Reply With QuoteYep, I've been through many models of both brands. Quality is excellent on either...just a matter of personal preference on the brand.Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli
I’d disagree but hey, we all have our own preferences.
Yep, I've been through many models of both brands. Quality is excellent on either...just a matter of personal preference on the brand.
Not just you.Could just be me...
I think other versions of the BB are better looking.
I was interested in the differences, so here is a rough idea of what I saw in comparison
I cut one of the Black Bay (BB) images from earlier in the thread (thank you, my apologies for nicking it), and added one of my snowflake (SF), merged them to be roughly the same size.
Going round the dial from 12.
- Around 2 o'clock (BB) and 9 (SF). The Hour hand on the BB extends beyond the inside edge of the quarter markers, making the hands look large, even though the rough proportions of the hands on the dial are very similar
- At 20 min, you see that the SF hour markers are embedded into the length of the minute markers (they are trimmed to suit), emptying the centre of the dial. By comparison, the BB markers are totally inside the (untrimmed) minute markers by a distance
- At 30 minutes, you see that the SF minute markers extend beyond the visible dial, and that the Swiss script is again embedded into the minute track. The BB has a large black stripe outside the minute track, where the Swiss script is
- As a result, at 42 mins, you see that the distance between the edge of the minute track and the inside of the bezel on both is substantially different
- It is also worth noting that on the BB photo, the index surrounds are almost black, not reflecting light. If they were reflecting, they would look substantially larger, making the dial look even more crowded
- And finally, in the centre of the dial, the dial script is broad shouldered and narrow hipped on the SF, and pear-shaped on the BB, making it look heavier
As a result of all this, for a similar dial size (I know I have not been exact, but am pressed for a little time here), the SF has a very much emptier dial centre, but the BBs main indices are crammed in there, in "sphinctery congestion" as the Earl put it so poetically.
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This picture might make it a bit easier with the exact same time as yoursI was interested in the differences, so here is a rough idea of what I saw in comparison
I cut one of the Black Bay (BB) images from earlier in the thread (thank you, my apologies for nicking it), and added one of my snowflake (SF), merged them to be roughly the same size.
Going round the dial from 12.
- Around 2 o'clock (BB) and 9 (SF). The Hour hand on the BB extends beyond the inside edge of the quarter markers, making the hands look large, even though the rough proportions of the hands on the dial are very similar
- At 20 min, you see that the SF hour markers are embedded into the length of the minute markers (they are trimmed to suit), emptying the centre of the dial. By comparison, the BB markers are totally inside the (untrimmed) minute markers by a distance
- At 30 minutes, you see that the SF minute markers extend beyond the visible dial, and that the Swiss script is again embedded into the minute track. The BB has a large black stripe outside the minute track, where the Swiss script is
- As a result, at 42 mins, you see that the distance between the edge of the minute track and the inside of the bezel on both is substantially different
- It is also worth noting that on the BB photo, the index surrounds are almost black, not reflecting light. If they were reflecting, they would look substantially larger, making the dial look even more crowded
- And finally, in the centre of the dial, the dial script is broad shouldered and narrow hipped on the SF, and pear-shaped on the BB, making it look heavier
As a result of all this, for a similar dial size (I know I have not been exact, but am pressed for a little time here), the SF has a very much emptier dial centre, but the BBs main indices are crammed in there, in "sphinctery congestion" as the Earl put it so poetically.
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I’m not sure how practical it is to compare new with something that old. Compare a 5513 to a 14060 or either of the two to a 124060 anything newer is an abomination. Recreations are different story.
For my money (but not my wrists) the BB54 is the nicest modern Tudor they’ve made to date. Take the sunburst off the P39 or add a bracelet to the black FXD and I might change my mind.
99% chance this Tudor will end the same way all my previous Tudors have. Want to love them but unable to accept them for what they are.
However, what are the thoughts on the Rolex Sub price at twice the sum?! Is it really twice the watch?
This does look nice, but as others have said £4K is a touch high.
That is until I see it in the metal
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Some interesting observations there. Overall I like the look. This is the first Tudor that I’ve been seriously considering buying.I was interested in the differences, so here is a rough idea of what I saw in comparison
I cut one of the Black Bay (BB) images from earlier in the thread (thank you, my apologies for nicking it), and added one of my snowflake (SF), merged them to be roughly the same size.
Going round the dial from 12.
- Around 2 o'clock (BB) and 9 (SF). The Hour hand on the BB extends beyond the inside edge of the quarter markers, making the hands look large, even though the rough proportions of the hands on the dial are very similar
- At 20 min, you see that the SF hour markers are embedded into the length of the minute markers (they are trimmed to suit), emptying the centre of the dial. By comparison, the BB markers are totally inside the (untrimmed) minute markers by a distance
- At 30 minutes, you see that the SF minute markers extend beyond the visible dial, and that the Swiss script is again embedded into the minute track. The BB has a large black stripe outside the minute track, where the Swiss script is
- As a result, at 42 mins, you see that the distance between the edge of the minute track and the inside of the bezel on both is substantially different
- It is also worth noting that on the BB photo, the index surrounds are almost black, not reflecting light. If they were reflecting, they would look substantially larger, making the dial look even more crowded
- And finally, in the centre of the dial, the dial script is broad shouldered and narrow hipped on the SF, and pear-shaped on the BB, making it look heavier
As a result of all this, for a similar dial size (I know I have not been exact, but am pressed for a little time here), the SF has a very much emptier dial centre, but the BBs main indices are crammed in there, in "sphinctery congestion" as the Earl put it so poetically.
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Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Here’s a good comparison of the new style BB41 vs the new style Breitling superocean
The BB41 is burgundy so the only difference is the colour.
https://youtu.be/e-N2szGRgTM
Yeap, dial, case thickness, bracelet, lack of depreciation. Why anybody would buy the new version is beyond me.Still one of Tudors best.....imo.
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Last edited by Stilgoe1972; 27th April 2024 at 15:43.
Having handled the new Tudor, I’d say absolutely not. The Tudors “no date sub vibe” is strong. Granted the finishings not as fine, but for me definitely not half the watch.
That Breitling minute hand is terrible
Do you ever have the Tudor P01? That is the one I always toyed with getting (strap issues aside)
Having compared this and other watches available at a similar price point, well if you had the chance to buy the Seiko SJE093 and bought the Tudor instead then shame on you. Bang for the buck that's a new benchmark I think. But take the Seiko out of the equation then I think the Tudor is a compelling package and whilst it is expensive by historical Tudor standards all other watch brands are expensive by their standards.
I really like the Black Bay line and at some stage will buy another when funds allow.
Never tried one on, bit too different for me and nearly always prefer bracelets
Yes definitely still the one to have.
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Has the matching seconds hand and the smiley too.
Absolutely and it’d be boring if we all agreed mate. ☺️
Indeed it would
What reference is that Paul, Black Bay 79220N?Still one of Tudors best.....imo.
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Last edited by TaketheCannoli; 1st May 2024 at 12:34.
Yes thats the ref.
2nd time Ive owned this.My friend bought it new in 2016 and we traded soon after.He regretted that and so a year later we traded again.......I regretted letting it go back too.
There was one on SC for 3.5k, fully serviced and near mint if I recall correctly . Might be worth a look :)
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