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    What can I use to fill a relacement bezel pip?

    Okay, my plan is thus:

    1. Use one of my cat's insulin syringes to fill an empty bezel pip with a drop or two of magnolia emmulsion.
    2. Gently bake in oven at, say, 130 degrees for ten minutes.
    3. Allow to cool and than fit to bezel insert.


    Anyone know of the paint will "set" and/or if there's a better alternative?

    Edit: Whoops! See post #11
    Last edited by learningtofly; 5th January 2024 at 20:39.

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    Tony, that Tudor deserves better than magnolia emulsion, get James (Hyman, thealchemistrelumer) to make a vintage coloured lume mix for you and fill it for you.
    Then at least if someone shines a UV torch at it, it will react like lume should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Tony, that Tudor deserves better than magnolia emulsion, get James (Hyman, thealchemistrelumer) to make a vintage coloured lume mix for you and fill it for you.
    Then at least if someone shines a UV torch at it, it will react like lume should.
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    Yes, he's done a couple before for me with great success. That's the other option

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    magnolia emulsion!

    You having a laugh! Is it luminous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalic Mud View Post
    magnolia emulsion!

    You having a laugh! Is it luminous?
    I was ignoring the luminosity factor

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    I think gloss modelling paint would work better than emulsion, which I think will go grubby in no time. I'm not sure you need to bake it. Maybe leave it on a radiator for a bit. Other than that - seems like a decent plan.

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    I’m sure I have several pipless seiko bezels if you want to practise first Tony?
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    They don’t have a back of course so you would need to put some tape or suchlike to create a well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    I’m sure I have several pipless seiko bezels if you want to practise first Tony?
    That's very kind of you, Jason, but I've actually fitted quite a few before. IME they can sometimes snap into place, whist other times they need a dot or two of jewellers glue. Either way a couple of stiff drinks and I'll be fine

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    Agree that Tudor deserves better, if you’re going to do it.

    But the gap also looks great - like it’s lived a little. I’d do one or other rather than messing around with syringes and house paint ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Agree that Tudor deserves better, if you’re going to do it.

    But the gap also looks great - like it’s lived a little. I’d do one or other rather than messing around with syringes and house paint ;)
    Well, I’ve just been advised that the loose pip that came with the watch as already filled with lume (I thought it was empty, for some reason). I’ll therefore be fitting it over the weekend

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    Excellent, that watch is gonna get a ton of wrist time I reckon :)

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    Yip, as discussed mate, should be good to go as it is.

    I actually liked the no pip look more than I expected but it will look good with the pip back in.

    One of the coolest bezels I’ve ever seen.

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    I would fill it with lume! If you must go with something easier, definitely not emulsion - maybe nail varnish?

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    Got to be a matching pip fitted properly, too nice to try a cheap fix and the hole would really bug me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Yes, he's done a couple before for me with great success. That's the other option
    I’d go with James again Tony he’s a top guy .

    BTW Rolex used to fit pearls years ago , probably stopped or want fortunes nowadays or get a new insert fitted and pop it out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Well, I’ve just been advised that the loose pip that came with the watch as already filled with lume (I thought it was empty, for some reason). I’ll therefore be fitting it over the weekend
    ^^^

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    Thoughts and prayers.

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    Seems to be in here firmly enough...

    Opted not to use glue, as I didn't want to mark the insert. I think it should stay, though, as it feels very firmly installed.

    Last edited by learningtofly; 7th January 2024 at 18:00.

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    Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Well done
    Thanks. I’ll post a better shot in daylight tomorrow, as the pip actually matches the dial and hands very well.

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    What a stunning watch. Well done LTF on
    1. Buying it and
    2. Sorting the pip!

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Opted not to use glue, as I didn't want to mark the insert. I think it should stay, though, as it feels very firmly installed.


    Looks great Tony, well done

    I've often seen pearls 'fixed' in with a dab of glue / cement on the backside of the insert, I assume this is just a secondary protection in case the hole has been stretched and the replacement pearl doesn't snap in tightly. Obviously more risky to do this as needs the insert or bezel removed from the watch to be able to apply this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    What a stunning watch. Well done LTF on
    1. Buying it and
    2. Sorting the pip!
    Thanks very much. It's actually a decent match in better light...


    Quote Originally Posted by clemenry View Post
    Looks great Tony, well done

    I've often seen pearls 'fixed' in with a dab of glue / cement on the backside of the insert, I assume this is just a secondary protection in case the hole has been stretched and the replacement pearl doesn't snap in tightly. Obviously more risky to do this as needs the insert or bezel removed from the watch to be able to apply this.
    I've done a few in the past, and have quite happily removed the bezel assembly. However, I'm not sure that I needed to this time around and thought it preferable, therefore, to eliminate the additional risk. The downside is that I might find it drops out at some point in the future, in which case I'll just go through the process again but adopt the glue approach.

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    Looks fantastic, lovely addition to the new year, Tony.

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    Looks spot on. Well done.

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    I don't think it looks right at all and I'm so glad I didn't buy it (I might be fibbing slightly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    Looks fantastic, lovely addition to the new year, Tony.
    Thanks matey

    Quote Originally Posted by Slevin Kelevra View Post
    Looks spot on. Well done.
    You found a decent one, which helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by deepreddave View Post
    I don't think it looks right at all and I'm so glad I didn't buy it (I might be fibbing slightly).
    LOLZ

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    Really like that Tony - looks great.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    That's a stunner. I think, because of their "faded" colour palete, they look better when they show signs of having been used.

    If you waste enough time on Youtube, you will eventually see recommendations to mix baking powder with Superglue. It forms a kind of quick setting white plastic, which makes a stronger bond than SG on it's own IMHO. As a formable plastic, it can be used to fix all kinds of problems; the sort that beset my life anyway - lol. You can create an "industrial strength" version by powdering pencil lead (graphite) into the glue rather than baking powder.

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    Nah, looks terrible Tony.
    You need to move it on, smartish.

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    Late to this thread, and I've read a load of absolute crackpot recommendations..................

    There is only one method for this>

    Fuji-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Really like that Tony - looks great.
    Cheers Chris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gren View Post
    That's a stunner. I think, because of their "faded" colour palete, they look better when they show signs of having been used.

    If you waste enough time on Youtube, you will eventually see recommendations to mix baking powder with Superglue. It forms a kind of quick setting white plastic, which makes a stronger bond than SG on it's own IMHO. As a formable plastic, it can be used to fix all kinds of problems; the sort that beset my life anyway - lol. You can create an "industrial strength" version by powdering pencil lead (graphite) into the glue rather than baking powder.
    Agreed, and interesting. May have a poke around.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Nah, looks terrible Tony.
    You need to move it on, smartish.
    Could you look after it for me?

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    Reading this I was reminded of the Only Fools and Horses episode where Del painted the kitchen of a takeaway.

    😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by prexelor View Post
    Reading this I was reminded of the Only Fools and Horses episode where Del painted the kitchen of a takeaway.


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    A lovely addition to the collection mate, and all the better for the pip replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    A lovely addition to the collection mate, and all the better for the pip replacement.
    Thanks Jon. It does make a nice pair with the 5513, actually.

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    As someone with a pip-less bezel insert on my 5513 (preferring the look to the service insert which takes away from the graceful ageing aspect of the watch) I am now intrigued by the prospect of obtaining and filling a pip to fit as a close match to the cream lume.

    I saw the recommendation on having a pip filled, but anyone got a reputable source for the plastic pips - I admit to my ignorance not even knowing they were filled with something and not a solid component.

    Thanks

    Ant

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    https://www.glow-on.com/

    I use this on gun sights, if you want something that glows in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
    https://www.glow-on.com/

    I use this on gun sights, if you want something that glows in the dark.
    Hi, how do you buy this in the UK? I can only see USA in the drop down location box?

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