Reply With QuoteI don't have an interest in watches as investments, thanks though.
According to Oracle Time
https://oracleoftime.com/best-microb...8e2c-130671182
Hopefully the link works
Andy
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I don't have an interest in watches as investments, thanks though.
Sadly you're probably in the minority these days.Originally Posted by Passenger
Truth.
Even as a noob I can see the 'investment' mindset is sucking the life right out of the hobby.
5k uplift on a CW!
Who is mad enough to do that?
In that case he's in a minority of at least 2, along with me.
F.T.F.A.
Make that 3.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
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Are these prices serious? Dont mean to sound harsh but these are basically 8 unremarkable micro brands some of which have been around for years. Is this something that stuck from lockdown where people couldnt go out so just bought pretty much anything online? The Baltic one was purchased by a few on here and the reviews of the dial suggested they are pretty unremarkable, Anordain were selling off the shelf a couple of years ago and the small cased ones were just over a grand. Unimatic are now selling double the price pre-owned, where? Who on earth is buying this stuff. The first one, yes an interesting dial but its basically a Seagull you can get dozens of Seagull movement watches for £150 - £200 on ebay
Where on earth are they getting their used pricing from?
It's just a matter of time...
I’d happily have any of these at the right price ,but I’m not sure I’d spend more than 2k on any micro brand
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The ability to support, service, repair their products is a real issue. The vast majority of micro brands are a punt or a bit of fun. Yes you will get a great looking well made (some of the time) watch but there are plenty of horror stores out there regarding warranty work and the inability of getting it done when it all goes wrong.
Until they solve this there will always be a limit to what people are willing to spend on a micro brand watch. It becomes even more of an issue used.
As an investment option, the article reads as a puff / click piece because the usual suspects are a little more volatile than they were a year ago and they have nothing else to write about.
If you are looking at making £40 on a watch as worthwhile investment you might want to look at other options - a fruit machine for example.
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After reading that I think I know what made me lose interest in watches ten years ago.
Maybe throwing dice or a crystal ball.
Sigh……watches as investments again……if you want investments read the FT or whatever for goodness sake!
If anyone buys a microbrand watch and hasn't either assumed they'll keep it for the foreseeable or will lose half their capital, they are, at best, mistaken.
Need some evidence? Check the tungsten diver on SC.
I love niche, differentiated watches and am happy to accept that going off piste probably means it's not an investment.
Agreed. Make that 6
“ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG
As much as I love my anOrdain, I'd probably sell it for £8k! Though it is unique so knowing I couldn't replace it even with a 2yr wait does make that decision harder.
The Bel Canto is a tremendous watch, and An Ordain has enamelling expertise, but that uplift is nowhere near. I wouldn’t call them microbrands either.
The whole idea of investment has caused all kinds of trouble in this “hobby”, although for true microbrands my advice would be to enjoy the fun you get and regard them as disposable. I was lucky to get nearly all my money back on two Unimatics I owned and I’m hoping to have learnt a lesson about not buying any more of this type of watch
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Indeed. This headline of the article annoys the sh!t out of me.
Come on, fellas. The article is online journalism. Most journalism is rubbish, online journalism is silly rubbish.
This article was very probably written in in the author's bedroom. He's a teenager, trying to get a job.
Michael Sonsino
As Junior Content Producer for Oracle Time, Michael needs an eye for detail, which makes it a good thing that his twin joys in life are miniatures and watches. While a relative newcomer to the magazine, he's nonetheless a lifelong fan of fine timepieces, especially those of a more historic nature - if it has a twist of Art Deco, all the better.
A teenager who plays Warhammer. Or at least that is what 'minatures' is usually a euphemism for. Mind you, I'm always happy to have the competition reduced by removing the stupid and gullible when looking for decent watches.
It’s exactly these sort of articles that are perpetuating the issue and killing the hobby.
I am pretty sure nobody ever got a girlfriend by saying they are interested in ‘miniatures’ or watches.
I'll be bet there are a lot of men that have a girlfriend (or wife) and who also play Warhammer. Not a lot different to those men who have games nights with an Xbox or Playstation and their mates, with the other half 'tolerating' it.
It's possible money changed hands in the writing of this article.
Still, if you ignore the Chrono24++ used prices there's some nice looking watches there.
With CAD and Chinese manufacturing it's never been easier or cheaper to design and make a watch; the days of Kemmner / Fricker cases and ETA movements are long gone.
Just look at completed auctions on eBay.... the prices in the article are reflective of the recent sales.
My guess is thats all the author of that article has done to give those prices. Just because one or two watches have sold way overprices does not mean thats what you are going to get though or thats what they are worth. Its a bit like when you see Steinhart watches on ebay getting sold over retail price when you can just order online from their online store or chronomaster at the correct price.
I remember getting a Kemmner marine watch for about £300. Unitas hand wind movement, Roman numeral dial if I remember correctly......
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