I'm not a great fan of the abbreviation, but the attempted "land-grab" is interesting :
https://www.thefashionlaw.com/tradem...use-of-milsub/
Gratuitous image of a milsub :
Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 14th September 2023 at 11:02.
A gratuitous photo of another milsubTLDR: “Rolex’s attempt to assert rights in the term MilSub fails because no one, not Rolex and not the public, has ever used the term MilSub to identify a currently available watch sold by Rolex. With no trade, ever, under the term MilSub, Rolex cannot assert rights in the term.”*
Another gratuitous shot of a Milsub.
I can't see why Rolex tried to do this.
Yes, it was a name in common parlance prior to the (3rd party) attempt to register it, often (but not always) referring to Rolexes, but Milsub was never a Rolex-generated phrase, and never really used by them to refer to any products.
Seems like the right decision.
No gratuitous pics here
No gratuitous pics either, but thanks Haywood for posting the piece.
Not the first time that Rolex have tried it on, but when you think about it the ruling makes perfect sense: the company never offered Milsubs for retail when new, and I bet one has never come through their eye-wateringly priced pre-owned range, so they can’not sustain a claim of trademark violation.
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Last edited by NickRed71; 14th September 2023 at 21:37.
It must boil Rolex lawyers piss that they can't go after Pepsi, Starbucks, Kermit, Tiffany, Hulk and Batman.
Not to mention the Smurfs.
Pales into insignificance in respect of temperature of my pi$$ and the so called the 'Rolex names'.Originally Posted by chrisparker
Last edited by Chris_in_the_UK; 16th September 2023 at 16:06.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Not to mention Batgirl. lol
The findings of the US Court contain extensive and interesting content, not least revealing the extent of monitoring that Rolex or their agents undertake but also references to many individuals and companies familiar to this community, and apparent confirmation of "the milsub story" as we know it. I also see "recycled" information that many of us would now consider should be updated / corrected :
https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?...pty=CAN&eno=57
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A gratuitous photo of another milsub
Slightly related I think:
I was reading a book about tax today and one of the many interesting things it includes is that Harley Davidson once tried to patent the sound of their bikes.
Some weekend you’re having
It must be hard to patent a sound that signifies "low performance"...
The IP lawyer described it as making the sound “potato, potato, potato…”
I have to admit my Road Kings makes this noise.
I’ve had worse..
Includes how I can save tax by buying a super yacht, avoid stamp duty by buying the company that owns the property (Tony Blair), how partnerships agree to have irreconcilable differences to dissolve the company in order to avoid tax, etc.
Also, includes an explanation of how the tax avoidance by being a partner in a film production company. Hmm..
Last edited by joe narvey; 19th September 2023 at 11:29.
Hadn’t heard of the divorce one before but I think film investment is what did Beckham and maybe Jimmy Carr over a few years ago.
Wonder how it will apply one day to people with vast BTL portfolios in ltd companies.
Funny how all the ire and legislating around landlords mainly affects small time landlords and those using property as a retirement strategy, while corporates and the workarounds/loopholes they use are completely ignored.
Initially, I wondered what was wrong with your head. A second look made me realise it's your knee (I hope)!
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Jim.
Correct. Sat in the Sun relaxing after a game of golf in 36 degrees, a beer and a book about tax. Life is good.
Interesting, a well-to-do investment banker friend was in Cannes a few years ago, as he was a random investor / partner. Now becomes clear!
Last edited by M4tt; 21st September 2023 at 18:22.
Slightly related, but (maybe just in the US) Tudor have TM’d snowflake hands (the shape, not the name) and sent a C&D to at least one microbrand that uses them.
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