the whole of the original review and made comments like "Cool", "Great", "Good review".

    Did he think he would get away with it?

    Does he think I have nothing better to do?

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Maybe the rule should be to have a certain percent of your posts in a certain subgrouping of sub-fora. This should be able to be done automatically.

    Then not disclose the required percentage and the required fora!

    Then you kind'a have to be an "all-around member" to gain access to the sale forum.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    would you believe it!
    looks like the same guy eddie had to deal with has only gone and done it again!!

    fun and games, gotta be dumb though?!


    cheers
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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408
    would you believe it!
    looks like the same guy eddie had to deal with has only gone and done it again!!

    fun and games, gotta be dumb though?!


    cheers
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    Yes, another 20 minutes to clean up :evil: . There won't be anymore for at least 7 days though. :twisted:

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry
    Jesus christ i've just reached the Gordon Brown icon level !! :shock:

    That's it, i'm away to post in every f-ing thread i find till he's gone!!!!

    How many do i need?? Around 1750??
    I discovered the same thing has happend to me... :(

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I've been a lurker for a number of years, and a member for about six months. I've have begun to contribute due to the 50 post rule.
    99 % of us are WIS's and belong to a number of forums. Most of us, if we met at the pub, would enjoy conversation and fellowship with our WIS brethren.
    The "rule", while limiting some free market activity, makes sense due to the virtual nature of our community. The SC stuff, while always worth it, is secondary to the people who make this forum worth joining.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    I can't stand people who post stupid non-watch related stuff or dumb smilies as the whole post!
























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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Will somebody please sell me 49 of their post's if at all possible.

    Only joking Eddie .

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Another vote for the 50 posts - almost there now. I lurked for ages, and to begin with only posted if I thought I had something to add, which wasn't often. So the slight unintended consequence is, I guess, that the established posters have to wade through the make-weights made by people like me who want to have access to SC, as a buyer in my case.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by goz211
    The rule is there for a good reason and makes sense.I'll be posting more frequently because of it.
    Cheers!
    Agreed...me too. :D

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    would it be possible to be able to only post replies to topics in SC whilst under 50? Sometimes there's some interesting discussions or questions you wanted to ask but cant.

    good rule all in all though.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 744ER
    would it be possible to be able to only post replies to topics in SC whilst under 50? Sometimes there's some interesting discussions or questions you wanted to ask but cant.

    good rule all in all though.


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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    It is a shame missing out on the fantastic watches and deals that the sub-50 members have for sale. These end up having to be sold on other forum.

    Whilst I have nothing to sell, I think it is regrettable that all members here are being restricted to purchasing only from the established members. Why not let anyone sell watch related items and limit the sale of cars, kettles, handbags, etc to the 50+ 'ers.

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey Queen
    It is a shame missing out on the fantastic watches and deals that the sub-50 members have for sale. These end up having to be sold on other forum.

    Whilst I have nothing to sell, I think it is regrettable that all members here are being restricted to purchasing only from the established members. Why not let anyone sell watch related items and limit the sale of cars, kettles, handbags, etc to the 50+ 'ers.
    i think you are missing the point of why this 50 post was instigated in the first place, if you look back at the topics covering this i think it will become clear why.


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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    i think you are missing the point of why this 50 post was instigated in the first place, if you look back at the topics covering this i think it will become clear why.

    cheers
    mike :wink:
    No, I haven't 'missed the point'. I'm just expressing my view. Whether or not it agrees with your view or anybody else's view is irrelevant.

    Over the next few weeks and months, for reasons that will be obvious, there is every chance that there will be some distressed sales - especially in the city. These individuals can either pop into Blowers and get a lowball offer or find this site and offer it to our members for a mutually great deal. Oh but wait, that can't happen, 50 post and all that. Guess that'll make Blowers happy. :lol:

    http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/index.htm

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey Queen
    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    i think you are missing the point of why this 50 post was instigated in the first place, if you look back at the topics covering this i think it will become clear why.

    cheers
    mike :wink:
    No, I haven't 'missed the point'. I'm just expressing my view. Whether or not it agrees with your view or anybody else's view is irrelevant.
    as i said I THINK you are missing the point, no need to get arsey with me fella, because it wont do you any good



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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Just had a sales idea!

    How about only allowing only customers access to SC, i.e.those who have bought a PRS from Eddie!

    This rule may well prove why I never had a future in sales or marketing :( (or politics)

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    Re: New 50 Post Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408

    as i said I THINK you are missing the point, no need to get arsey with me fella, because it wont do you any good

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