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    If the original receipt is pleasing to find with a vintage watch...

    ...what are collectors of the future going to make of these strips of shiny toilet paper, found inside the box of a Rolex that came from TWOSG shops ?



    These are not even four years old, but "evidence" the sale of a near-£10,000 watch.

    Thermal EPOS receipts. Yuck. It's as if they are designed to self-destruct within the warranty period.

    How are forum members supposed to know how much their investment has appreciated ? [ joke ! ]
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 2nd October 2023 at 16:39.

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    A receipt/bill of sale written in copperplate would be more appropriate for something of such value, in my humble opinion.

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    Who keeps a watch for as long as 4 years?

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    My Goldsmiths receipts have done exactly that and it’s only been three years.

    Why Goldsmiths choose not to email receipts as other jewellers do is beyond me.


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    It's nuts. A quick Google does have some solutions as to how to restore them, but frankly the fact you even need to, is madness.

    I bought a non-expensive item of jewelry from a family-run jewelers and the receipt was handwritten in ballpoint, in beautiful handwriting. That's how it should be, IMHO.

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    Why anyone puts even the value of a penny on a sheet of paper is beyond me. Hoarding bulky boxes and sheets of paper is a real eccentricity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Why anyone puts even the value of a penny on a sheet of paper is beyond me. Hoarding bulky boxes and sheets of paper is a real eccentricity.
    I must be an eccentric then. I’ll admit to scanning receipts such as the Epos thermal paper variety and saving as a pdf just in case they’re ever required.

    I’ll get me coat and shut the door on my way out ;-)


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    Never realised this,bought a watch from Golsmiths today.Taken a picture of the receipt so with a bit of luck it can be printed out later.

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    I always take plenty of photos of the complete set with receipts etc for insurance etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptime View Post
    When I receive a new watch, I always take plenty of photos of the complete set with receipts etc for insurance. The photos are quite handy for when the receipts fade too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Why anyone puts even the value of a penny on a sheet of paper is beyond me. Hoarding bulky boxes and sheets of paper is a real eccentricity.
    Spoken like a man with no books!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Spoken like a man with no books!
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    I remember buying my Tag Heuer F1 in 1997 from David Marsden and getting a hand written receipt with the model number hand written on. Got a similar hand written receipt for my first Panerai too in 2004 from Berry's and my first Rolex 16710 from John Dyson, Leeds. I remember Blowers used to post you out a lovely printed watch valuation receipt the week after you'd bought from them.

    Its a nice personal touch that is lost today. Such a shame.
    Last edited by paneristi372; 2nd October 2023 at 22:16.

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    I’ve been lucky to have access to some decent independent dealers. Both still do the old school handwritten receipt to compliment the till roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    My Goldsmiths receipts have done exactly that and it’s only been three years.

    Why Goldsmiths choose not to email receipts as other jewellers do is beyond me.


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    They have always sent me copies of the receipt by email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Spoken like a man with no books!
    In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Spoken like a man with no books!
    Ok if you want to fret over papers, then do so. If you are really really stupid you can pay over the odds for a full set on the second hand market, if that is not stupidity personified, then I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Ok if you want to fret over papers, then do so. If you are really really stupid you can pay over the odds for a full set on the second hand market, if that is not stupidity personified, then I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Ok if you want to fret over papers, then do so. If you are really really stupid you can pay over the odds for a full set on the second hand market, if that is not stupidity personified, then I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Ok if you want to fret over papers, then do so. If you are really really stupid you can pay over the odds for a full set on the second hand market, if that is not stupidity personified, then I don't know what is.
    One can question the logic of perceived value, but shouting at the market seems closer to madness than working within it.

    I have bought a small number of Rolexes and often paid a significant premium for those having papers.

    As I now come to sell a few, just how badly will I have done and how stupid was I ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    One can question the logic of perceived value, but shouting at the market seems closer to madness than working within it.

    I have bought a small number of Rolexes and often paid a significant premium for those having papers.

    As I now come to sell a few, just how badly will I have done and how stupid was I ?
    Yes I have to agree with you, the market dictates that we wear old unpolished watches which looks stupid and we pay well over the odds for a bit of old paper. Only a WIS could willingly walk into that scenario but they do.

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    Don't discard your Aldi reciepts too easily.(There are other reciepts available).
    Leave them in a full sun lit room to age them beyond any recognition and add it to your next Rolex sale to make that full set that some like!!.
    Last edited by P9CLY; 3rd October 2023 at 12:18.


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    Adding to the lunacy...anyone see the problem here ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Adding to the lunacy...anyone see the problem here ?

    oops, different addresses

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODP View Post
    oops, different addresses
    One is registered address, one the store address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODP View Post
    oops, different addresses
    Oops, also wrong price for November 2020. The 114060 was £6,300 at that time.

    The receipt is fake.

    It accompanied a fake watch bearing the corresponding case number, which would have fooled many.

    The watch was also accompanied by a fake warranty card . . . and someone in the trade trying to find another patsy onto whom they could unload it.

    "Bad luck, buttercup."

    Plenty of bad guys seem to have been sourcing these fake EPOS receipts.

    Shout out to the Eastern Europeans, Florin Filip and Andreas Paunescu, Cardiff scumbag Layton Spinks a.k.a. Alan Whatley / Whatlee, etc.
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 3rd October 2023 at 13:35.

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    That would have fooled me

    Is that watch still in circulation or has it been impounded?

    Scary stuff for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    That would have fooled me

    Is that watch still in circulation or has it been impounded?

    Scary stuff for sure

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    Still in circulation, unless a sap has been found by the employee of [ nameless "buy-back" business ] who had it.

    Sometimes I am in a position to retain a watch, sometimes not.

    Sometimes a watch may be found with the word "FAKE !" scrawled inside the case-back...
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 3rd October 2023 at 13:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    That would have fooled me

    Is that watch still in circulation or has it been impounded?

    Scary stuff for sure

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    Back in the days when I had to deal with forged security print, no one in the print trade could tell the difference between real and fake. It's dirt cheap to buy fake documents and it can add thousands to the price of a watch and yet people still continue paying the premium.

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